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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:41 PM
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Radioactive iodine 1,250 times limit in sea off Japan plant
Source: Straits Times (Singapore)

Mar 26, 2011
Radioactive iodine 1,250 times limit in sea off Japan plant

OSAKA - THE operator of Japan's disaster-hit Fukushima nuclear plant has detected radioactive iodine 1,250 times the legal limit in Pacific Ocean waters nearby, the nuclear safety agency said on Saturday.

In a test by the Tokyo Electric Power Company, 'radioactive iodine-131 at 1250.8 times the legal limit was detected several hundred metres offshore near reactor number one,' the agency official told AFP.

The readings were taken about 300m offshore, public broadcaster NHK said.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_649553.html



This is about ten times the level of radioactive iodine found in the tests a few days ago, and this test was done at three times the distance offshore (the earlier test was at 100 meters).
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:55 PM
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1. Not good.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:09 PM
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28. Bout time
to bury that som'bit*h.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:56 PM
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2. An admission that levels are increasing in Tepco talk nt
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:16 PM
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3. Will all the waters of the world die?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:17 PM
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4. They are certainly killing them and yet the peeps in power keep at it.
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:31 PM
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6. No both the USSR an US NAvy have dumped
radioactive materials into the ocean. The USSR dumped entire reactors with fuel into the sea. The Navy trace emitting amounts of secondary coolant.

In addition to this multimegaton nuclear tests were carried out over the oceans and even below the surface.

I assure you with all honesty that the health of the ocean system is not at risk.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:36 AM
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9. "I assure you with all honesty that the health of the ocean system is not at risk."
:rofl:

So says the anonymous poster who recently joined DU for almost the sole purpose of spreading pro-nuclear industry propaganda.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 11:16 AM
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11. LOL, I noticed the EXACT same thing yesterday.
Kinda hard to believe that's just some workaday guy/gal.
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:23 PM
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16. Nope I'm 34 and retired.
Consult for a few hours a month but that's it.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:25 PM
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32. oh so you're a 34 y.o. retired...what? Trust fund baby?
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:22 PM
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15. Vs.. OMFG Were aaaalll gonne die like "the road".. arm yourselves
buy MREs and prepare for the apocalypse. Fuck a pro agenda, I'm pro science. It does not take Steven Hawkings to realize that the accumulated dose from the incident is not going to kill the goddamn ocean.

You are just as anonymous as me.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:00 PM
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30. You don't know what anybody's purpose is any more than anybody else
I can't stand when people on DU look at somebody's join date as if it were a check on their validity as a poster.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:42 PM
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36. It's more than just the join date
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 10:47 PM by lutefisk
-recycled right wing talking points- in this thread it's the "the ocean can heal itself" talking point used by Hannity, Hume, Limbaugh, and others to minimize public reaction to the BP Gulf of Mexico disaster

-nearly 300 posts within a few days of joining aimed at discrediting anyone suggesting the situation with the Japanese nuclear facilities might, just possibly, be a teensy bit of a problem

-using classic message board tactics of one with the intent of spreading FUD (this is most often seen on forums related to stock trading, for obvious reasons)

I could say more, and provide links, but I promised myself I wouldn't waste any more time with this particular poster. I have never, in my ten years here, called anyone out until now. But, this issue is important, so I call bullshit on this one...

edit: okay, I'll add a few more- it's also the faux expertise, the attempts to quickly discredit any opposition...and please don't take this as any kind of "attack" on you, psychopomp
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:24 PM
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31. hahahaha, and which nuke energy company do you work for? What a crock of BS
YOU assure us? I'm sure Tepco probably assured its workers who are hospitalized after stepping in radioactive water 10,000x the limit that all was "safe," too.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:16 PM
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13. There's no risk of that
The very huge volume of water in the ocean makes that certain.

Even if you just shoved all six reactors into the ocean without further ado, all you would get is localized contamination.

Still, at those levels seafood and plant life will pick up a lot of radioactive molecules and will be unsafe to eat. How far will the coastal contamination spread? Only time will tell.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:27 PM
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5. If I had to pick any place on Earth to be contaminated, the open ocean would be my first.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 06:13 AM
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8. Good Point.
If I had to pick any place on Earth to be contaminated, the open ocean would be my first.

Because after all very few people or animals eat fish from the ocean.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 11:27 AM
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12. Problem is
The oceans and our atmosphere are divided by a thin line.

And we know the atmosphere is changing for the worse.

And the oceans are not what they used to be.
So any assurances from those telling us it will all be fine are to be shunned.
They lie. Or they are honestly just stupid as all get out.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:51 PM
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29. That's the coast actually
Continental shelf, etc.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:27 PM
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33. how about this? Instead of contaminating the planet, we clean up & go solar and wind?
Stop settling for a dead planet. :grr:
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:34 AM
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37. Not a desert, salt flats, or one of the poles, or maybe a deep cave or high mt.???
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:31 AM
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7. But 1250 X "nothing important" is still nothing important. Or so the
pro-nukers on Du would have us believe.

Panties in a twist over nothing.....

:sarcasm:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:44 AM
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10. I Ignore them
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:18 PM
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14. Oh, it's important
No one has been fishing in or near the exclusion zone. But these levels mean that they are going to have to start checking for radiation levels from harvested seafood and seaweed much further out.
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:24 PM
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17. I am preparing my mineshaft right now... Doomsday is upon us...
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:29 PM
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34. yeah, well if you lived near Fuku, you wouldn't be so glib
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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18. Sea radioactive near Fukushima/GE plant
Source: BBC

Levels of radioactive iodine in the sea near the tsunami-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant are 1,250 times higher than the safety limit, officials say.

The readings were taken about 300m (984ft) offshore. It is feared the radiation could be seeping into groundwater from one of the reactors.

-------------

The plant's operator says the core of one of the six reactors may have been damaged.

----------

Prime Minister Naoto Kan said the situation was "very unpredictable".

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12869184



Do we really need a disaster here to stop nuclear power? I hope not.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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19. I should hope not but ...
It has happened again. Here is a picture of the village election house near Chernobyl (what is left of it that is).



:dem: :kick:

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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20. Recommend
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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21. We can pay NOW
or pay later. What's it gonna be???
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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22. We can always get another sea.
Don't worry.








:sarcasm:
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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24. Anyone find it strange that this number,
1250 times normal, came out evenly. Not 1249 or 1251 for example. Now is this science or journalism?
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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27. my guess is that they rounded it off
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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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23. Way behind safety.. May be deadly to Workers..
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 01:51 PM by DreamSmoker
The Radiation levels are far worse than anyone has stated...
Today measurements at the site are steady at over 40REMS per hour..
This has accumulative effects.. That is why time is a factor...
This means that Workers who are put to work at the site will start to get very sick after only a few hours...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#42278544
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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25. Do you folks know why Chernobyl made a chill run down many spines
mostly of those that understood the language....because Chernobyl means Wormwood in the Ukraine.
And why Wormwood?...because of a prophesies in Revelations about the end times....Here at Revelations 8-11

<11> And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

The scary part to me is that It could do that if the wormwood were to get into the sea.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:45 PM
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26. The plant is not owned by GE it's owned by TEPCO
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 02:10 PM by Turbineguy
Once the warranty period runs out, TEPCO is responsible for the plant's operation and consequences of that operation. The Japanese government is responsible for regulations pertaining to the plant's operation and parameters. Contrary to what some around here seem to suggest, GE is not run by somebody like Rush Limbaugh and never has been.

The reactor design is 40 years old.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:32 PM
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35. yes, there always needs to be a disaster before anything changes
That's the way it is on the planet these days, unfortunately, with our global-military-industrial-nuclear-fossil fuel-corporate-congressional clusterfuck culture.
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