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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:39 PM
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Justice drops defense of Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz
Source: Politico

Justice drops defense of Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz


By JOSH GERSTEIN | 2/22/11 5:09 PM EST

The Justice Department under President Barack Obama has quietly dropped its legal representation of more than a dozen Bush-era Pentagon and administration officials - including former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and aide Paul Wolfowitz - in a lawsuit by Al Qaeda operative Jose Padilla, who spent years behind bars without charges in conditions his lawyers compare to torture.

Charles Miller, a Justice Department spokesman, confirmed Tuesday that the government has agreed to retain private lawyers for the officials, at a cost of up to $200 per hour. Miller said “conflicts concerns” prompted the decision. He did not elaborate.

One private attorney involved in the case, who asked not to be named, said the Obama administration apparently concluded “its duty to represent the defendants zealously, which includes the duty to argue any and all defenses, can’t be discharged for reasons of policy and other government interests.”

The Justice Department continues to represent only a single official, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in the suit.






Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49998.html#ixzz1EkXjbf1y
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:40 PM
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1. How do you defend people who have confessed
in writing?
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:39 AM
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26. Confessed? Hell, bragged about what they did.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:43 PM
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2. Well. n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:49 PM
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3. The Justice Department is waking up
if they defend torturers ...then they are complicit with the torturers

Obama and his administration are now on the firing line

by stepping back they will gain a bit of credibility
but its too bad they waited for revolutions and uprisings before they did
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:52 PM
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7. They're just outsourcing defense of their crimes to private lawyers, which the public still must pay
...for. At up to $200 an hour.

Like Gitmo, itself, or the countries render individuals to for torture, it just sidesteps the law but does not yield to it.

PB
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:19 PM
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16. Contradicting the "look forward" policy, eh?
Defending these war criminals, even if by an outsourced legal team, seems pretty backward-looking.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:55 PM
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12. Not even close.
This is worse.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:50 PM
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4. Scumbags
PB
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:51 PM
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5. Christ, I can hear dick cheney swearing from here.
He must be beet red right now. I hope he undoes all of his heart surgery.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:52 PM
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6. They're Going To Pay Up To $200p/h Of Our Money For This Scum?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:53 PM
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8. It's small change Obama believes in.
PB
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:58 PM
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13. $200 per hour is not that much for a lawyer's hourly fees.
Not for the kinds of lawyers from big-name firms that they will probably want to hire.

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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:26 PM
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17. 200 / hour is a great deal
For those type of cases and the skill required The invoices will be padded like crazy but that would have happened at 400 an hour which is more like it for such expertise. If you are bitching about the price the goverment/ taxpayers are footing on this deal, you have not hired a really skilled big city lawyer in a while....
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:38 PM
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21. Woops! Happens all the time. I was the DUer saying that $200
is not much for a top lawyer. I think you meant to respond to the person I was responding to who talked about how that was a lot of taxpayer dollars.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:46 PM
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23. I think that the point is
We shouldn't be paying to defend them at all. Their Citizens United buddies should be ponying up any moneies needed.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:50 PM
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25. Quite
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:47 PM
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24. I Don't Want Them/Us Paying A Dollar p/h For Those Criminals
A great deal would be if they pay for their own lawyers and end up in jail
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:54 PM
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9. So, we are going to pay to retain private
lawyers for these scum sucking pig rat bastards at a cost of up to $200 per hour? Fuck this shit.

“conflicts concerns” ???? Yeah I see their fucking “conflict concerns”



:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:54 PM
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10. Why does the American taxpayer have to pay for lawyers
to defend torturers and people that started illegal wars??
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:55 PM
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11. Just don't have the time for ya, Rummy, sooorrrryyyy. Luv, Barack.
It's a little late, but this valentine will go right to the heart of the matter.

Boo-yah!
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:59 PM
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14. More like Fuck you taxpayers
Luv, Barack and his DOJ
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:14 PM
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15. So the fix is in? nt
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:29 PM
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18. Tax dollars to privately defend fucking War Criminals, but they don't want to pay teachers, public
employees, union members or anyone else for that matter, living wages?

What will they think of next?

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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Oh wait, did I mention?

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:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:



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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:30 PM
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19. Good. They're represented, and we quit complaining about details of their defenses.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:31 PM
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20. The justice department
needs to be CHARGING them not defending them in any capacity!!
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:38 PM
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22. gutless bastards who have sacrificed nothing...
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:17 AM
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27. Are these people destitute?
They have the means to pay so they should pay!

Here's more budget busters which must get cut, defending war criminals!
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 03:46 AM
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28. I kinda like the "We're dropping the defense and here's some chump change on your way out."
It rankles me that we are on the hook to defend these monsters but handing them a pittance of what they need to defend themselves brings me joy.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:40 AM
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29. Interesting.
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