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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 04:09 PM
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Son of shah of Iran commits suicide
Source: CNN

(CNN) -- Alireza Pahlavi committed suicide at his home in Boston, Massachusetts, a spokesman for the family of the former shah of Iran said Tuesday.

Pahlavi, 44, was the son of former Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, who was overthrown in 1979 and died the following year in exile in Cairo, Egypt.

"It is with immense grief that we would like to inform our compatriots of the passing away of Prince Alireza Pahlavi," the family website said.

"Like millions of young Iranians, he too was deeply disturbed by all the ills fallen upon his beloved homeland, as well as carrying the burden of losing a father and a sister in his young life. Although he struggled for years to overcome his sorrow, he finally succumbed."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/04/shah.son.suicide/?hpt=T2
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 04:19 PM
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1. "In June 2001, Pahlavi's sister, Leila Pahlavi, also committed suicide."
Sad.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 04:37 PM
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2. Not really when you consider what that family did.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:11 PM
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5. He was just a kid in 1979
Not sure how you can hold him responsible for anything his family did.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:22 PM
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7. I'm aware of that
which is just simple maths. I have however no sympathy for any of that family without whom we wouldn't necessarily have the current blowback mess out there.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:49 PM
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22. Unbelievable.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:46 PM
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35. I'd have to agree. Disappointing. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:14 PM
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6. he was a kid
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:29 PM
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18. She seemed to be doing anorexia and barbiturates at the same time.
She was 31.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 04:43 PM
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3. Suicide is always unfortunate. n/t
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:06 PM
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4. I know the man who delivered him as a baby.
That is strange. How sad. Darn, I can't take all of the dying on the forum this afternoon.
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 06:41 PM
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8. How Sad!
He always dreamed of returning to Iran. I don't care what the father did, the kids were not at fault.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:16 PM
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:47 PM
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36. I'm too frequently amazed at the heartlessness of some here on DU - and I think
your post is heartless. It's like listening to Republican "Christians".
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ZenKitty Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:02 AM
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38. You disgust me. n/t
:(
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM
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10.  Shah of Iran's younger son kills himself in US
Source: BBC News

4 January 2011 Last updated at 15:48 ET
Shah of Iran's younger son kills himself in US

The younger son of the Shah of Iran, Alireza Pahlavi, has killed himself in the US after a long battle with depression, his family says.

His brother, former crown prince Reza Pahlavi, said the family had been thrown into "great sorrow" by the news.

"It is with immense grief that we would like to inform our compatriots of the passing away of Prince Alireza Pahlavi," a family statement said.

Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was ousted in Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12115006
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Mark Maker Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM
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11. It seems his younger sister was suicided a while back too
revenge of victims the old Savak or the current regime not wanting any Royals around for ex-pats to rally around?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM
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12. You got that back to front ?
SAVAK was the Shah's - set up for him by the CIA and the Israelis. The Revolution would've disposed of that lot who killed tens of thousands on behalf of the Shah.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM
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14. Yes!
The Shah we had conveniently installed after we got rid of Mosaddegh for them. Another lesson we didn't learn about the middle east.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 PM
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:24 PM
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16. what a weak, pathetic family
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:22 PM
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15. The powerful aren't exempt from the devastation they inflict on the children of the powerless.
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Cutatious Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:27 PM
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17. As a child when his dad was replaced by crazed fundamentalists, he shares no blame
Now look at the Islamic paradise they have with nutjob running the place. Not too shabby if you like living with a 7th century mindset.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:30 PM
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19. His family bears all the blame in the world for what they did to iran.
He is just one more of their victims.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:56 PM
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20. That's a distorted point of view which ignores history
If the democratically elected leader of Iran hadn't been removed with the involvement of both the UK and US governments the fundamentalism may never have taken shape.

Mohammad Mosaddegh or Mosaddeq (Persian: محمد مصدّق, IPA: ( listen)*), also Mossadegh, Mossadeq, Mosadeck, or Musaddiq (19 May 1882 – 5 March 1967), was the democratically elected<1><2><3> Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 when he was overthrown in a coup d'état backed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency.

From a royal and aristocratic background, Mosaddegh was an author, administrator, lawyer, prominent parliamentarian, and politician. During his time as prime minister, a wide range of progressive social reforms were carried out. Unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labor in their landlords' estates. Twenty percent of the money landlords received in rent was placed in a fund to pay for development projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control.<4>

He is most famous as the architect of the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been under British control since 1913 through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) (later British Petroleum or BP). The Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. was controlled by the British government.<5> Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup on 19 August 1953, organised and carried out by the United States CIA at the request of the British MI6 which chose Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Mosaddegh.<6> The CIA called the coup Operation Ajax<7> after its CIA cryptonym, and as the 28 Mordad 1332 coup in Iran, after its date on the Iranian calendar.<8> Mosaddegh was imprisoned for three years, then put under house arrest until his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:23 PM
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42. Thank you for mentioning Mosaddegh
What would Iran look like now if we hadn't interfered. He nationalized the oil and that's a big no-no for the big oil boys. Just another story proving that our money and our lives are used more for corporate interests rather than defense or actually helping people. And, look at the mess that's been created today?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:58 PM
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21. The family could have a genetic predisposition to depression
And thus a higher than usual tendency to suicide.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 10:56 PM
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37. Depression is what i thought of, far more than some of the crap
being said on this thread.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:04 PM
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23. RIP. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:08 PM
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24. Son of Iran Shah Commits Suicide in US: Family
Source: AFP

Son of Iran shah commits suicide in US: family

By Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, January 4th, 2011 -- 5:55 pm

BOSTON, Massachusetts — The youngest son of the late shah of Iran has committed suicide in Boston, weighed down by sorrow at the loss of his father and the upheaval in his homeland, his family said Tuesday.

"It is with immense grief that we would like to inform our compatriots of the passing away of Prince Ali Reza Pahlavi," Reza Pahlavi, the shah's oldest son, said on his website.

He said his brother, 44, who was studying at Harvard University, had struggled to come to terms with the political troubles in his native Iran. "Like millions of young Iranians, he too was deeply disturbed by all the ills fallen upon his beloved homeland, as well as carrying the burden of losing a father and a sister in his young life," Reza Pahlavi wrote.

- snip -

"He died from a fatal gunshot wound. While the manner of death is being investigated is is not believed to be a homicide."

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/son-iran-shah-suicide/
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:08 PM
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25. That's always sad to hear of someone taking his/her own life. I wonder if he
realized just what his father did at the behest of our government.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 PM
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27. I think the family knows all too well. The eldest brother has long...
been politically active with other Iranian Americans and many wanted to see him return to some form of political office in Iran. Tragic, really. Paying the price for his father and then some...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 PM
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29. He couldn't not have known.
That family deserve no sympathy whatsoever for what was done to the Iranian people during his father's "puppet" reign. The general population of Iran are unlikely, even now, to have forgotten SAVAK.
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mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 PM
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30. More likely that he could
not stand to live any longer carrying on his shoulders the crimes of his father.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:29 PM
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31. most likely it had to do with totally unrelated personal problems
and not some spontaneous feeling of guilt a whole 31 years after the revolution.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:41 PM
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34. I always try to imagine I'm "that" person. So, if it had been my Dad and I loved
and looked up to him, I would have believed what he told me - how could I think any differently?

BUT THEN, when I got out in the world and learned the real truth it would have broken my heart. No way could I forgive him or find excuses no matter how much I loved him. I was just wondering if that's what maybe finally got to this son. So much of my identity is because of my dad, and it would shake me to my very soul to learn he wasn't the man I thought he was. :shrug:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 PM
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26. very strange
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 PM
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28. it must be getting crowded up in heaven
or is prince ali reza pahlavi doomed to walk the earth as a ghost forever like other suicides?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:34 PM
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32. The current Iranian regime is just as repressive as the shah's, all they did was
replace western styled authoritarianism with Islamic Fascism.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:40 PM
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ZenKitty Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:21 AM
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39. I thought about crafting a carefully worded response...
not worth it. I'm out of here...the evil and negativity is not anything I want to be around. Yes, it's evil to relish in anyone's death.

Best to all of you.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:46 AM
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40. The monarchists, while rich and well-connected, are widely seen as a hinderance to the opposition.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 06:03 AM by leveymg
The Pahlavi family, headed by the oldest son Reza, has been the center of much of the Iranian opposition, particularly in the U.S. The brother who just committed suicide, Alireza, is actually the youngest son, and was relatively unpolitical.

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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:22 AM
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41. R.I.P. Alireza, however he died.
The statement, carefully crafted by people who work for the rich and political Pahlavis, conveys the feelings and desires of the survivors. Any motive attributed to the deceased is pure public relations. The family still views themselves as the Iranian "government in exile".

Was he disturbed by "the ills fallen upon his beloved homeland"? We'll never know. My guess is the reasons for the suicide were more personal, or psychological/medical. If it was suicide.

Yes, his father was a thug. But he was OUR thug, enabled by us, glamorized by our media. And finally removed from office by other thugs.

:hi:
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