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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:29 AM
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U.S. blamed for 'tone' that inspired mutilations

By Tom Carter
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

On April 28, 2003, just two days before President Bush declared the end of "major hostilities" in Iraq, members of the 101st Airborne Division occupying a school in Fallujah opened fire on about 200 Iraqi demonstrators, killing 15, including at least three schoolboys under the age of 10.

The residents claimed they were demonstrating to get the troops out of the school so that classes could resume. The Pentagon said the soldiers were fired upon and returned fire.

There was another incident two days later in which more Iraqis were killed.

"That set the tone for the occupation in Fallujah," said Rashid Khalidi, professor of Middle East and Arabic history at Columbia University, yesterday. "It got off on the wrong foot. In Fallujah, there is a degree of bitterness that isn't seen anywhere else. There haven't been mutilations elsewhere."

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040405-092823-9525r.htm
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:37 AM
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1. I don't know what to say.
This situation is only going to get worse with more tragedy for both sides. Of course it's the children that are going to get caught in the middle.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:41 AM
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2. The U.S. military should take lessons from the British.
Aside from charges of prisoner abuse, the British troops are reportedly more engaged with Iraqi civilians. If the U.S. troops act like brutal thugs, the citizens will respond accordingly.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:47 AM
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3. they should take lessons from the Spanish
and get the hell out.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:25 AM
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7. You speak the truth, truthspeaker.
The US military leadership is not capable of handling the situation they have created. The only reasonable solution is for the US to get the hell out and pray the world body of the UN can help to remedy this horrible Bushco creation.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:47 AM
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4. Some of the supposed "U.S. troops" are mercenaries,
many from countries in South America, where we've been teaching people to terrorize the populace for decades.

Who knows what atrocities are being committed right now in Iraq by supposed "U.S. troops?"

Even Chimpy and Cheney don't know. Their hands are dripping with blood.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:02 AM
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6. Not some -- more than 15,000 mercenaries
which is greater than the total number of coalition troops now in Iraq. Brits have less than 7,000 troops in Iraq now!
A very large proportion of the 15,000 mercenaries come from South Africa -- they are the tattered remnants of the pre-aparthied SA police and armed forces, in other words SA's KKK who make USA's KKK look like Boy Scouts.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:56 AM
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5. I'm sure there are many people in Fallujah...
... who also have nightmarish memories of one of the greatest slaughters of innocent civilians in the first Gulf War:

The following are some of the practices that led to needless civilian deaths, according to Middle East Watch:

(excerpt)

Daytime bombing - During the air war, despite claims by the Pentagon that it was engaging in nighttime bombing to prevent civilian deaths -- and despite the fact that air superiority by the coalition, which allowed allied forces to "pick and choose" their targets, was achieved almost immediately after the beginning of the war -- many heavily-populated bridges and market areas were targeted during the daytime hours, resulting in substantial loss of life. These incidents including the following: a mid-afternoon bombing of a bridge in Nasiriyya in southern Iraq (100 dead); the bombing of a marketplace in Falluja in Western Iraq (about 200 dead) -- an event at first denied, then admitted, by the allies; the attack on a footbridge in Samawa in southern Iraq (over 100 dead); four bombings of a crowded market area in the city of Basra in January and February (total casualties unknown); the bombing of an area east of the southern city of Hilla, where civilians were lined up to purchase cooking gas (about 200 killed or injured). In many of these instances, there was no known military purpose that the destruction of such targets (or any nearby locations) could have served.

More...

http://www.stanleyaronowitz.org/iraq.shtml
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:27 AM
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8. And they will never forget.
x
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:34 AM
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9. Didn't the investigation
into the shooting by the 101st call into question their version of events? I seem to recall that no bullet holes were found on buildings behind the 101st, but pleanty were found behind the Iraqis, casting doubt on the claim the the 101st was "fired on".

Or was this a different incident?

David Allen
www.thoughtcrimes.org
Distrusting the Government Since 1984
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:03 AM
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10. Pretty sad
no shortage of sad stories out of Iraqnam.
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