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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:24 AM Original message |
In his final days, ex-Pentagon official was disheveled |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. And the cleanup crew is out in full force. Nothing to see here, folks. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ...or drugged. n/t |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. At least it wasn't called a suicide. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. ...or taking Ambien, Lipitor... |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Lipitor causes amnesia? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It can, yes |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
73. Thank you for that information. I did not know. I take 20mg per day. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. The theory tends to be... |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. I can hear my dr. saying the exact same thing. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
70. How does the symptom of "amnesia" work from the drug ... suddenly? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. With Ambien - suddenly |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. OK ... thank you ... but I think we have to add in that there seemed to be |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. So are they making up the witnesses and video? |
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Paul Muni (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Why is he limping? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Because it is freezing and he is only wearing one shoe |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:24 PM Original message |
From the drugstore to the Wilm train station is about a 20 min drive on I-95. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
29. About 4.5 miles on 9 from there |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
50. Btw, the News Journal screwed up the timeline |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. He is confused and talking to him self. Boy oh boy. Drugged and murdered? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Drugged / Prescription reaction / head injury / stroke |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Then is found murdered? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yeah |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
51. Comments at the site are interesting .... Chemical/Biological weapons-fish/bird kills? |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
113. Beebe, AR (not AK) is about 60 miles north of Pine Bluff |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
114. It all could be a coinkydink, |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Well, the fish that died in the Arkansas River |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Question everything. nt |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Yes, it is called having an open mind |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. I noticed that some of the more recent articles don't mention |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. This pharmacist should be embarrassed to open his mouth. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. He offered to call a cab |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
54. The man did not seem rational, so yes, a call to his prescriber or 911 would have been in order. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
80. The pharmacist didn't say he appeared irrational |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. I had read someone along the way offered to call him a cab |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It was... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. Another straw man. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Okay, then what should the pharmacist have done? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. If you were in Wheeler's condition, what would you have wanted the pharmacist to do for you? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Wheeler asked him for a ride, the pharmacist offered to call a cab |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. You didn't answer the question .... you are walking around in cold weather w/o a coat .... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. He was sans coat and shoe in Wilmington, not at New Castle |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Pharmacist suggests the question re a ride "was a flag" and that Wheeler looked "a little upset" -- |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. He looked "a little upset" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Pharmacist says query was "a flag" ... Wheeler looked a little "upset" and "different" .... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Yeah, because the pharmacist NOW knows he is dead |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. No -- think anyone would say it was an unusual Q to a pharmacist.... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. The dumpster, in Newark, is ten miles away |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Police do not yet know which location the dumpster came from .... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. They don't know the specific dumpster, but they knew it was from Newark |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Well ... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. No shit |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Interesting that video may track him all the way to the dumpster ... !! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Beau Biden Delaware AG. |
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fatbuckel (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Or he knew too much and received a dose. I would like to see toxicology tests. Could implicate more |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. What would be the motive for murdering him? |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. There is no "that part of the theory"... |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Thank you, lol. What seems obvious is that the prior administration is immunized from |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Yup, pretty much... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. There's always a perfectly plausibly deniable story with some people, huh? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It was M.A.D.D. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Yes indeed. How convenient timing with the Repub takeover. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. If I may |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. THat is what they want you to think |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. LOL, I was going to say the same thing |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Maybe he was poisoned and didn't die. Or drugged in hopes he would OD. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. So in other words the theory will morph to accomodate the conclusion |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. The less it looks like an assassination |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
52. Presuming this was an attack, not all crimes are "perfect" -- that's why we have cover ups.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. OMG! |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. LOL |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Yeah, stuff like that only happens in movies |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Quality citations in that one |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Do you think Frank Olson committed suicide? n/t |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. No |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Obviously, whatever Wheeler was involved with -- from Pentagon to CFR, it is corrupt .... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Yeah, Democracy Now is pretty shady, isn't it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. This was the whole MK ULTRA program .. an adventure in our government/CIA's own insanity ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-13-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
89. Dead men tell no tales. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Oh please - you are such a wild and crazy guy, lol. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. Hey, it's a good theory as any. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Many of us become disheveled in our final days. nt |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm disheveled now! OMG!!! n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Happens to me all the time. nt |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I stay sheveled most of the time |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Quick, for tihe sake of your loved ones, SPRUCE UP! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Not many of the disheveled are murdered, however. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. "homeless man murdered" - 122,000 hits on Google |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. And the number of Google hits proves what? That the words homeless, |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Learn the Google |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I think murder makes people disheveled too. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Sure, but this is a story about a man who was disheveled while alive. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
69. ... but your family would know that and try to protect you ... at least I presume |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. His wife was at their home in NY, He was at their home in DE |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. She was said to be "traveling" -- and she did have business in NY - Silk from Cambodia... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
53. Did Wheeler have any family looking for him in these last three days? |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. His wife was reportedly in New York |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Thank you ... imo, if he were suffering from some "malady" his family would know .... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Jack Wheeler was a highly principled, ethical man |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I'd rarely think of anyone with connections to the Pentagon .... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. Yes, I did have a brief acquaintance with Jack... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Unfortunately, I'd have a very LOW opinion of anyone working in upper echelon of Pentagon .... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. Wheeler was considered a mid-level appointee |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Reports on his specific security clearance say they equal "inner ring of Pentagon" -- |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. LOL! Jack was never a 'Fundie" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Thanks -- |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Do you suppose he knew the details of the chemtrail program? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. "Chemtrail program" ... ??? |
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sharpeink (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Pentagon Death |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
59. The Man Who Knew Too Much |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
105. Yes! He knew the ending of 'My Pet Goat'! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
107. Sounds as if maybe he was wandering around in a confused state and someone just decided to kill him. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
108. I wonder if he stroked. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
109. I see he JUMPED into the Landfill |
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