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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:15 PM
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Arizona Senate panel passes birthright citizen law
Source: Associated Press

An Arizona Senate committee approved a bill late Tuesday designed to set up a U.S. Supreme Court case on automatic citizenship for children of illegal immigrants.

The Republican-led Appropriations Committee panel was also expected to consider a more sweeping bill later Tuesday that would target illegal immigrants in public housing, public benefits and the workplace.

That measure, which would add to last year's controversial Arizona illegal immigration law, drew vocal opposition from Democrats, who say its sponsor isn't focused on Republicans' stated top priority, the economy.

... The bill also makes it illegal for an illegal immigrant to drive in the state, providing for a 30-day minimum jail sentence and the seizure of their vehicles if they are convicted.

In housing, it requires public agencies to verify the immigration status of renters and to evict everyone living in a unit if one was found to be an illegal immigrant.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/22/state/n152727S09.DTL&tsp=1
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:19 PM
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1. Uncivilized and lacking in compassion..........
This is an amazing step, to me.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:20 PM
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2. This is a legal can of worms if I ever saw one.
First of all, Arizona can't seize jurisdiction from the Feds on immigration and naturalization. These legislators are not lawyers, I would wager, and can't just grab jurisdiction from the Feds. It is in the Constitution.

I have a law degree. This will be struck down in a New York minute.

Unconstitutional as well as lacking jurisdiction.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:25 AM
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15. Most, if not all state legislatures include law school grads.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 05:37 AM by No Elephants
Maybe Arizona's lawmakers went to Clown College instead?

Kidding aside, Arizona's legislature does include law school grads, and legislators certainly have access to legal advice, so they have no excuse whatever.

Besides, you don't really even need a law degree to read Article 1, Section 8 and Amendment 14, Section 1 and get the big picture on citiizenship and naturalization.

This is no innocent mistake, but garden variety Republicon {sic} thuggery.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:21 PM
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3. So Arizona Law Trumps The Constitution?
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:36 PM
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8. They know it doesn't, but don't care
This is just a vehicle to get the issue to the Supreme Court.

They know they can't get it in through the front door, so they're back-dooring the issue.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:09 AM
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10. They're hoping the Supreme Court will reinterpret the 14th Amendment
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faz Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:22 PM
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4. All politics are local

Republicans should build a wall first.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:46 AM
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13. So said Tip O'Neill. However, I'm guessing Tip knew all government power is not local.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 04:49 AM by No Elephants
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:27 PM
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5. The Pukes only follow the constitution when it is convenient for them.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

- Amendment 14

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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:34 PM
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6. States do not determine Citizenship. Nice try Teabaggers. This will blow up in their faces.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:35 PM
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7. Let's see here
The bill also makes it illegal for an illegal immigrant to drive in the state, providing for a 30-day minimum jail sentence and the seizure of their vehicles if they are convicted.

In housing, it requires public agencies to verify the immigration status of renters and to evict everyone living in a unit if one was found to be an illegal immigrant.


The first provision will end up costing the state more money to enforce the law. More police resources, more jailing of more people and the repo costs.

The second will result in landlords passing those added administrative costs down to their tenants in the form of higher rents or new fees (I can see an "citizenship verification fee" of some sort being added when you want to sign a lease).

And the unfunded mandate on public schools will be a budget buster at a time when they are bleeding resources as it is.
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aikanae Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:54 PM
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9. And Arizona is too broke to offer Medicaid?
How can they pass this kind of nonscense without a vote? This is unfunded (of course) but the state is dropping half of Medicaid (voter approved) in July. I wish my house was worth something and I'd leave. I think Az has lost 1/3 of it's population and thx to "beheadings in the desert" claims, 50% (or more) of tourism.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:01 AM
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11. No, it wasn't the "beheadings in the desert" stories that keep me away from AZ.
I know those aren't true. I stopped visiting AZ, which I used to do at least annually, because of the immigration law. I'm a brunette, doncha know, so I could be jailed for not having my ID with me when I'm in public.

I feel much safer, since I moved a thousand miles farther away.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:11 AM
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12. Amendment XIV, section I:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
States and of the State wherein they reside.
No State shall
make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges
or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall
any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Looks pretty cut and dried to me.

Q3JR4.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:29 AM
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16. Note to skimmers: The unbolded sentence is also very relevant.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:09 AM
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14. Article I, section 8,
The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniformthroughoutthe United States;

<snip>
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:20 AM
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17. Where's Brewer mouth on the GOP House cutting funds for border protection?
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