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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:37 PM
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Sexual orientation is a choice, says BC Conservative leadership candidate
Source: The Globe and Mail

The BC Conservative’s leader-designate John Cummins has made headlines for suggesting that sexual orientation is a choice that does not require specific protection under the Canadian Human Rights Act.

In comments to Victoria’s CFAX radio, subsequently reported by the Victoria Times Colonist, Mr. Cummins said he voted against adding sexual orientation as a ground for discrimination under Canada's Human Rights Act when he was an MP in Ottawa.

... “I'm pro-life, I'm pro-traditional marriage, that's my view, I'm not a scientist,” he told the Times Colonist. “I'm not going to discuss that, they're personal issues, private issues.”

... A leadership convention is scheduled for May 28 and Mr. Cummins, currently the leader-designate, is the sole candidate.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-politics/sexual-orientation-is-a-choice-says-bc-conservative-leadership-candidate/article2020247/
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:40 PM
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1. Then John Cummins is saying he can have gay sex and enjoy it. nt
Edited on Thu May-12-11 06:40 PM by Incitatus
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:40 PM
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14. Wow, that is what he said, didn't he? LOL! But seriously ---
It remains to be seen if his 'personal' gets in the way of representing women, gays, whoever it is and I bet it will.

He's just said he doesn't believe in women getting a choice to *not* carry pregnancies to term, or same sex people getting a choice *to* marry or have equal protection under the law.

So his use of words is the worst kind of doublespeak. He's *against* too many choices to determine what *is* a choice!

What you want to bet he's against healthcare for the unborn, then the born, and for those in families not united by his 'choice.'

B.C. is going to have a time of it. Looks like the American Taliban are going to take over Canada.

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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:43 PM
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2. Fine.
Please advise us of the specific date and time when you chose to be heterosexual. We're waiting...
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:47 PM
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3. "I'm not a scientist." No shit, motherfucker!!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:05 PM
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18. He probably wears a bra and a dress in his spare time
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:47 PM
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4. Stupid stupid man - nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:50 PM
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7. proves the US doesn't have a corner on morons.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:47 PM
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5. So, he's making headlines with personal, private issues?
How does that work?
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:48 PM
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6. Of course there's a choice.
You can choose to accept who you are, and live a fulfilling, loving life,

or

You can choose to deny who you are, and live a miserable life.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:57 PM
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9. well said! n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:46 AM
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27. And probably make others miserable as well.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:52 PM
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8. and it's nobody's business what people choose.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:00 PM
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10. It's probably a choice he struggles with every single day.
I've found that a lot in religious conservative busybodies.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:21 PM
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12. Direct Hit!
"It may be for you, sir - for others of us, it is not"
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:19 PM
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11. You're not going to discuss what - the moment you became hetero?
How strange anti-gay bigots are.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:36 PM
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13. Even if it were a choice, so what? Religion is a choice and
Edited on Thu May-12-11 07:37 PM by NYC Liberal
presumably that is protected from discrimination in the Canada Human Rights Act.

Of course, it isn't a choice.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:12 PM
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19. Exactly. The "choice vs. nature" discussion is a red herring.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:25 AM
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25. Exactly!
I must have skimmed past your post before I commented below.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:40 PM
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15. No, being an ignorant dumbass is a choice...
And it looks like you've already decided on which side of the fence you're on.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:00 PM
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16. Maybe for some people it is.
I don't ever remember choosing. But if he feels he says it was a choice for him, I'll accept his word. And I hope he made a choice he can be happy with.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:01 PM
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17. unfortunately ignorance is not a choice
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 12:48 AM
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20. here we go... 'but but we're not like the American Right'... suuuurrre you aren't
liars! I wouldn't be surprised if they take the SAME tiresome anti-reality course in Canada...
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 12:50 AM
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21. Prove it by being gay for a year...
or STFU
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:14 AM
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22. If they're personal, private issues, then recuse yourself from legislating on them, dipshit. (nt)
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:58 AM
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23. CUMmins???
:rofl:
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:24 AM
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24. Religious belief is a choice and that's protected.
I'm not saying that sexual orientation is a choice but one way or another their argument falls flat.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:29 AM
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26. That's because Mr. Cummins obviously made that choice himself
He woke up one day and was attracted to men, so he was faced with the choice so he knows first hand. Yeah sure.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:56 AM
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28. Translation: My base and/or I are religious extremists.
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