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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:32 PM
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Ban on checking credit of job applicants clears (Calif.) Assembly
Source: Sacramento Bee

Legislation to ban most employers from conducting credit checks on job applicants cleared the Assembly today.

Assembly Bill 22 cleared the lower house by a vote of 42-28, with no Republican support.

The bill was proposed by Assemblyman Tony Mendoza, D-Artesia, who said that credit reports can be inaccurate or muddied by layoffs or emergency situations. They do not truly reflect whether a person is trustworthy and hardworking, he said.

... AB 22 would not apply if the job sought is involved in handling money, assets, or confidential information and the position is in a financial institution, is managerial, is for a sworn peace officer post, or is in the Department of Justice.

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/05/ban-on-checking-credit-of-job.html
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:35 PM
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1. Good!
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TimLighter Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:37 PM
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2. Those exemptions seem really broad
Edited on Thu May-19-11 07:38 PM by TimLighter
I'm having a difficult time thinking of an employment situation that wouldn't apply. Assets? Tools, materials, office supplies?
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:39 PM
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3. I think it's an "and"
Those conditions and, not or, in one of the designated categories. That limits it considerably.
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:42 PM
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4. I dont get the ref to Dept of Justice ... the feds set their own hiring rules irregardless of what
Cali passes
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:55 PM
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12. CA has a state agency with that name.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 08:56 PM by Gormy Cuss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Justice


and good for the assembly. Here's hoping it becomes law.
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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:57 PM
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5. my credit sucks
My husband was laid off for almost 2 years and in that time I was using creidt cards to make mortgage payments, buy groceries and purchase clothes for my kids. I worked hard to make sure the mortgage wasn't late and the kids had what they needed. We are back on our feet now, but it took it's toll. That being said, I have had the same job for 14 years. Part of that job is to prepare the bank deposits for a retail store. I handle all the cash (some days, it's pretty significant) in the store, audit cashiers and keep track of the store's cash on hand. I have never, in all the time I have been there taken anything (even time on the clock) that I didn't earn honestly. I guarantee you wouldn't know that about me from my credit report. I'd hate to think that any advancement in my career hinges on of a credit report.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:19 PM
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9. I understand. I know a Woman-Friend that had her identity stolen.
The thieves did numerous things...opened accounts etc, etc....and destroyed her credit.
She's worked for 2 years to try to straighten it out. So far, some little success BUT she has been turned down
several times for jobs that she knew that she was perfect for and suspects strongly it's because of her credit score.

Very unfair.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:13 PM
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6. It is a violation of our (every state) privacy "right"
and almost all jobs check your credit before they consider hiring you. Man those Banksters have us by the short ones.....
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:42 PM
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21. Be a crook, own a bank, and force millions to remain unemployed
Got to admit, it's a pretty carefree way of remaining in charge.


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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:15 PM
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7. I never understood that pratice...nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:00 PM
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14. It's done for background reasons, basically.
If somebody is applying for a job, but it turns out that their credit shows them living in 10 cities in 10 years, you can guess that they might not be sticking around. If it shows them half a million in debt, they're more of an embezzlement risk.

Now, businesses will just run "background checks", and somebody else will look at the credit report, and deliver the information, so really, the bill is kind of toothless.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:52 PM
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23. is that the progressive position you're taking?
are you a liberal?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 03:59 PM
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25. That's the cynical position I'm taking.
Feel-good legislation requires real teeth, such as fining employers $100,000, if, in the course of hiring somebody, *any* credit check is run, by the employer or any agent acting in the interests of the employer, runs a credit check.

I saw how the game panned out with FISA: the government made certain things illegal for employers to do, so external contractors did it instead.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:17 PM
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8. Way to go Tony Mendoza
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:31 PM
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10. Let's hope this becomes law and helps stop this vicious cycle.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 08:33 PM by ck4829
K&R.
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Stuttgart77 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:49 PM
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11. Does it include those going for a govt security clearance?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:02 PM
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15. Possibly still get checked for security clearance.
http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/Bills/AB_22/20112012/

"...the position of the person for whom the report is sought is a position in the state Department of Justice, a managerial position, as defined, that of a sworn peace officer or other law enforcement position, or a position for which the information contained in the report is required to be disclosed by law or to be obtained by the employer."

So, it might depend on what the clearance is for.
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:10 PM
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27. Cali would have no say in what the feds use for SC's
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:12 AM
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18. I wouldn't think so
Since there's an exception for "confidential" information. Plus, a security clearance is issued by the federal government agencies.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:05 AM
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19. I don't think CA grants security clearances do they?
US security clearances always include a credit check, and that's probably a good thing. (Bad credit doesn't mean you won't get a clearance, but lying about it does.)
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:51 PM
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22. California doesn't have jurisdiction over federal hiring practices
:hi:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:55 PM
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24. Right, that's why they can't influence security clearance decisions (nt)
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:59 PM
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13. Kick.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 08:59 PM by pinto
Bound to pass the Senate and be signed by Brown.

:thumbsup:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:09 PM
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16. Remember this when California is accused of not being "business friendly"
It would be a freezing snowing day in hell when something like this sees the light of day in Texas
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:56 PM
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17. YAYYYY!!!!!! I hate how you have to have flawless credit to get or do
almost anything these days. People who have bad credit these days are mostly just the victims of circumstances and do not have bad moral character. They, more than anybody else, NEED to be able to get jobs and insurance and checking accounts.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:19 AM
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20. As an aside to this,
never add your social security number to an employment application. If they ask, tell them that you respectfully decline to provide it without there being a job offer on the table. Tell them your reasons are for security purposes which is true. There are likely going to be several people with access to those applications and you have no idea as to their integrity.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:57 PM
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26. California is such a sane state. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:40 PM
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28. Oregon just did this last year...
Only give them permission to do so if they are handling financial issues/money on the job at a level that requires added checking for any employee.
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