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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:16 PM
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Willie Nelson charged with pot possession in Texas
Source: AP

SIERRA BLANCA, Texas (AP) — A U.S. Border Patrol spokesman says country singer Willie Nelson was charged with marijuana possession after 6 ounces was found aboard his tour bus in Texas.

Patrol spokesman Bill Brooks says the bus pulled into the Sierra Blanca, Texas, checkpoint about 9 a.m. Friday. Brooks says an officer smelled pot when a door was opened and a search turned up marijuana.

Brooks says the Hudspeth County sheriff was contacted and Nelson was among three people arrested.

Sheriff Arvin West didn't immediately return a phone message left at his home Friday, but he told the El Paso Times that Nelson claimed the marijuana was his. The singer was held briefly a $2,500 bond before being released.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:17 PM
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1. Sigh
this shit needs to end.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:55 AM
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88. Hands off my Willie!
nt
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #88
112. sorry sasquuatch, we gotta sent him back to MEXICO, that's the way we roll in texASS
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:56 PM
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124. Willie gets busted pretty regular and nothing happens. My favorite bust story is how they found poot
ie's stash after the funeral on the bus and nobody even knew it was there. Trust me, this is a big joke here in Texas. Most jurisdictions leave him alone and some of those coppers get in trouble for popping one of Willie's buses. We just light up another and laugh like hell. If Willie ain't worried, neither are we.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:14 PM
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128. That's so wonderful that the famous and well off Willie gets
what amounts to a free pass while tens of thousands of us common folk have our lives all but destroyed when we get caught with just a joint. In VA 6 oz would be a felony punishable by 5 to 40 years with a 5 mandatory (possibly suspended), 1 year loss of license even if you were nowhere near a car, SR-22 high risk auto insurance for 4 to 7 years even if you were nowhere near a car, 1000's in fines, a required DNA sample to be filed with the state, and indefinite probation with random urine/blood test tests.

Glad this is just gonna be another 10 minutes of fame for Willie.

Families and lives are destroyed over our insane pot laws in this country every day and should not be taken lightly.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #128
129. I have given up hope for rational pot laws.
The CA referendum showed me the power of the vested interests that need to keep it illegal.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #129
136. Ironicaly pot growers went against it. Shows you how fast we can become them. If there hadn't been a
teabagger/conservative/libertarian back-lash oddball voter turnout, that national the drop in 25 and younger number of voters since the President's election, it would have passed.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #128
130. Lighten up, ace. The assholes in VA ain't Willie's fault. And the fact is if he got caught in Travis
county where he lives its not even a slap on the wrist, step accross into Williamson county and its a whole other nightmare. Do what Willie did, join NORML. Norml lawyers will get you a conclusion more like Willies.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #130
133. I will not lighten up.
I'm sick and tired of the double standard applied to our "stars".

Maybe if the stars were finally prosecuted like the commoners we could get some change to these barbaric, pointless laws.

Friends and family have had lawyers that were members of NORML etc. They were still just as fucked when the verdict came down.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:24 PM
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134. I respectfully think you are over wrought over this. My experience has been more positive. Have a
nice day, I'll leave this thread to you.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #128
145. My buddy got busted with 3 ounces, broken up in Allen TX
Got 18 months probation, a fine, and had to take some stupid classes..(and of course piss test)

I've had cops dump out my dugout on the ground and give me a misdemeanor drug paraphernalia ticket...

Guess it just depends...a lot of cops think it's a waste of their time

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:24 PM
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116. You've got that right... The whole fucking Corporate States of Amerika
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 01:24 PM by ProudDad
and the National Security State for the benefit of the corporate capitalist masters MUST END...

And it is...

The Ponzi-Scheme capitalist "economy" is collapsing under its own weight and thanks to resource overshoot the loss of food production due to Catastrophic Global Climate Destabilization will be killing off millions.

While the stupid fucking empire busts potheads and migrant workers...
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:19 PM
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2. "Resistance is futile" So say the Borg
But I'm proud some still can keep on tryin!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:20 PM
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3. I am shocked, Willie Nelson smokes pot who would have
ever dreamed.:sarcasm:
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SourFlower Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:37 AM
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60. He smokes pot? Is water wet?!!! nt
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #3
76. My guess is if they busted him with 6 oz of Pot, either they are not doing their job well enough
or they found a whole lot more and let him off easy.
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #76
98. Or, they found a whole lot more pot..
...and kept it!
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #3
81. It's not like law enforcement had probable cause or anything
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #3
147. And the Pope has a Crucifix, really. nt
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:20 PM
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4. Ya gotta hand it to him----he never quits.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
30. And,
here is the ultimate irony: Mr. Nelson continues to lead a productive and philanthropic life, and has done so for quite a number of decades, 'despite' his regular use of marijuana. All the sheeple who are opposed to legalizing marijuana can recite in unison the 'reasons' it should remain illegal, but they seldom know why it was made illegal in the first place. It was all about money then, and it is all about money now. Law enforcement, politicians, and bankers make a ton of money on 'illegal drugs,' and that fact alone is a strong motivator to continue feeding propaganda to the sheeple, and busting an iconic pothead just because they can.
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rtassi Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #30
55. +1
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:26 AM
Response to Reply #30
73. Absolutely spot on!
Willie is another icon like Johnny Cash - who empathizes with the downtrodden. That alone is enough to make him a target.

I've seen Willie live at concerts, one outdoors in the rain where, after he had finished his contracted program, he told the audience, "So long as y'all're willin' to stand out there, I'm willin' to sing." And sing he did! We all stayed until the park officials finally closed down the concert. It was REALLY coming down by then.

Long may he smoke pot! If it was legal, we might actually have a "kinder, gentler nation." We would certainly be more mellow.

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ezmerelda39 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #73
115. Just imagine
everyone at a Tea Party Demonstration a little, no, a lot high. The Tea Party is way too 'up tight.' They need to chill out, relax a little. They might even be okay people if they would lighten up a bit, maybe even be more reasonable.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:02 AM
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80. 1
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Perfect Ten Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #30
82. +1
K&R
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #30
91. Well said.
:toast:
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #30
127. Don't forget racism
Pot was also made a felony to deport Mexicans and arrest blacks like Louis Armstrong.

The other side of prohibition was the depression. Can't have them minorities taking our jobs now, can we?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:21 PM
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5. Alas, poor Willie.
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 10:21 PM by Jackpine Radical
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:25 PM
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6. How many people were on that bus?
:party:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:27 PM
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7. Personal consumption..it keeps him going.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:29 PM
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8. If Texas overreacts, the public outcry will be good for the Federal legalization cause.
Always looking for a silver lining.

Good luck Willie
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:06 PM
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23. I hope they don't make a martyr out of ol' Willie
As much as I want marijuana legalized, nobody should have to suffer for this cause. There have been way too many pointless arrests and life-altering jail terms for a simple weed. I hope Willie gets off lightly.
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #23
101. On the other hand...
This is a cause Willie might LIKE being a martyr for.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #101
139. In that case, I say GO FOR IT, WILLIE!!!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:29 PM
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9. and in other news... the sky is blue
but I guess the police made a little money off the whole ordeal.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:30 PM
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10. He SHOULDN'T smoke it! It will impair his ability to be a contributing member of society.
Oh, wait...

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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. He had to quit smoking cigarettes when his lung collapsed.
Last I read he runs 10 miles a day. Big Willie fan here.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Even a health conscious person needs some limits.
:smoke:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #10
108. Hopefully, he is vaporizing it.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:37 PM
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11. Isn't searching his bus or vehicle a semi-annual law enforcement event?
I would think the old-timer law enforcement officers would laugh and say, "Sure, yeah, brilliant."
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:40 PM
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12. FREE WILLILE!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:42 PM
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13. Maybe if he stopped driving around in a big bus that says "Willie Nelson" on it... n/t
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:03 AM
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103. Made me laugh.
It's kind of like riding around in a bus that says "FREE POT FOR ALL COPS!"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:46 PM
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14. FREE WILLIE!!!
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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:49 PM
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15. GODDAMMIT! Leave the man alone!
He isn't hurting anyone, quite the contrary.
Texas... (said with a sneer)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:55 PM
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17. He wasn't even driving!
Even if pot isn't legalized, they should have government-sanctioned pot-busses where you can sit in the back and get baked while someone else drives you from Sonic Drive-Thru to White Castle.


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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #17
31. MMMmmmmmmm....
White Castle....
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #31
125. MMMMM..... Migas, chimichangas, carnitas, Blue Moon, ... 'nother doobie .... MMMMMMM!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:52 PM
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16. Jesus, it would be news if he didn't have it

What made the police think it was his?

Surely there were a bunch of people on that bus.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. He admitted it, or should I say he claimed it as his own.
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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #26
51. He was the Captain of that ship
of course it was his. It was his duty, and I'm sure he would've taken responsibility even if it wasn't his.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #16
102. i'm sure he's a bigger person than to let a roadie take the rap.
besides, the headline wouldn't read as well.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:56 PM
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18. Where Homeland Security got Willie:

Sierra Blanca Immigration Checkpoint
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:50 AM
Response to Reply #18
72. It wasn't the brightest thing in the world, tokin' when they pulled up to that checkpoint.
I don't think I've ever been so stoned I wouldn't have known better. But then again I've never smoked Willie Nelson.

video: I'll never smoke weed with Willie again
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:00 PM
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20. Maybe our President will...
...oh wait...nevermind...


President Used Marijuana but Mocks & Dismisses Legalization
A former marijuana user; Obama says there will be no quarter for the herb under his reign.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march282009/obama_legalize_3-28-09.php

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #20
94. What a HYPOCRITE!
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Jello Biafra Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:01 PM
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21. Don't tell me...
Sarah Palin thinks that Willie should be deported as a result.....
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #21
36. To our ally North Korea.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #21
37. I don't think Palin is an anti-drug fanatic.
At least she hasn't said anything public that I or anyone else can recall.

Now, Obama & Biden, they would gladly bankrupt Mr. Nelson and put him in jail until he dies of old age for his use/posession of cannabis.

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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #37
58. delete
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 02:01 AM by GaltFreeDiet
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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #37
66. the higher the electorate
the closer she comes to the republican nomination.
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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #37
67. the higher the electorate
the closer she comes to the republican nomination.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:54 AM
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65. Sarah is one to talk now that a 3rd child turn out to smoke pot
We knew the oldest 2 were into drug and now Willow is going down the same path.

Now normally I wouldn't give a rat's ass about these thing but Palin is such a fricking hypocrite
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:03 PM
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22. I thought this was a joke ( I mean a real joke, not the joke it really is)
what a fucking stupid law.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:09 PM
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25. border patrol check points
assessing your citizenship credentials 20 miles INTO the US. yes 20 miles from the border

that is the other part to this ridiculous story

pot should be legal and you should be able to travel freely with out passing through federal police checkpoints. wonder when they will be adopting TSA search standards? they already x-ray your car coming across.
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cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:56 PM
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40. Military Checkpoints are numerous in the Southwest
- OK, Boarder Patrol Checkpoints.

In a recent five day trip I made from San Diego to southern Arizona I went through almost twenty of these checkpoints. That is far more than there used to be. Plus I was frequently followed by the Boarder Patrol. It got very old.

Of course this wouldn't be necessary if they instead went after the rich folks who hired the illegal immigrants.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:12 PM
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27. I wonder if they'll make an example out of him the way the did to Tommy Chong...
Legalize it already damn it!
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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:53 AM
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56. I have a feeling...
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 01:21 AM by GaltFreeDiet
that they don't want to make a martyr out of him.
Tommy Chong has a niche audience (I met him and his wife a while back, nice people, and he autographed some par... OK! I may be partially responsible! No joke!) while Willie has a seriously large following.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:14 PM
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28. willie was busted several years ago...well his bus was and...
the cops took the pot and let them go...

hey it`s willie nelson, he`s an american icon
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 02:29 AM
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70. He was busted in Louisiana a while back, but we actually let him go. Whodathunkit? NT
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:17 PM
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29. Kinky says that Willie always takes three buses.
Two for the people and equipment and one for the pot. :D

:rofl:

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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:35 PM
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34. Ha! I love it!
I wonder if I could get a job with Willie. B-)
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:27 PM
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32. Where's the Tea Party outrage?


You know, "big government" and all.


:think:
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:53 PM
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38. I guarantee you Mr. Wilson will be on Alex Jones' show talikng about this.
Will any liberal hosts have Mr. Nelson on to discuss the idiocy and tyrany of the Drug War? I doubt it.
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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #38
59. I think that their leashes (nooses) are a little tight at the moment
programing can change in a heartbeat, just ask Phil Donahue.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:33 PM
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33. Again?
Dammit, leave Willie alone!!

I bet it was some good shit, I can only imagine the weed Willie gets. :smoke: :hippie:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:54 PM
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39. He's got his own strain of pot..
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 12:28 AM by Webster Green
"Willie Nelson is an F1 hybrid between Vietnamese and Highland Nepalese. This was bred specifically for the man it's named after, a good ol boy who likes old school sativas, so we combined the best of old school and new school to create Willie Nelson."

http://www.weedbay.net/modules.php?modid=15&action=show&id=749

Looks nice!




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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:40 AM
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63. THAT'S how you know you've "Made It"!
Really, what higher honor is there?



Ok, maybe that... ;-)
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:35 AM
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84. +1 for sativa!
And yes, looks very nice!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:58 AM
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89. Sweet
That must be the shit Toby Keith wrote the song about. :P
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:36 PM
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:58 PM
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41. Maybe it's Washington DC that should seceed - or be kicked out
Texans didn't initiate the bust - the Feds(Border Patrol) did. Had the Feds not alerted the locals and asked them prosecute there would be no arrest to talk about.

Last time I checked the Federal government was headed by people purporting to be liberals.

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:12 AM
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44. er, DC is 74% Democrat so don't blame DC - Congressional repukes are another thing
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 12:19 AM by wordpix
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090301241.html

snip: Democratic voters have not changed much, maintaining a 74 percent majority in the city, according to statistics. About 2 percent of voters are registered with the D.C. Statehood Green Party, 16 percent are registered as nonpartisan and 1 percent belong to other small parties. snip

So that's 93% that are not Repuglicans among DC residents. :rofl: WHO should secede?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:40 PM
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132. Very good point to make.
And as you may well know, we must give up our freedom, so that we can protect our nation and it's uniquely American way of life.
<Sarcasm meant>

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Rozlee Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:26 AM
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50. C'mon, let up on us Texans...
a lot of us are flaming liberals down here except that we've been gerrymandered the hell out of and too many Texans are too poor and discouraged and disenfranchised to vote. But, of course, there is the idiot factor. I read of a proposed solution by a Texan posting on another liberal website. He said instead of all of Texas seceding, we ought to set aside a section of the state just for them. I vote for the patch near Tynan where those UFOs are always abducting people. Then, we can send pRick Perry, upChuck Norris and their band of merry morans to secede down there to their hearts' content. Have a contest on what to call their new kingdom. Dumbfuckistan. The Republic of Teabagsvania.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:56 AM
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57. Texas can be divided into 5 states according to its constitution.
I think I read this somewhere. If that happens I might move back to Austin.
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Rozlee Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:24 AM
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105. Wouldn't help me none....
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 11:37 AM by Rozlee
I'm stuck in Boerne, TX., 87% Republican by demographics. Unless I can sell this place I live in to someone that would be stupid enough to buy a crater in Arizona, like a Teabagger. All might not be lost though. All of them will be moving soon around Tynan to the Federation of Analprobeia. Gawd, conspiracists say that aliens are breeding with humans to produce hybids to preserve their species which has hit an evolutionary dead end. With Teabaggers, that dead end devolved into a CAUTION, CLIFF AHEAD. Their species is doomed.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:39 AM
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62. Killing Kennedy? Please!
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 01:51 AM by man4allcats
Try reading a book. I would suggest JFK And The Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters. The author, James W. Douglass, makes a very credible case for the Joint Chiefs and the CIA setting up the kill. It was actually planned for 3 weeks earlier in Chicago but was discovered and so had to be postponed. This job had the Feds' signature all over it. As for the Bushes - or bushes, - you can grow bad weed anywhere. And DeLay? Hey, don't you read the news? A Texas jury convicted him! Sheesh! :eyes:
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:58 PM
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42. He's been suffering from the reefer madness for decades.Maybe now he'll get the help he needs.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:17 AM
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46. You still have time to add a sarcasm smiley.
I mean...I don't need one, but there are a good number of anti-pot DUers who post stuff like that in all seriousness. You could come under attack by hippies. :smoke:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:20 AM
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48. I almost attacked him but thought better of it b/c maybe a guy with a collapsed lung
shouldn't be smoking pot.

OTOH, Willie can afford his own health insurance/health care and then some, so it' up to him to keep those lungs wrecked.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:53 PM
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131. People shouldn't laugh, my brother almost died that way.
He smoked like two whole marijuanas and now he's in an insane asylum. True story.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:04 AM
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43. Checkpoint?
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:16 AM
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45. The cop demanded Willie show his papers.Wille said "Zig Zag?Joker?Bugler?...."
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 12:21 AM by Yeahyeah
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 03:01 AM
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71. :)
Nice one!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:29 AM
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83. Ha ha. Well done. n/t
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:18 AM
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47. doesn't Border Patrol have anything better to do than bust Willie with all the "dangerous illegals"
picking lettuce, cleaning motel rooms and terrorizing the white folks down there? :crazy:

Just saying...
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:41 AM
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53. yea..shouldnt they be looking for someone to shoot in the ass again??
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:26 AM
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49. Your tax dollars at work
:patriot:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:40 AM
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52. not ever going back to Texas is no loss.. except for Texas
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:42 AM
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54. Jesus H. Christ.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:39 AM
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61. Give me a fucking break... why are we still wasting our time with this nonsense?
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:51 AM
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64. Keeping it illegal = profits for special interests
Certainly the private/commercial prison industry likes pot being illegal. I'm not sure if any cartel money ends up in the hands of anti-pot politicians, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Stimulants & opiods gave drugs a bad name. Nobody ever OD'd on weed, and if more people smoked a damn joint now and then the discourse in this country would be a hell of a lot more civil. Give me a choice between dealing with people that are drunk or those who've smoked a doobie, and I'll take the stoner every time. I remember being in the service and watching hard-core drunks retained or even promoted, while great sailors who smoked a random joint on weekend leave were summarily tossed out of the military. Crazy.

I had real hope that California Prop 19 would pave the way for the nation to come to it's senses WRT marijuana laws. I don't know how it failed, other than perhaps Diebold rigged yet another election.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:21 AM
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74. Proposition 19 failed because too many cannabis users, ...

and others, are happy with the current paradigm.

An incredible amount of lies, disinformation and just plain bullshit was promulgated just before the election by those who are making big money growing marijuana, running medical marijuana dispensaries, defending busted cannabis users, trimming bud, arresting, prosecuting, jailing, engaged in the judicial system, and otherwise cashing in right now. Basically the concern is that the price of "pot" will go way down. Prices have been decreasing steadily for the last few years, the wholesale price for a pound in Northern California is now about $2000, or $1800, depending on quantity. Literally everybody in some of the rural areas is growing. There is a glut every year about this time. The vast scale of this enterprise would be difficult for most folks from elsewhere to comprehend. We're talking many billions of dollars at the wholesale level just in California.

The price per pound was $2500 two years ago, and ten to twenty years ago it was $4000/lb. Before that it was a high as $5000/lb. This is the wholesale cost from the grower for high grade sinsemilla, one toke dope...

Even the "trim", the leaves and bits previously discarded while trimming buds, until about five years ago, is now quite valuable because turning this material into very strong, tasty hashish is easy with what are referred to as "bubble bags" and ice, that's all. Google is your friend if this isn't something you have heard about yet.

Of course many of these people were for the measure but an incredible number turned out to be opposed.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #74
122. Wow, I really miss hash...
one of my favorite smells on the planet, and an awesome, mellow buzz!

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1984privacy Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 02:02 AM
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68. checkpoint?
is this a mexico to texas thing?
geez, any common folk would be fucking fucked over SIX ounces.

I'M GLAD TO SEE CELEBRITIES STILL GETTING OFF EASY.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:10 AM
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96. Got that right! And welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 02:24 AM
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69. One more reason to hang heads in shame.
No victim, no crime.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:33 AM
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75. We love Willie here. I fear
he could be in some deep shit as the State of Texas considers marijuana pretty serious in quantities of six ounces. Can anyone from Texas shed some light on the penalty?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:50 AM
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87. Go to the NORML website, they have state by state penalties among.......
...........other interesting shit. Looks he could get anything from probation to two years and 10K fine. My guess is he will get probation and a stiff fine. Texas doesn't need to have one of their favorite sons in jail or looking like the state is harrassing him. We will probably see in the next week different celebrities, politicians and media talking about this again which is a good thing.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:29 PM
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138. Thanks. nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:47 AM
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77. What a waste of law enforcement dollars. Leave Willy alone!
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:52 AM
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78. Finally, some intrepid detective work.
:banghead:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:59 AM
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79. Right wing lies!
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:36 AM
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85. Oh, thank God they got such a wanton criminal off the streets!!
:sarcasm:
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prodigals0n Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:40 AM
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86. In other news...
Sun expected to rise in Eastern sky tomorrow morning.

Goddamnit, stop this fucking nonsense. Christ's sake, we're waging war on a plant, a gift from God. This is insanity.

It's all too typical of the serial-authoritarian bullshit we've become accustomed to, which is becoming America's hallmark and a likely candidate as our most enduring legacy if this nation doesn't come to its senses soon.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:35 AM
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90. Must have been a slow day at the border...
Searching Willie's bus is a guaranteed pot bust. He just laughs, pays the "tax" and goes on his way. I'm glad that someone who can afford it keeps exposing the idiocy. I'm waiting for the documentary on pot and Willie's longevity to be produced...
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:49 AM
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92. Ridiculous. Surely our law enforcement has more important things to do than cuff Willie for 6 oz of
pot.

My guess is that they went after him; he recently talked on Larry King about how he smokes pot. I thought then...oh, dear...that's like waving a red flag at a bull. Every law enforcement officer will be looking for a reason to stop his bus.

I'd rather they spent their time on REAL criminals.
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:56 AM
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93. LEAVE WILLIE ALONE!
He is more of an American treasure than Sinatra ever was.
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NikRik Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:51 AM
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99. Kick !
Leave him alone and something constructive to do,please !
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:09 AM
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95. Love you, Willie - Let our man, go! nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:25 AM
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97. I'm shocked... SHOCKED (nt)
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:58 AM
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100. Charging someone with pot possession in south Texas is like
handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500. Willie must really put a bug up someone's ass.

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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:14 AM
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104. Six ounces?
Willie must have forgotten to clean the roaches out of the ashtrays.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:46 AM
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106. Thank you Border Patrol, for all your help with America's problems


Thanks for taking a working person who is (hopefully he's learned by now) paying income taxes, state taxes, buying goods and services, employing other people who work and buy things and pay taxes, and instead threatening to put him in a state run and paid for "cheap" hotel, where he can make a few select Prison Industry CEOs and their shareholders some profit. The people of Texas can pay his room and board (he'll pitch in a bit.)


We've got to get everyone dependant rapidly so the corporations can suck their percentage of profits out of us.


Anything else we may contribute does not matter , here in the Enlightened year of 2010.












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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:05 PM
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107. If I were him I would have stayed in Mexico
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:18 PM
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113. The fucking "border patrol" are everywhere...
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 01:21 PM by ProudDad
Nelson was probably just travelin' on I-10 completely within Texas...

A friend of mine got busted for his California-Legal medical marijuana when he drove into Arizona from California on I-8...

It's going to cost him (at least) $1000 (for the lawyer alone) to fight it...

It's just more of the Police State Bullshit in the belly of the beast...
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:47 PM
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140. you're probably right
I know if you're within a certain distance of any border they can pull you over for no reason. I'm sorry to hear about your friend Border patrol sucks, they almost arrested my GF and I for a marijuana crumb on the floor of our car.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:36 PM
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109. What a joke.

Two of my favorite tokers, doing what they do.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:57 PM
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110.  cory777
cory777

Everyone Know Willie Nelson was smoking.... And that he have been doing that for many decades.. After all he is one of the orginals from the 1960s....

To bust him is just dumb if you aske me... Specialy if it just for weed... Stronger drugs, a whole different story, but weed... (never smoked it myself, but come on)

Diclotican
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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:17 PM
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111. what does that have to do with myself?
Do you believe since I posted the story that makes me a supporter of pot laws? If so, you are very confused! Maybe you should start smoking it, it will relax you a bit.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:25 PM
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117. I don't think that's what he's saying at all.
It's just a friendly message from someone whose English is better than your or my Norwegian (Finnish? Danish) will ever be.
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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:30 PM
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118. If so...
Then thanks for the "friendly message" and I agree that the laws are in place only to enrich those who have the power.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:45 PM
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121. Lautremont
Lautremont

Wel, my english is maybe not that good.. But I just find this history, about Nelson to be stupid. He can be arrested, and put to trial and in prison for like 160gram with pot.. That is NOTHING, compared to what really dangrous drugs do to your body, and to everyone else... But I bet my english is better than his Norwigian, or Danish any day in the week;)

Diclotican
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:42 PM
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120.  cory777
cory777

Never my willing of outing you for a smooker;). Or outed you for been a suporter of pot laws. It was more about the fact that Willie Nelson got busted, for something most who have followed him for the last couple of decades had at least a little knowlegde about. The man have been in pot business for a LONG TIME.. And have posible been smoking more pot, than everyone else on this forum ever vil do.

But, he dam make use good music, and that is most important;)..

Diclotican
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:21 PM
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114. It's not about logic
this is the fucking border patrol -- an arm of the National Security State's Gestapo apparatus...

No logic involved...

It makes money for the Empire and keeps the sheeple quiet and scared...
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:42 PM
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119. Best night's sleep I've had in ages knowing Willie is off the streets
This is a dangerous man folks....Beware.

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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:54 PM
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123. Hang in there Willie
Isn't 'I smelled marijuana' the cops built in excuse for searching anybodies car or in this case bus. Don't get me wrong in this case it wouldn't surprise me if they did smell marijuana, but anytime a person is stopped all a cop has to say is 'I smelled marijuana' and they get to search your car without a warrant. How many times do they do this, find nothing and the person just goes on their way and we don't hear about it. I think in a lot of case, especially when it come to celebrities, that look at who they are dealing with and figure there is a high (no pun intended) probability that the person is carrying so they just use the built in excuse to get access to the inside of the vehicle.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 02:14 PM
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126. Willie helped us turn the tide for our Governor Elect, Neil Abercrombie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18RAj-qDKNo Willie Nelson / Willie K - Will The Circle Be Unbroken / I'll Fly Away This was shot from close to the front but in the back we were dancing :)

We had a concert for Neil with Willie Nelson and Willy K, and somewhere along around the middle, the energy shifted for the whole race, and we ended up kicking butt.

17 pt spread.... Mahalo Willie
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:26 PM
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135. Way to go Willie!
We need all the good publicity we can get. Come to California and help us get pot legalized!
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Freetradesucks Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:29 PM
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137. Fucking Hippy
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:56 PM
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141. I, for one, will sleep easier tonight knowing this menace has been apprehended
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 09:56 PM by deutsey
:sarcasm:

Where's the fucking wormhole that leads back to the sane alternate universe? This one sucks.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 10:30 PM
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142. i love willie, but trying to sneak 6 fucking ounces over the border is asking for trouble... it's
almost half a pound...

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:39 AM
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143. Dam Willy! 6 ounces!? Sounds like a chain pot smoker!
No dime bags 4 Willy!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 12:24 PM
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144. Join Willie Nelson's Teapot Party
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:53 PM
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