Congress quietly prepares to renew Patriot Act

Source: Raw Story

Congress quietly prepares to renew Patriot Act
By David Edwards and Stephen Webster
Thursday, January 13th, 2011 -- 5:30 pm

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) has introduced a little-noticed bill that intends to once again renew controversial provisions of the Bush administration's USA Patriot Act that are due to expire this year.

When the act was first signed into law, Congress put in some "sunset" provisions to quiet the concerns of civil libertarians, but they were ignored by successive extensions. Unfortunately, those concerns proved to be well founded, and a 2008 Justice Department report confirmed that the FBI regularly abused their ability to obtain personal records of Americans without a warrant.

The only real sign of strong opposition to the act was in 2005, when a Democratic threat to filibuster its first renewal was overcome by Senate Republicans.

Since the bill introduced by Rogers on Jan. 5 was virtually identical to the extension passed last year, its passage was seen as likely.



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:grr:

:puke: They sicken me.

n/t

...Americans.

That it has to be asked by anyone, Screams entire libraries for worldwide expectations of America.

Sad is it not?

s-a-r-c-a-s-m

arrested/detained anyway.

edit to add: I trust my government.

:rofl:

Am I remembering incorrectly?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/did-obama-break-his-campa_b_288112.html

...Then-Senatorial candidate Obama in 2003 branded the Patriot Act "shoddy and dangerous" and pledged to dump it. He made the pledge in response to a candidate's survey by the National Organization for Women...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/did...

...Then-Senatorial candidate Obama in 2003 branded the Patriot Act "shoddy and dangerous" and pledged to dump it. He made the pledge in response to a candidate's survey by the National Organization for Women...

Wow!!! Didn't know that... maybe we need signed pledges in the future....!!??

It's been revised a few times.

Background on the revisions and reauthorizations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Reauthorizations

If Congress makes it worse somehow, "it's not the same bill" where a campaign promise involved?

We may as well just say that campaign promises are optional once a politician gets into office.

Congress actually made it better, and re-wrote some sections that were found to be unconstitutional or poorly worded.

But sorry, no one is buying it.

What has been changed that makes it OK now?

BTW, Mike Rogers is a complete and total jerk, who has done irreperable harm to Michigan. His name alone as the sponsor of a bill should cause Obama to consider a veto.

NSL's now require greater oversight, as do roving taps, sneak and peek had a definite time limit added, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Reauthorizations

:dem:

x(

or is he going to go along and legitimize even MORE Bush policies??

Nor are publicly posted communications....

Was there a specific provision you think is unconstitutional?

Those two come up frequently, would you care to be specific?

Same problem, though.

people like them. It would never be aimed at good white krischin Amurkans like us. That's what teabaggers believe.

Wolf

:hi:

They won't listen to a word we say since we're not in their cult.

Insert picture of --someone with their thumbs in their ears and their tongue stuck out at you --here.

Add soundtrack --'Everything you say falls off me and sticks to you!' or 'La-la-la, I can't hear you!'

They reject all information from heretics who don't follow their gods.

:hi:

Get off of DU (for a minute...) and do some research! connect the dots..........

Any help with the dot connecting would be appreciated!!

they make this quite clear every time they renew such un-American things as the unPATRIOTic Act.

Stupid Patriot Act. It was employed by Bush, but now Obama is in charge. We need to send a clear message to Washington that enough is enough! Maybe Michael Moore can help?

:grr:

And that is toned-down rhetoric compared to what I really want to say about that rotten festering sore of anti-democracy.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. :eyes:

Free to be spied on, eavesdropped, detained without charge etc etc etc

Not so much on the free anymore.

Which abrogates habeas corpus and with it the right
to a fair and speedy trial before a jury of your peers
Also the right to a lawyer and the be told nature of the
charges against you and the identity of your accusers.


Constitutional Conservatism; what a phony doctrine that is.

:crazy:

I'm sorry, I can't bear to watch the man. He makes me want to jump out of my body in the worst possible way. Or kill myself.

I can only process second-hand information. Some help here from more sturdy souls, please.

Here is an interview in 2008

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/10360/

Or for more information you could attend Glen Beck University

http://www.glennbeck.com/becku/

I wanted to stay sane just a little while longer...

:rofl:

embarrassed for even though you don't like them.

Makes you feel awful after watching. Plus her phony
attempts at empathy succeed only in revealing her
narcissism. She's impossible to watch.

Or wash your mind out with soap. It's a toss up.

I can't truly explain how icky these guys (and gals) are to me. Just against my resonance, frequency, essence, you name it, I can't do it.

I used to be able to do it, but it's become too much. Thanks for the answer there.


:hi:

IMO, you'd be much better off wondering what someone with a brain, morals and agenda-free knowledge of the Constitution sai about it--or at least Jon Stewart or Bill Maher.

I don't think Obama will do anything to oppose the Patriot Act. Frankly I think it has too much support in the house and senate and that he's afraid of the right labeling him as weak on terror.

I truly hope he proves me wrong, but I'm expecting more of the same on this one.

first all those proposed laws that'd create more security in Congress including plexiglass and enhanced laws against carrying guns around Congress members, and now that dreaded PATRIOT Act...doubt that Obama would successfully veto it...ugh

The hits just keep on coming.

"...a 2008 Justice Department report confirmed that the FBI regularly abused their ability to obtain personal records of Americans without a warrant."

"I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us – we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations."

After all, we need to be protected from Osama Bin Emmanuel Goldstein. I can hear them firing up room 101 as I type. Feel the (Ministry of) Love.
:eyes:

terrorist threats under the "Patriot Act" apparatus.

Their inflammatory speech alone would have been enough to have them shot on sight.

It is sad this country has fallen so far.

shocked and appalled..... ahhhh fuck it anymore. knr

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this is no way for a patriot to act. And people wonder why people compare him to Bush.

It was at the same time he promised that closing Gitmo would happen before his first year was over.

So chill.

They had 2 years to make this right...

I thought we were going to lose this abomination.

Is this really surprising to anyone?

K&R

Or so I had hoped.

Hey, as long as it keeps me safe from---say it with me now---

TERRA! TERRA! TERRA!

This is something that should bring together left, right, and libertarians.

http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-richmond/tea-party-must-take-a-stand-against-the-patriot-act

"But we're sure as fuck not going to!"

we mere citizens can't yet understand...

(Where is Toto to pull back the curtain?)

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Source: Raw Story.Com

I`m afraid to excerpt. May get sued. Please read story about Patriot Act Renewal. Nothing but a link here.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/congress-quietly-prepares-renew-patriot-act/

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I`m afraid to excerpt. May get sued. Please read story about Patriot Act Renewal. Nothing but a link here.

Besides that I believe there are some Raw Story people that post here, I think they are happy have the site recommmended.

one by one, we just let it happen~ another sign of what's to come~

link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4695883&mesg_id=4695883

because of this Orwellian, Big Brother, Constitution raping piece of legislation passed by the so call opponents of "Big Government," when they were in power.

The only significant opposition came from the Democrats; in 2005, perhaps it's no coincidence, they took back the Congress the following year for the first time since 1994.



I truly wonder about the merits of so called "centrism;" all it does is play the people against them selves under the false belief that a two party system actually exists.

Thanks for the thread, Judi Lynn.

I would like to see this ride off into the sunset.

:puke: