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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 03:52 PM Original message |
Social Security Officials Tell Hill: No Cost-Of-Living Raise This Year For Seniors |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. But we've got money for wars and outsourcing. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. There's a formula for this |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. i have. not too much on food |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 03:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Food has gone up in Massachusetts. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. Really? I'm not seeing it |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Oh no, the prices haven't gone up. They just decrease the amount |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
73. Looks like the Shrink Ray has hit packages. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. What does a formua have to do with Reply 1? |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Formulas are used to calculate cost of living and raises that are in line with COLA. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. The government's "standardized formula" is bullshit! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
96. The government inflation index |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Do you under stand COLA means "cost of living adjustment"? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. See post #3 |
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toppertwot (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. THE GOVERNMENT LIES |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. If th inflation rate was 7.5%, there would be absolutely no market for |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
59. LOL! Because buying bonds has a direct relation to living at subsistence level. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. That is not my claim |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 03:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. The cost of living is not flat. Read this thread. As you know, |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
71. I don't think a lot of people understand that it's a cut and dried formulaic thing. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. True - and that mindset leads them away from addressing the problem constructively |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Corporations can steal lie and cheat and get bonuses on |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Seen nothing yet. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Informed seniors know this was coming. It was announced..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. And? Did knowing sooner make food or heating fuel more affordable for them? |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. HMO Medical supplements on Medicare have increased 50%. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. What portion of a person's expenditures are they? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 03:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Shameful. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
76. Shameful to suggest that real back up is needed before claiming things backed by hot air? |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
72. That's odd. My dad's Medicare expenses have not gone up. nt |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. Rumor has it a $250 shot to SS recipients instead....That would |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. To someone on Disability, that means a lot... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. i'll be happy with that. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
55. You forgot the sarcasm emote. Anyway, supermarket cashiers don't accept rumors as payment. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's two years in a row. No cost of living increase? lol |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Why do you need a COLA during a deflationary period? |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Really? |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Yes, food and fuel ARE included... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
60. Please see Reply 50. People living at subsistence level are not |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. You have a habit of swooping in to discussions after everyone has moved on... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
131. Are you comparing to 2008 prices, or last year? |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Publix didn't get the memo...n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. neither did Kroger, albertson's and safeway. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
85. Prices have been going up continuously in all the grocery stores in my town. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. then you have not been out shopping. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. have you ever gone to a grocery store? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Average inflation over the past 12 months is at 1.4%. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
62. "Average" being key--and no help to someone eating cat food in a slum. See Replies 50 and 60. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
78. In case you can't tell, I was making the case that there should... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
91. Are SS recipients eating cat foods in slums? NT |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Love your humor. Now |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
92. OK, the price of what has gone up in the past year? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Baloney. |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Baloney has gone Up? Switch to Turkey Bologna |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
93. Baloney is cheaper in my local supermarket than last year |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Self Delete. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
87. "Prices for things haven't been going up." |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Well, once you're done laughing, you can tell me what prices have gone up |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
130. ???? |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. Now if they would have capped |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. See #29 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
66. No. Increase in health costs for the whole population is theoretically included. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
68. See Replies 50, 60 and 62. And, remember, OASDI is for disabled folk, too. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. sick |
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Lindsay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. Food costs are up. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. Thanks for mentioning electric and energy costs being up |
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Paper Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yes, I knew there would be no COLA but I'll be darned if I accept |
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Travis_0004 (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Congress will not be getting a pay raise |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
63. Bingo. No switch to a cheaper brand of cat food will result. |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. This sucks |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. do you have info on what you said about reviewing supplemental plans? |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
88. Open enrollment starts sometime in October |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. SS Commissioner Michael Astrue - Bush appointee |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Is that "Astrue" or "TrueAss"? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. You say "po-Tay-to", I say "po-Tah-to"... |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Oh, great... Banksters give themselves mega-bonuses... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
64. Why? Republicans don't have a rep for favoring OASDI increases. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #64 |
79. Why what? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
82. Why is he still in that position? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Social Security Commissioners serve 6 year terms. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. That will be two years in a row seniors didn't get a $250 yearly |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. 2 yrs. in a row is not FAIR - get the money from the pentagon |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I said last year there would be no COLA this year, now I think there will not be any ever. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Dixiegrrrrl, I see what you mean |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
54. I fear you're right. n/t |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. I Can Live With This, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Please see Replies 50 and 60. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yeah ! Those seniors have it too soft !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. And what will Seniors say in reply? Individually, that is... 'cause they're not united in any way ! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. And you know what that means. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. Two weeks before the election - great timing! Of course the repugs |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. "...a rationale that unsurprisingly placates roughly zero beneficiaries." |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. You mean 3 years ago. Please see Reply 62. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
58. While almost everything has gone up in costs. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
69. if they really do this to seniors I will hate . . . . . . |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. The cola has nothing to do with them. They don't get a raise either. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. This is a FREEZE ... not a question of whether it should be paid or not --- |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
123. Congress's automatic pay raises have stopped |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. I'm a disabled vet - and I believe that the same formula is used, |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
94. I'll just tell my town that the real estate tax on my condo is not getting |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
95. do Congressmen get a COLA in 2011?? |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. No, they already voted against it last May. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
97. Weren't Social Security COLAS always PAID during Bush years ... ???? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. There was inflation during the Bush years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Baloney ... any dollar you had pre-Bush is now worth 50 cents/60 cents at most!! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. That's what I said: there was inflation during the Bush years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. The FREEZE is political ... not based on any inflationary index .... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Where are you getting that fantasy? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Your "fantasy" is based on believing that the GOP hasn't "cooked the books" over decades??? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. How precisely did they "cook the books"? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Do you recall the GOP being in control of Congress over decades...??? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I remember them controlling Congress for most of 12 years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Try watching C-span -- and listen to the debates and the ways things are done .... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. I was a Congressional staffer for a few of those years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Okay ... I think we're |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. WHO and WHEN |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. CONGRESS ..... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Btw .... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. No thanks, been stalked here once already |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Right ... clearly .... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I asked "who and when?" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. CONGRESS .... |
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Mefistofeles (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
100. Great way to get out the vote |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. And the Democratic leadership wonders why the RepubliCONS |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
101. I fear this foreshadows a third year of no COLA from my employer as well. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. ALL salaries have to be tied to COLA's as government salaries are .... |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. That's where some of that fucking "stimulus" money should have gone. (NT) |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Obama and Rahm were busy making sure that the "stimulus" benefitted business ... see here... |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. Thank you for this. This is exactly why although |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. We're all disgusted with Obama and his pro-corporate agenda .... |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Amen to everything you said. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
116. I don't think the Seniors are going to believe Social Security |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
129. But what's the Seniors' response on all of this .... ??? I don't see any response ...!!! |
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