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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:32 PM
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Albright Worries Bush Fuels Hate for U.S.
NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) - Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said Tuesday that she is concerned President Bush is fueling the hate of terrorist organizations.

She told a crowd at the Yale Divinity School that her worries are in response to the president suggesting that ``Americans have a unique relationship with God or a better understanding of God's will than worshippers from other cultures and lands.''

``From the beginning, the president has made it clear that we are at war with the terrorists and not with Islam. That is to his credit,'' Albright said.

``(But) it surely doesn't help when the American military official with responsibility for intelligence on al-Qaida claims that 'We are in the Army of God' and that George Bush was 'appointed by God,''' she said. The comments were made by Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3922489,00.html
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:41 PM
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1. Mrs. Albright
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 11:43 PM by Dirk39
who supposed that it's o.k. to kill about 1 million children in Iraq to get rid of Saddam and bring peace, democrazy, freedom and all those other lies to Iraq? She worries? If she wants to do any good for the USA, she should commit suicide and shut her mouth forever. I can't believe that she dares to make a statement like this. Compared to her, Bush is a nice guy, although he's too soft and pacifistic.
Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:43 PM
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2. She supposedly recannted that 60 minutes remark
n/t
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:45 PM
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3. After the children were dead...
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 11:50 PM by Dirk39
she recannted that remark? I'm impressed. These democratic whores are worse than Bush. I really can't believe that. Clinton and Albright are responsible for so much more completely unneccessary and innocent murdered Iraqis than Bush. Just do it the nice kind of way. You don't even need a war.

Dirk
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 12:43 AM
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7. What is worse--
largely without the same sort of opposition and world resistance that the ShortBush gangs have generated.

It is ironic that Ms. "we think the price is worth it" is worried about the self-appointed replacements "generating hate".
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:51 PM
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4. So Dirk...
does this mean that you agree Bush was appointed by God or not?
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:56 PM
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6. No, not at all...
but I prefer to get raped with a fist in my face rather than with a rhetoric flower. And the DLC democrats are even more cynical than Bush. I don't care for Kerry against Bush at all. Why is Albright still allowed to be a member of the democratic party instead of sitting in prison? If I can chose between a narcistic idiot like Clinton, who decides to bomb other countries to stop americans from talking about his beloved dick and Bush, I don't vote anymore. I just pray to get rid of all of them.
Dirk
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:56 PM
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5. Hi. Unfortunately, everything has become political here in the empire.
3,000 people died on 9/11, 2 and a half years ago, and the incident seems to be nothing more now than a political football to be kicked around by the White House, the Hill, CNN, MSNBC, Faux News, et al.

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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 01:00 AM
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9. Yes, Screw the victims of 911, killing the messenger is much
more important than learning what went wrong in order to prevent it from happening again.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 12:57 AM
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8. Albright is as guilty of crimes against humanity as Bush and Saddam.
Albright better engage in some self-criticism first! Albright did not care about the million of Iraqi children that died due to the US sanctions on Iraq. Albright is as guilty of crimes against humanity as Bush and Saddam, as the following article demonstrates:

Squeezed to death

Half a million children have died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed - most enthusiastically by Britain and the US. Three UN officials have resigned in despair. Meanwhile, bombing of Iraq continues almost daily. John Pilger investigates

Saturday March 4, 2000


In Washington, I interviewed James Rubin, an under secretary of state who speaks for Madeleine Albright. When asked on US television if she thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it." When I questioned Rubin about this, he claimed Albright's words were taken out of context. He then questioned the "methodology" of a report by the UN's World Health Organisation, which had estimated half a million deaths. Advising me against being "too idealistic", he said: "In making policy, one has to choose between two bad choices . . . and unfortunately the effect of sanctions has been more than we would have hoped." He referred me to the "real world" where "real choices have to be made". In mitigation, he said, "Our sense is that prior to sanctions, there was serious poverty and health problems in Iraq." The opposite was true, as Unicef's data on Iraq before 1990, makes clear.

The irony is that the US helped bring Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq, and that the US (and Britain) in the 1980s conspired to break their own laws in order, in the words of a Congressional inquiry, to "secretly court Saddam Hussein with reckless abandon", giving him almost everything he wanted, including the means of making biological weapons. Rubin failed to see the irony in the US supplying Saddam with seed stock for anthrax and botulism, that he could use in weapons, and claimed that the Maryland company responsible was prosecuted. It was not: the company was given Commerce Department approval.

Denial is easy, for Iraqis are a nation of unpeople in the West, their panoramic suffering of minimal media interest; and when they are news, care is always taken to minimise Western culpability. I can think of no other human rights issue about which the governments have been allowed to sustain such deception and tell so many bare-faced lies. Western governments have had a gift in the "butcher of Baghdad", who can be safely blamed for everything. Unlike the be-headers of Saudi Arabia, the torturers of Turkey and the prince of mass murderers, Suharto, only Saddam Hussein is so loathsome that his captive population can be punished for his crimes. British obsequiousness to Washington's designs over Iraq has a certain craven quality, as the Blair government pursues what Simon Jenkins calls a "low-cost, low-risk machismo, doing something relatively easy, but obscenely cruel". The statements of Tony Blair and Robin Cook and assorted sidekick ministers would, in other circumstances, be laughable. Cook: "We must nail the absurd claim that sanctions are responsible for the suffering of the Iraqi people", Cook: "We must uphold the sanctity of international law and the United Nations . . ." ad nauseam. The British boast about their "initiative" in promoting the latest Security Council resolution, which merely offers the prospect of more Kafkaesque semantics and prevarication in the guise of a "solution" and changes nothing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,232986,00.html

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 03:11 AM
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10. Yes, it was a terrible thing, no question.
But wasn't the situation really set up by Bush 1 and his DS1? Isn't that where the real responsibility lies? I can imagine the support Clinton would have gotten from the Republican Party if he had unilaterally ended the UN-sanctioned embargo. Democrats would be the party of "Saddam appeasers". I suspect that we'd be in the second term of Bob Dole now....perhaps a better scenario, in retrospect.

Amazing...Republicans create the mess and set up the policy, but Democrats are blamed for the results.
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