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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 03:57 PM
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NJ must pay $271M for killing tunnel
Source: Poughkeepsie Journal

TRENTON, N.J. — New Jersey owes the federal government more than $271 million after canceling a rail tunnel connecting the state with New York, according to a debt notice obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

The letter from the Federal Transit Administration's chief financial officer to NJ Transit's executive director demands payment of $271,101,291 by Dec. 24.

It's money the government wants New Jersey to repay for work done on the Hudson River tunnel before Republican Gov. Chris Christie terminated the project. The notification follows a warning letter earlier this month estimating the charges.

"FTA demands payment in full within 30 days from the date of this letter, hereinafter referred to as the 'delinquency date,'" the letter states. The letter was dated Nov. 24.

Read more: http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20101129/NEWS12/101129018/NJ-must-pay--271M-for-killing-tunnel
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:00 PM
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:42 PM
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8. That makes $671 million down the tubes because of Christie...
Remember his vaunted Education Commissioner lost $400 million.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:39 AM
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20. Infastructure GROWs the Economy - Creates Jobs
Yes the Guberment CAN create jobs

I blame this insanity on the RATpubliCON talking heads repeating the lie "The Government Can not create jobs".
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:06 PM
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2. Let us thank the GOP for the tunnel to nowhere
n/t
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:12 PM
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3. I worked on this project.
Part of the "environmental studies" included relocating a potter's field (cemetery) to make room for parking at a new exit on I-95 in 2003. It had been abandoned and was buried in trash and fill, as well as having a juvenile correction center built on top of it. So some good came of it, I guess.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:19 PM
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4. Sounds like my cell phone plan

They should have gone with the month-to-month plan for tunnels
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:20 PM
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5.  haaaaaaaaaaa...OMG!
knr!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:23 PM
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6. I hope the NJ Democrats have someone lined up to knock off that ass at the end of his term. nt
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:48 PM
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10. Hell, by then...
Faux News and the repuke talking heads will have convinced the faithful that it as all the Democrats fault. And they'll buy it, hook, line and sinker.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:08 PM
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12. End of his term? why not a recall - now?
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:41 AM
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25. Many states don't allow for that.
I don't know if that's possible in New Jersey. It depends on the state constitution.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:08 AM
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21. I would think that Codey, who would easily have won had the governorship
in the first place had the party not gone with Corzine who was willing to dump a huge amount of his money to win, is still respected enough. Others have mentioned Cory Booker, a very interesting, charismatic young mayor of Newark.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:32 PM
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7. Just hire those guys digging secret tunnels to smuggle drugs from Mexico. n/t
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:38 PM
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18. Oops, you forgot...they are "illegals." Can't have that!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:45 PM
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9. the feds want the money "back" from wisconsin and ohio .
illinois is "asking" for wisconsin`s money.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:58 PM
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11. Christie will take his time returning the money.
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Thav Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:09 PM
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13. So, how much of a tax cut on the rich
does it take to pay for that?
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:10 PM
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14. I'm unable to respond tonight with anything other than
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:14 PM
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15. That tunnel had big problems and the projected cost was climbing fast
Governor Crisco was in a tough situation on this one. This was not just a "smarmy Kashith moment"
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:58 PM
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17. Musta hired the same folks who did the big dig fiasco in Boston
Sooner or later you'd think they'd make radical changes in the way they go about building these tunnels.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:54 PM
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19. Roit, roit, roit....vital progress can be expensive
Edited on Mon Nov-29-10 07:18 PM by ooglymoogly
If gov "Crisco" had been in position of power when our vast Highway systems were built we would still be plodding around on unpaved back roads. Of course it will cost more than estimated, unless Donald Trump takes the contract, which isn't such a bad Idea.

Progress, commerce and the shopping public require ease of transport; which pays back the system in spades; as was proven in the 50's and 60's. If the conservative naysayers had their way; there would be no Panama Canal(Carter giving away same, not withstanding), no Golden Gate Bridge; Hoover damn and the fab bridge in front of it; add infinitum; no Chunnel (engineering wise one of the seven wonders of the world), only turning a profit after 15yrs of struggle.

Far sighted progressives have made this world a far, far better place.

Damn the torpedoes and get great and fabulous projects done. We are a far better world for it.

Gov. "Crisco" is a "conservative" shortsighted fool; let the record show.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:11 AM
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22. The problem is that when he said he wanted to cancel,
Lahood worked with him and offered to reduce the amount that NJ could be responsible in the overruns. He could have stopped there and been a hero. The tunnel would have continued with less cost risk for NJ.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:17 AM
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23. Good answer...eom
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:20 PM
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16. I'm not surprised that the idiots at NJ 101.5 are backing the governor
and attacking President Obama on the very correct attempt to recoup the money put out for the tunnel.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:38 AM
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24. Meh, more of that "sensational" repuke recovery plan at work.
what a half wit.
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