Somali pirates threaten to murder more hostages

Source: The Guardian

Pirates in Somalia have said they are ferrying ammunition and men to the 30 hijacked vessels under their control, and threatened to kill more captives following the violent end to a hostage standoff that left four Americans dead.

The US military said that 15 Somali pirates detained after the killings on Tuesday could face trial in the United States. The pirates are being held on the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise off East Africa. The FBI is investigating the killings of Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle, of Seattle, and Jean and Scott Adam, of Los Angeles, who had made their home aboard their yacht Quest since December 2004.

Pirates hijacked the yacht last Friday and held the four hostage. When a US warship responded to the incident, the hostages were shot and killed.

The Adams handed out bibles during their travels around the world, but a pirate who gave his name only as Hassan said religion had played no part in their death. He said the pirates reacted violently after the US forces blocked the yacht's path.



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/23/somali-pirates-american-hostages-trial

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These assholes really have some gall, the pirates shouldn't even make it to the US they should be thrown off ship for shark bait.

killing people for money?

would be why.

nt

I don't know how you would go about launching a predator offshore. Then there's the issue of aiming it. How would you know you're aiming it at a bad guy? Finally, there's the issue of the hostages, if you start using a robot to kill people, it may launch a rocket and kill everybody, including the hostages.

I think it makes more sense to capture the pirates and put them in jail.

This is a cost benefit issue, if the guys who become pirates see it's not worth the risk, they'll stop doing it. The key is to stop paying off the pirates for the ships. It's very difficult to stop this business line when the boats and crews are ransomed the way they are. So there has to be a more muscular response, in the sense that pirates may have to be chased around onshore. But this can be done by paying the appropriate bounty. I've been around in the area, and it would be fairly easy to pay other Somalis to catch the bad guys. But none of this dead or alive bs. It's important to capture them alive, try them, and put them in jail.

Make it unprofitable. Ultimately unprofitable.

Why put our personnel at risk?

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates-1225817.html

I think Johann Hari said it well:

they're roving over the entire Indian Ocean now. They attacked a ship in Indian territorial waters a few weeks ago.

only going after bad guys like polluters :eyes:

Yeah, they're defending their territorial waters!!

Quick - tell another one! :rofl:

... but the lack of a functioning government and corporate exploitation are the key contributors to piracy.

Good job! :eyes:

and reward them with tax breaks. Got it.

link, please?

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Nice way to try a divert the discussion though.

How about we let the pirates be shark bait while at the same time NOT let bankers fleece people blind. Got it?

Sorry if it came across that way. Of course, this is moot because you're not seeing it, which is why I don't use ignore ;)

but pirates in the region are very poor people and have been a long time. They are doing what they can to survive in a country that has been raped by the capitalist system. The attitudes toward pirates is misguided. Keep it only toward those killing others.

The sympathy vote goes out the window ... I dont care how dam poor you are.

Send a message to the Somali pirates .... we see your boats ... we sink you no matter what your doing or what your there for.

Tell them there is a strict exclusionary zone that they are not allowed under any circumstances to cross to do so means your

boats will be considered hostile and sunk.

I don't love their methods, but realize that capitalism has driven them to where they are now.

the head pirates are pretty wealthy

Really no different than the drug dealers in the US. Levitt & Dubner explain the concept well in their book "Freakonomics".

The bigger question is where does the original power come from?

No different than the crack cocaine epidemic of the 80s. Somebody started that original pyramid operation and it sure as hell wasn't the crips & bloods, they were just the game players on the street. Gary Webb documented that pyramid scheme very well - then he got seriously depressed and shot himself (twice) in the head.

what is going on around here? Piracy and the taking of hostages is NEVER justifiable, I don't care how poor they are. :wtf:

Most don't rob and kill for a living. These pirates aren't entitled to ply their trade any more than a poor person here is entitled to break into your house and take whatever they like.

as I am concerned they can put them ashore about 500 miles from their coast with life jackets and a compass if they can swim to shore they can go free.

and they will take more hostages......

ships in international waters and kill Americans, that's okay.

Not to the OP, but just in general.

how Russia or China would deal with this issue.......

they do not kill them, they put them on a 6 foot dhing and give them 5 gallons of diesel between 8 men. 2000 miles from land, no radio.

Problem solved.

We have no reason to have a navy, if not to blow every Somali vessel out of the water on sight.

they would have help from other like minded ecological groups....you ever hear of these guys taking a factory trawler? or garbage scow?

shoot them on sight!!

It's simple.