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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:20 AM
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Likely delay in handover to NATO
Source: MSNBC

A senior administration official says that NATO will not likely take command and control of the overall mission in Libya on Wednesday (as President Obama announced in his speech last night) -- that the full transition will likely be delayed.

The transition will be pushed further in the week, but "no more than a day or two," the official said, adding that this is "not unexpected" and "not unusual."

The official said that media reports of delays "are legit, but minor in the big picture," adding that the process "will take just a bit longer to play out."

"It is a major muscle movement," the official said.

Read more: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/29/6368414-likely-delay-in-handover-to-nato
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:22 AM
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1. Kinetic, even
"It is a major muscle movement"
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:24 AM
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2. My prediction is that none of the estimates are going to pan out.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-11 11:25 AM by dkf
Everything will drag on longer or be more expensive or be more difficult, just like Iraq. And pretending that moving it to NATO means we are not involved is a sham.
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:10 PM
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7. Exactly. Again, by the same person in the same wonderfulness
and modulated tones.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:29 AM
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3. Last week, weren't they saying it would happen last weekend?
:shrug:
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:34 AM
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4. Major muscle movement? right ...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:40 AM
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5. "It is a major muscle movement," the official said.
:eyes: is there some sort of training center where they go to learn how to say this weird stuff?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 04:05 PM
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17. Iraq turned into a major bowel movement
Give this one time.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:59 AM
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6. At least until we get all those marines off shore into the action. nt
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:12 PM
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8. Wonder how many Libyans they'll torture and what magazine
will carry the photos?
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:34 PM
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10. As disgusting as it is
The people guilty of those crimes are few among many. My Grandfather was a Marine - a Marine who did things that haunted him for the rest of his life (after WW II), but he never tortured an innocent. The vast majority of them, I think, aren't that different from the sort of man he was. One of the best I've ever known.

Most of those serving in our armed forces do not and would not take place in torturing innocents or even prisoners of war. There are some that do and will - just as there are some that do and will do terrible things no matter where you go. You probably realize this, I'm just saying it for clarification. We can't paint them all with the same brush. I have faith that most of our armed forces have integrity and compassion.
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:12 PM
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15. I was in Vietnam. I saw things. I'm not as optimistic as you as to
the participation, both active and passive. But no sense talking about it.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:29 PM
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9. More time to pound them into rubble?




Bring the rain





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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:35 PM
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11. a "major muscle movement." What the heck is that supposed to mean?
Article doesn't say... :shrug: Does it mean that we are "muscling NATO because they are reluctant or is the US being muscled in some way by NATO?
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:00 PM
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12. I just told you....our AF is the muscle...'US gunships blast Gaddafi's troops'
US gunships blast Gaddafi's troops
Tue Mar 29, 2011 10



The US has used AC-130 gunships and A-10 Thunderbolt tankbusters against Moamar Gaddafi's troops in Libya, the Pentagon has confirmed.

Vice Admiral Bill Gortney confirmed the use of the ground attack aircraft this morning but denied the US was directly supporting rebel fighters.

Unlike the long-range guided missile attacks that have targeted command centres and anti-aircraft defences, both aircraft are designed for close-range assaults against ground troops.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/29/3176341.htm?section=justin
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:03 PM
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13. "A major muscle movement"? WTH? nt
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:10 PM
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14. I don't see the difference
I still don't see what difference it makes whether NATO is in charge or not. If you read the comments in the foreign press articles about NATO involvement in Libya right now, you will see, "U.S. Forces" this and "U.S. Forces" that.

Just a bunch of doublespeak.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:33 PM
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16. Not surprised.
There was never a real intention to hand it over to NATO.
We will still be calling the shots next year when this debacle drags into year 2.
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