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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:18 AM
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No end in sight to foreclosure quagmire
Source: MSNBC.com

Four years after a wave of rogue mortgage lending sent the U.S. housing market into the worst collapse since the Great Depression, the devastating flood of resulting foreclosures shows no sign of abating. In some ways, the problem is getting worse.

House prices are falling again, forcing more homeowners “underwater” — owing more than their house is worth. Lenders’ shoddy document practices have brought widespread court challenges, slowing the process and leaving millions of homeowners in limbo.

And the foreclosure crisis continues to weigh heavily on the fragile economy.

“Right now, it’s the second-biggest drag on the economy after the surge in oil prices,” said Moody's Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42881365/ns/business-personal_finance/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:18 AM
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1. recommend
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:37 AM
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2. Oh the joys of laizze-faire governance amid rabidly RW governance
featuring irresponsible fiscal policies, grossly unfair tax policies, and perpetual pre-emptive wars as the social safety net and fabric are to be dismantled to allow the MIC and coffers of the wealthy to be fully gourged. :patriot:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:44 AM
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3. Our Galtian overlords won't be happy until we are all renters
and every bit of savings we have has been extracted.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:47 AM
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4. And just who's getting foreclosed on now, eh?
I'd be willing to bet the majority of new foreclosures are "strategic". People with the means to keep paying their mortgage but realizing they're upside down and just walking away.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:48 AM
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6. 2 years of free rent too.
That is nothing to sneeze at. It probably makes up for a 5% down payment.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:59 AM
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7. 700,000 people a year have medical bill-related bankruptcies.
I get what you are saying, as it is indeed happening, but the economy is so bad, and people are losing their health insurance at a time when their mortgage payments are escalating and while cancer, heart attacks, major depression all continue to be on the rise.

My household went bust in 2005-06, and we are just now getting back on our feet. If we had owned a home, we would have lost it. Kaiser Permanente was behind what happened to us.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:07 PM
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9. Unemployment. nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:51 PM
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11. My neighbors are walking out on their home.
They love that home, but the husband lost his job. Probably too nice a person. (Banking industry was employing him.)

They are moving in with family - them and the two kids. All going to live with the wife's parents.

It really sucks to be a human being in this nation.

But hey! WE GOT OSAMA!! America number one!

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wysingm Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:49 PM
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16. a big part of the problem I would say ...
still over 7 million fewer jobs than we had before the downturn
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:57 PM
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12. My boss had to do a short sale. Couldn't keep up with payments on his $1.2 M house.
He had been making enough money as an entrepreneur, but his third child was born with a bad congenital syndrome that makes keeping her alive very expensive.

He strategically took a mid-level management job with good benefits (i.e. health insurance) but that involved getting his income cut in half. His wife doesn't work, so they spiraled down and ended up losing their home to a short sale, with all of the fun bad tax consequences.

He moved closer to work to a more humble but perfectly adequate house, dealt with the ego thrash and is now doing fine.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:32 PM
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17. I know somebody personally who did exactly that
He was gainfully employed but simply walked away from the mortgage b/c he was underwater.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:47 AM
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5. Isn't it actually the collapse of home prices, not necessarily foreclosures that are the problem?
Why is this specifically pinned on foreclosures?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:02 PM
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8. "Vicious circle(s)" -- home prices declined, foreclosures increased driving prices lower. . . . . .

economy tanked, unemployment increased, home prices declined, people lose confidence, home prices decline, foreclosures increase, suicides increase, people with no insurance get sick and lose home to foreclosure, on and on and on.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:35 PM
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10. The glut of foreclosures is a key driver of the price declines.
REO is pushing down the rest of the market, and it's getting worse. This is the "shadow inventory" problem that many warned about. Now that the banks have been able to re-capitalize, they can start foreclosing in force. Woohoo, taxpayer funded bailouts to financial fraudsters.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:52 PM
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18. Foreclosure is a problem for the family that loses a home. Declining prices are both bad and good.
Bad for people who need positive equity, good for people who are in the market to buy a home.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-the-young-theres-a-silver-lining-in-the-housing-bust/2011/05/06/AFBZeQTG_story.html
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:58 PM
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13. I wish you had used a story referencing that the
Edited on Mon May-09-11 12:58 PM by truedelphi
Real forces behind the major dive this nation has been in are the very people at the top.

Rather than using an article citing how the "lenders" brought about the collapse of the economy.

It was actually the "lenders" in collusion with Wall Street forces, who went out and made the gambling bets against the housing market, the derivatives, the CDO's and CDS' etc that brought about the economic piece of shit pie we are all facing right now.

Somehow the lenders-in-collusion-with Wall Street all got bailed out. Either from the Geithner/Bernnake/Paulson Bailouts, or through their own Golden Parachutes. The one person in jail for his wrong doing - Maddoff. Everyone else is still leading the good life, and one of those leading a good life is doing so just down the hall from the Oval Office. (lil Timmy Himself.)

There were not enough "liars mortgages" on a dozen galaxies to cause the type of massive catastrophic calamity that our nation and the world faces right now.

And in June, it will be even worse.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:28 PM
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14. I wonder if this will make it into the "Too Big to Fail" movie coming out.
Watched the trailer last night, not sure how to take it.


OTOH, everyone should be required to watch "Inside Job".
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wysingm Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:37 PM
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15. In the deep ...
Edited on Mon May-09-11 02:25 PM by wysingm
I imagine a lot of people lose there homes because they are unable to refinance their higher rate mortgages and take advantage of low rates due to a collapse in their home value...

and,

because they’re restricting the supply to owner-occupants and not investors.

That strategy isn’t working...
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