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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:31 AM
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Cross-sex strip searches ruled unconstitutional (case from Joe Arpaio policy)
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

(01-05) 18:05 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- A female jail guard's strip search of a male inmate was a "humiliating event" that violated his rights, a divided federal appeals court in San Francisco ruled Wednesday.

Such searches of a prisoner by a guard of the opposite sex are unconstitutional except in an emergency, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in a 6-5 decision.

The ruling, in a case from Arizona, sets standards for nine Western states, including California. Dissenting judges said the court was improperly second-guessing jail officials.

(snip)

The inmate, Charles Byrd, was in Maricopa County's minimum-security jail awaiting trial in October 2004 when officials ordered searches of everyone in his unit after a series of fights.

Byrd was ordered to strip down to his shorts - colored pink, as required for all inmates by Joe Arpaio, the county's hard-line sheriff - and was searched by a female cadet from a training academy. She said she had taken no more than 20 seconds, while Byrd estimated the time at a minute. No contraband was found.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/05/BAGE1H4PU4.DTL
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:06 AM
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1. And, let's take the next step.....................
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:10 AM
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2. Not hiring women to work at prisons for men?

I'm not sure that's a good idea.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:14 AM
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3. Not allowing strip searches
Or not allowing prisons to be for profit, take your choice.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:01 AM
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7. Prisons should not be for-profit. I strongly agree. n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:44 AM
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10. It would be unlikely that would be disallowed upon admission to prison

Not that I'm any fan of what goes on in prisons in general, but I'll take "get rid of for profit jails" for $100, Alex
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:49 AM
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18. Strip searches, even body cavity searches are required
I agree about for profit prisons, but this did not happen at one.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:30 PM
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22. Arpaio's gulag isn't a for-profit prison
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:49 AM
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6. Fitting Sheriff Joke with a pair of pink boxers
And forcing him to be strip searched in front of all the people he put away?

Yes, please.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:02 AM
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11. It's a nice thought
But when Arpaio goes down it's likely to be on federal charges, so he wouldn't end up in the Maricopa County jails. No pink undies, living in a tent up to 130 degrees in Summer, peddling a stationary bike to watch TV, working on a chain gang to get out of solitary, or having to eat the cheap slop he serves for meals may not be poetic justice. But in his case, I'd settle for just plain justice.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 08:29 AM
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14. I agree
I just want him to be taken out of law enforcement. He's a public embarrassment.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:15 AM
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4. Given the choice in a cavity search, I think I'd prefer the person
with the smallest fingers.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:03 AM
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12. exactly
what strip search is not humiliating?
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:16 AM
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17. Maybe you assume
in this case that she had the smallest fingers. ;)
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:11 AM
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20. Fingure nails..... NT
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:09 AM
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5. the crazy things this Joe does.... good grief.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:20 AM
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8. Let's end strip searches .... and end for-profit prisons ... !!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:24 AM
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9. Yeah, I can definitely get behind both
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:36 AM
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13. Where in the Constitution...?
I found this reasoning in the article:

""The right to be free from strip searches and degrading body inspections is ... basic to the concept of privacy," Judge Johnnie Rawlinson said in the majority opinion, quoting an earlier ruling."

Who has the right to privacy in a prison? Isn't that a bit of a contradiction?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 09:05 AM
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15. Prisoner rights have been dispensed with as the right has risen ....
but there was once prison "reform" -- see Alger Hiss, Nixon's prime liberal enemy --

and certainly prisoner's should have rights --

Let's remember as well, that finally most prisoners are RELEASED --

almost a half million every year. What condition do you want them to be in when

they are released back into society?



"Beware of those with a strong urge to punish!"


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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:08 AM
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16. No, there is a diminished right to privacy when you are incarcerated.
But that doesn't mean that your are stripped of your rights entirely. The right to have your most intimate areas as private as possible still exists. So, while strip searches are constitutional, adding the insult/injury of having your junk searched by a member of the opposite sex for no good reason is not. Note that the judge stated that this rule gives way in case of emergency or exigent circumstances. But those circumstances were not present in this case.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:41 PM
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25. Definition of a shill
A person engaged in covert advertising
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:20 PM
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19. He said, she said
The event is almost CERTAINLY recorded on video. Why should there even BE an argument as to how long it took?
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:14 AM
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21. So, who serches the transgenders?? NT
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:32 PM
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24. Wanted: Transgendered LEO to work in prisons?
Maybe asexual individuals?
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faz Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:41 PM
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23. A female jail guard touches a male's junk?
that must be a tough stinky job.
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