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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:04 AM Original message |
Obama to AIPAC: 1967 borders reflect longstanding U.S. policy |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. There is really nothing here that the pro-Israel crowd should complain about.. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And while I normally poo-poo the idea of Obama as the "multi-dimensional chess player", I have to... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Are you suggesting that the US invade Israel? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. How progressive of you - what other countries do you want to invade? |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I share this view.. |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. I'm Sure Sharon Is Still "Alive" |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. That's what I had last heard, but that was years ago |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. 'The question of Sharon's whereabouts ..(does he still hold office) |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Sharon had disappeared from headlines for sometime |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Because it so out the ballpark to anyone paying |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. True.. his stroke certainly managed to affect that objective: permanent obscurity |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. There will be no bargaining. |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Peace Accords in Ireland and England once thought impossible |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Ireland never said England should not exist. |
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tootrueleft (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. Ireland said 'get the f**k off our land' so comparable in every sense... |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No the Palestinians say that Israel has no right to exist. |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I'm beginning to understand why there will never, ever be peace |
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tootrueleft (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. You think wrong. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I made a statement of fact not of thought. |
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tootrueleft (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Well then you suspect wrong. Its probably the response you originally deserved |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
78. But England did say that Ireland didn't exist. |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Israel was founded in part by terrorism - check your history |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Let's get rid of the states with an Islamic orientation. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. Irgun is a terrorist group sworn to the destruction of Palestine. |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Irgun does not exist . |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Some history: |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. It most certainly exists, it just changed its name. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Sharon can't hear anything. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. Great speech |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. This portion of the speech brough lots of applause and I though it was telling: |
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Iliyah (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The photograph |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Oh, I didn't see that yet- link by any chance? |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Probably this one: |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Ha! Oh man, I can't believe they let that one out. Love on the rocks! |
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dharmamarx (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I don't really see anything impressive about this speech. |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Replace Israel with a modern, secular, non special state. Call it Palestine. Done. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Israel is probably the most modern and secular state in the region |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not when they discriminate against non jews |
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Johnyawl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And replace Jewish law with what? sharia law? |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Note the word secular - means not based on religion of any sort |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Israel is a secular democracy |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Myth. No it is not. It gives special privileges to jewish religion and jewish ethnicity. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Let's get rid of all of the Islamic based nations first. |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No. People have a right to self determination, but should respect UN Rights for women for instance. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You quote the UN but seem to forget the UN set up Israel. |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. True. Under threat of jewish terrorism they did make the mistake of granting them a small piece of |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
59. Ask any Muslim how many "Islamic" based nations there are. They will all answer 0. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. What about Iran? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. For the people I know that live there they feel that the gov't |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. How about the Idea of a Japanese state or the idea of a Persian state |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Jewish people are NOT native to palestine. They are emigrants. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Your information is inaccurate |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. A preponderance of the jewish population, or their parents came from another country |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. You wrote that the vast majority of Israeli Jews come from Europe - that is false |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. If you would care to produce a census population profile you will find I am right. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I promise you are wrong |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. What an offensive post nt |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. lmao... n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Japanese is the nationality of citizens of Japan... |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Ethnic Jews and converts make up the Jewish people |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. The nationality of Israel is Israeli, not Jewish... |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. No ,I do not think you get the concept |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yr confusing nationality with ethnicity |
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King_David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I don`t think you get it. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I get it just fine. Yr getting confused about nationality |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
60. Like what? |
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dharmamarx (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. We call the US "secular" even though it has a serious problem with Christian fundamentalism. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Replace jewish law with democratic law. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. The government isn't run via "Jewish law" |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
51. Oh, My Goodness |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. A Haaretz editorial, and some relevant background history are in this other thread |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
17. Great strategy for Obama... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Netanyahu 'pleased' with Obama's AIPAC address |
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iamtechus (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Has Netanyahu apologized to our president yet? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. Good and important speech. |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
74. "The Speech Obama Should Have Given to AIPAC" |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Obama getting attacked from all directions for this speech |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. An attack? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
81. kr |
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