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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:24 PM
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Breaking Dale Schultz will not vote for Walker's Union Busting Bill
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 09:24 PM by kpete
Source: Daily Kos

Breaking! Dale Schultz will not vote for Walker's Union Busting Bill

Dale Schultz, Senator from Wisconsin's 17th Senatorial District will not vote for Gov. Walker's Union busting Koch Bros. abomination. Not sure how many we need to stop this, but I heard a young lady say "we need two more" on the Qik feed.

Cheers were audible as the announcement was made. The people are still in the statehouse.
It's official, we need 2 more. 17th District stretches from SW Wisconsin up to Juneau.
Schultz must be a decent guy.

Updated by badger1968 at Sun Feb 27, 2011, 08:11:05 PM

All props to brandzel . . . "one of the uprising's 'leaders'" Lol. Fox is using his feed.
Power to the people. You think astro-turfed teabaggers would have the convictions to do this?
All in, we're gonna' win.
Two more! We need two more, my former Badgers tell us who to call!

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/27/950789/-Breaking!Dale-Schultz-will-not-vote-for-Walkers-Union-Busting-Bill



Mother Jones Confirmed
http://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/42020811451797504
Salon Confirmed
http://www.salon.com/news/the_labor_movement/?story=/opinion/walsh/politics/2011/02/27/wisconsin_rallies_just_get_bigger
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:25 PM
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1. Hoooooooooooooot!
and an Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
for fighting on a 50 state front!
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:26 PM
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2. wooooohoooooo !!...nt
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:30 PM
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3. Did Schultz make an official announcement?
Other than rumor, to whom did he announce this to?
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:30 PM
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4. Hurrah Dale Schultz!!!!!
You just became a Hero of the People.
Send the Corporate Lackeys packing.

Thank You for showing some backbone
and standing up for People instead
of Profit.

Bravo Sir!!!!!!
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:43 PM
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7. He is a member of
thr WI senate? And why I do not believe him (gop)
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:38 PM
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5. why I think he did it--
this is my home county. it's dirt poor and older -- lots of badger care and medicaid. it's biggest industries are the uw-platteville and the boscobel super-max prison.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:22 PM
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12. Thank you, it's nice to have some perspective.
Maybe he was given the ok to switch since it will take more than 1 turned vote to defeat the bill.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:11 AM
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44. the district covers more than one county
I don't consider it to be dirt poor. In fact, the Koch family there is fairly prosperous. Ironically enough, he is not related to me either.

Schulz has previously run against Kind (and lost). Perhaps he still has some ambition and knows that siding with Walker would be a bad move in Kind's district. Or depending how re-districting shakes out, he could be moved back into Baldwin's district where Richland Center was in the 1990s. In which case, he would not have a prayer if he sided with Walker. Watch for him to run again for Congress in 2012.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:54 AM
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52. thanks for the deeper insight/info
I admit that I haven't followed him closely -- since I'm in Madison. But, I was filled with hometown pride last night (even if he is a Republican). Yeah, "dirt poor" is hardly a qualifiable data-set, huh? I know that my home county routinely ranks among the highest on poverty indices in Wisconsin, because I work in the field. (well, not the field-field, that would be back home -- never mind). I do appreciate your info -- he does seem to be a career politician. Lord, he's been in office as long as I've been married!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:00 PM
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64. I am thinking you must be from Grant or Muscoda
or whatever county Muscoda is in. It has been a long time and I did not get down there much since I had no car. Maybe I underestimate the poverty since I lived in it, and did okay. I knew some people who were commuting from Viroqua to Richland Center to work at Kaul-Tronics. But Kaul-Tronics sorta seemed like prison or purgatory, that everybody I talked to had done some time there (and then got out). But I only made $5.4 an hour there back when that was more than minimum wage.

I really regret not running against him before moving to Iowa in 1998. I think he ran unopposed. I had a business for 7 years in Richland Center and tons of distant relatives in Sauk City and Baraboo, which were part of the district. I think, jokingly, that I could have beaten him if I could have gotten all my distant cousins to vote for me.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:42 PM
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6. K&R! n/t
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:07 PM
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8. Bravo for him?BS. If he's caving it's just because he knows he has to or he's toast in the next elec
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 09:08 PM by RBInMaine
tion. The best thing the protesters can do it DROWN the pukes in swing districts with calls, emails, and live visits telling them that they will work night and day to re-call them from office if they support this horrid thing.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:19 PM
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9. Mr. Schultz also confirmed that he had some great property in FL for Sale.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:20 PM
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10. 19-14 republican senate
with 1 defection it stands at 18-15, so we need 2 more to FAIL this bill.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:22 PM
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11. Thank you Mr. Schultz for doing the correct thing not the "Right" thing.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:28 PM
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13. it really easy
to do the right thing, when your political ass is on the line.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:39 PM
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23. The great challenge is
to know one's ass is on the line.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:05 PM
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29. Correct.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:51 PM
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36. +10
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PACmenDotOrg Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:38 PM
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14. great news!
Obviously this is great news! Now if just a few more will come to the other side...

Help me spread the word about the accomplishments of unions and share this link:

www.whatthefuckhaveunionsdonesofar.com
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:48 PM
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15. I just
don't believe him.
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:49 PM
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16. I'm sorry I'm so pessimisstic. But could it be a ruse?
If they get enough republicans to say they will vote against the bill, they could lure the Dems back to the capitol.
When the vote finally comes, all the repubs can then vote to pass the bill.
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:34 AM
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42. I agree.
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idrahaje Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:35 AM
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43. for all we know
they are reading this right now :)
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:17 AM
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46. I'm sceptical also
I'd feel better if the comment was being made from out-of-state.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:27 PM
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63. A ruse? The Republicans?
Are they not all, all honorable men? :rofl:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:50 PM
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17. Could this be the first leak in the dam? Could this grease the skids?
Could this open the floodgates? Could this be the straw that broke the camels back?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:06 PM
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30. May be a way to bale Walker's
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 11:07 PM by StClone
Quickly fading support as the Republicans peel off it may be a way to say he fought but lost by defections.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:54 PM
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18. Why believe him?
They lie.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:01 PM
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19. True... but it makes perfect sense.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 10:02 PM by walldude
Let the local Republicans vote it down so the Governor can claim he never budged, he stood his ground. Sounds like something they would work up in a back room somewhere.
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:09 AM
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37. Yes...
This is what I have thought. In fact, I have wondered if Walker will actually request senators NOT to support him so that he can get out of this corner he has painted himself into, and save face. And I bet he is doing this to people in the least secure Rep. areas. Just a thought.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:16 AM
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49. Exactly
The governor can then retreat without appearing to do so.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:02 PM
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28. I agree. My first thought was that this was a way to...
get the Dems to come back into the state.

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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:38 PM
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34. My thought, too. n/t
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:04 PM
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20. I'm not so sure this is confirmed...
This may have just been a rumor.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:30 PM
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21. I think this is why the threats for recall are not being voiced by the Dems now...
Since there are still chances that there are couple of more rational Republicans, that if they don't feel threatened heavily, might do the right thing. The Republicans are going to go after the Democrats right at the beginning, without much to lose.

Now, if all of the rest of the Republicans stick together and vote for this abortion, then those same people that we might try to appeal to to vote differently, will likely be the targets of recalls, since they are probably the ones that are in the close swing districts, where a recall threat carries more weight. Another like this would be Dan Kapanke, in Lacrosse, who collectively voted against Walker for governor in that district. He knows that he's on thin ice. Dems are publicly saying they are "holding off", so I think Kapanke knows the threat is there. Its whether he goes the route of Schultz or not which will determine what the Dems do.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:35 PM
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22. We should all send him our support! Hopefully his taking the first step will encourage others. nt
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:42 PM
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24. I don't know, you just can't trust conservanazis.
Wisconsin conservanazis are liars and hypocrites. So, I won't get my hopes up.

Prove me wrong, please prove me wrong.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:40 AM
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58. I can't prove you wrong, but Dale Shultz is one of the more moderate republicans.
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Corruption Winz Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:44 PM
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25. Truthfully, this is how the government is meant to run...
The government is meant to be afraid of the public, not the other way around.

Schultz has shown fear with regards to his political future due to the might of the people.

Couldn't get better than that.
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:54 PM
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26. I don't believe why
The WI Dems took a break and before they knew it - hello
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:55 PM
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27. K&R
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:14 PM
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31. Forgive Me For Sounding Dense, But I Thought The Fight Was Over
I thought the bill had already passed.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:21 PM
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33. It only passed in the Assembly, not in the Senate
There won't be a vote in the Senate until the Democrats return to the state, that hopefully won't happen until there are enough votes to defeat the bill.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:16 PM
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32. well.. now that the bill is known to be nothing but Larceny of public utilities, others might join
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:48 PM
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35. Maybe three R's will promise to vote against the bill, to lure the Dems back to
the state for a quorum, and then when the session begins, they wil decide to change their minds and vote for the bill.

The R's planned to trick the Dems into returning for negotioations and then announcing quorum and voting while the Dems were "negotiating" with the governor. Why wouldn't they just try another slimy trick to get a quorum since that one was exposed?
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:10 AM
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38. Wow.
That would be low. How LOW can they go?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:13 AM
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40. Lily Tomlin once said, "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."
That's how I feel about Republicans. No matter how low they go, I can't assume they will stop there--because they never have stopped at any nasty, unbelievably evil thing. They have always gone lower.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:11 AM
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39. It's political cover.The Rapublicans will let a few in sensitive
districts vote no for political cover. They'll still have enough votes.
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:27 AM
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41. Encourage These Rep Senators to Vote Against Walker's Union Busting Bill
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 01:28 AM by Chipster
Encourage these WI State Senators to join Sen. Dale Schultz in voting against Gov. Walker's union busting bill. badger1968 at Kos compiled this listing; I just put in the contact information.

To thank Dale Schultz:
sen.schultz@legis.wisconsin.gov

If you are a Badger and in their district call, email, write snail mail, knock on the doors of these Republican Senators:

Dan Kapanke, District 32, Capitol 316 South
(608) 266-5490 or (800) 385-3385
Sen.kapanke@legis.wisconsin.gov

Mike Ellis, District 19, Neenah
(608) 266-0718 or (920) 751-4801, in district
Sen.Ellis@legis.wisconsin.gov

Senator Luther Olsen, District 14, Capitol 123 South
(608) 266-0751 or (800) 991-5541
Sen.olsen@legis.wisconsin.gov

Senator Randy Hopper, District Number 18, Capitol 310 South
608) 266-5300
Sen.Hopper@legis.wisconsin.gov

Senator Alberta Darling, District 8, Capitol 317 East
(608) 266-5830
Sen.darling@legis.wisconsin.gov

Senator Sheila Harsdorf, District 10, Capitol 18 South
(608) 266-7745
Sen.harsdorf@legis.wisconsin.gov

Senator Robert Cowles, District 2, Capitol 118 South
(608) 266-0484 or (800) 334-1465
Sen.cowles@legis.wisconsin.gov

All are in districts carried by Obama and all are eligible for recall.

My thoughts are these things go better if you actually live in Wisconsin, but if you have the silver tongue and the inclination, then go for it!

Wisconsinites can look up their senator at: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/w3asp/waml/waml.aspx
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 10:12 AM
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60. Done! n/t
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:25 AM
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45. Schultz is a reasonable man who really stepped up!
My district is north of his, but I've heard him talk sensibly on public radio a number of times. And, it's great that he responded to the public input. Isn't that what democracy is for? Outstanding!!!
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Lastactiongyro Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:31 AM
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47. How do we know he's telling the truth?
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 05:59 AM by Lastactiongyro
Walker has already made it clear he will lie, cheat, twist arms to get the Dems back. This Senator that is now willing to "switch" votes is a Republican. Why should he be believed? Dems need to stay away this is a scam.
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:51 AM
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48. IT'S A TRAP!


My sense of this is that this is Walker's redoubled efforts to trick the 14 Democrats into coming back into WI. Over the next couple days they'll let two more GOP senators waffle on the issue and say they'll vote against it (presumably because they are in tight districts), leaving the GOP with too few votes in the Senate to pass it (or so the Democrats will think). The media will start trumpeting how the Democrats were successful in killing the bill and how they should now return to WI so that governing can resume. And as soon as they fall for the ruse... bam, quorom in the Senate, bill gets passed as is with the 3 GOP senators actually voting for it.

Sure there would be massive public outcry in WI if Walker were to pull something so slimy... but we already know he was willing double-cross the Democrats, media and public be damned. And we know he could care less if 100,000 or even more showed up to protest on the Capital. 'Let them eat cake' is his attitude. The damage would be done, the bill would be signed, the unions would be busted, the public-works would be sold to the Koch brothers in secret, no-bid sales, and Walker couldn't be recalled until next January, by which time he'll have been able to ride out the anger with the help of 10 months of media-buys in WI by the Koch brothers / Americans for Prosperity.

The State senators know the public is too slow / unorganized to start simultaneous recall efforts against them in their own districts, and the un-recallable Walker would be the lightning rod for the anger anyway if such a double-cross were to happen. So from their perspective, there's no downside to trying such an outlandishly devious ploy to trick the Democrats (again).
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:50 AM
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59. Yes, it is.
And if the 14 fall for it, it's all over.

Great first post - a downer, but accurate imho. Welcome to DU!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:10 PM
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62. It would be nice for Walker if he could bust unions.....
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 12:26 PM by AnneD
but I think what he really wants is that section of the bill that takes away the resources from the cabinet members and gives it to Walker to do with as he sees fit. In the name of 'budget deficit' he can sell WI streams of income...thus further stealing from WI. Like selling toll roads that belong to the state and generate income-to business for a one time sum. They say the business will repair etc, but you know they sell off the assets and pocket the money and resell it to some other chump. They did this in Argentina. The politicians sold the people down the river. I think he might give a bit to the union but remember....the GOP always look to enrich themselves and their friends.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4353655982817317115#
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:50 PM
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66. If it really is a trap and they pull that off, I'd fear a violent repercussion.
:scared:

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:28 AM
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50. This has gotten so hot, I'm not sure whether I belive him or not...
it's easy to say one thing and do something else. the R's in WI are a despicable lot, and I suppose they will not be in power come the end of next January, nor will Wlaker be in the governor's mansion...but the amount of damage they can do is monumental until that time.

I have no faith in the clowns at all...x(
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:38 AM
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51. why hasn't the MSM reported a word about this .....I've been watching all morning , zero, zip, nada
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:15 AM
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53. I think we need 5 to switch sides (in case one or two repugs are lying).

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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:22 AM
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54. DON'T TRUST THEM!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:04 AM
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55. I don't trust the GOP, they may say anything to lure the Dems back.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:11 AM
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56. recommend
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:14 AM
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57. That is fantastic news
Stand Fast Wisconsin
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 11:19 AM
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61. Come on WI Senators.....
just 2 more that will stand with the working people of WI.

I hope this Dale dude isn't lying.
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xloadiex Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:56 PM
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65. They are trying to cover their GOP asses
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 02:56 PM by xloadiex
because a recall is underway for the 8 GOP senators. They have to wait a year to recall Walker but the 8 can be recalled as early as this May and with way less signatures than it's going to take to recall Walker. This is what John Nichols from The Nation reported on Ed's radio show today.


http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/18/wisconsin-recall/
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