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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:21 PM
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NYC outdoor smoking extinguished from May 23
Source: Reuters

Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed legislation into law Tuesday that bans smoking in many public spaces around the five boroughs. Under the new law, smoking will be banned in the city’s 1,700 parks and 14 miles of public beaches. City pools and recreation centers will also be smoke free.

The bill bans smoking in city pedestrian plazas, like in Times Square, as well. Violators could face a $50 fine. However, in the past, the mayor has said that the city will rely more on signs and social pressure than enforcement.

The goal is to reduce secondhand smoke and trash. But those who spoke with NY1 earlier in the day in Union Square were split as to whether this new legislation is a positive thing for the city.

"There's a lot of kids and all that second-hand smoke, it's killing everybody so I think it's a good idea," said one New Yorker. "Sometimes you are walking, other people smoke and they blow the smoke in your face, so that's not good," agreed another.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110222/us_nm/us_smoking_newyork_1
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:22 PM
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1. I'd rather go to DC than NYC
Add this to the reasons why.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:24 PM
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2. And he already stated the law is unenforceable and they won't send a cop if you do
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:56 PM
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6. I assure you that a cop will enforce this if he feels like it.
Let's be serious here, you have a cigarette, you say the wrong thing, you're getting fined.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:11 AM
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11. Sure...........
:smoke:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:40 PM
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18. Or you're the wrong color
:scared:
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:26 PM
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3. All it does is put smokers on the sidewalk ...right next to ppl.
as opposed to a field in Central Park, 50 yards away from anyone...good move :eyes:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:54 AM
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13. I agree. No logic applied to this problem.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:34 PM
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4. From a non-smoking New Yorker: Go fuck yourself, Mike
Bloomberg fancies himself a little dictator, trying to organize other people's lives. No one I know in New York, smoker or not, gives a crap if other people are smoking outdoors.

More helpful to the health of New Yorker would be to scale back the rent control increases that his landlord-cozy boards have imposed, and which literally killed a neighbor of mine (heart attack from the stress).

Fuck you Mike, and the horse you rode in on.
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:39 PM
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5. Thanks for that
Agreed.

New Yorkers are great. Bloomberg sucks.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:00 PM
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7. Bloomberg fancies himself socially a nanny state liberal.
This move will likely be cheered by some DUers. I will not debate them.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:06 PM
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8. Hurrah! He's just cleaned up 0.000000001% of NY air pollution problem!
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 11:10 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:10 PM
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9. How 'bout taxi exhaust and fatsos on subways?
Poor New York. There's no one but wussy yuppies left.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:33 AM
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10. oh, no, exhaust doesn't count because it's harder to be self-righteous about.
This is just one more thing making NYC more and more like the world's largest shopping mall. God, rich people are just adorable.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:55 AM
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14. My brother lives in New York and he is not a rich man.
People who picture New Yorkers as nothing but millionaires and Fifth Avenue as representative of all of New York only know the place from 'Sex and The City.'

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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 03:11 PM
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16. Oh, I have a lot of friends who live there and I've spent a lot of time there.
I know that not everyone there is rich, and I don't think I really implied that, but the people running the place and the people they're running it for sure are. However, "not rich" by New York standards is more well off than in a lot of other places. The other week, just out of curiosity, I decided to look at New York apartment prices; shit! For even some of the cheapest studio apartments landlords wanted income guarantees above 40k a year. That may not be rich, but it's a hell of a lot more than I've ever made.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:43 PM
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22. "exhaust doesn't count because it's harder to be self-righteous about"
You should totally talk to the militant cyclists in Portland.

:evilgrin:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:43 AM
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12. I hate second-hand smoke. As an ex-smoker,
I find it repulsive. I'm all for this. The less smokers, the better for all of us. They're nothing but a load on all of us... jacking up insurance rates, stinking up the world. I welcome this.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:02 PM
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17. Smokers actually lower your health insurance
They die sooner. Taking them off the sick list earlier. What's cheaper a chain-smoker who checks out early? Or a vegan who ends up in assisted dying for another 30 years? Death by lung cancer at 60? Or death by some other cancer at 90? If you really want to save on health insurance, just hope we all die of fatal cardiac arrest. We just have a pay for the ambulance and the hearst. We all die of something.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:06 AM
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15. This will be enforced in high tourist and heavily rich areas, and ignored everywhere else
Just this last December I was in a smokey bar in Queens where they put out paper cups as ashtrays after 9pm. The smoking ban in bars has been around for 10 years. It is rarely enforced in the neighborhoods.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:41 PM
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19. The day after Mom's birthday!
she's a smoker and an NYC resident.

Thanks a heap, "Tiny Fascist'! :sarcasm:
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:17 PM
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20. The only thing this nanny state crap ever does is turn people away from progressive politics
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 08:17 PM by Kievan Rus
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:29 PM
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21. I wish I could give your post about a million recs n/t
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