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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:12 PM
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White House: Bush Erred on Mustard Gas
From AP via Newsday

WASHINGTON -- Once again, President Bush misspoke on a weapons issue, telling the nation that 50 tons of mustard gas were found in Libya -- twice the amount actually uncovered.

The White House moved quickly Wednesday to correct the record, with press secretary Scott McClellan seeking out reporters to point out the mistake. The president should have said in his Tuesday night address and press conference that 23.6 tons of mustard gas were found in Libya, instead of 50 tons, McClellan said.

Bush used the 50-ton figure twice.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:14 PM
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1. 50 tons, 23.6 tons, what's the difference?
Chimpy was probably irritated when informed of his "error."
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 08:39 AM
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45. The 27 tons that will turn up on a turkey farm in Iraq?
:shrug:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:16 PM
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2. I thought it was in Turkey, on a farm
Or on a turkey farm, somewhere.

He didn't actually say where it was. The implication he wanted to get out there, I think, was that it was found in Iraq, since that was the topic at hand when he mentioned it.

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:24 PM
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7. He said last night it was on a turkey farm
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 06:27 PM by Angel_O_Peace

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9284969%5E28737,00.html

<snip>
By the way, they found, I think, 50 tons of mustard gas, I believe it was, in a turkey farm, only because he was willing to disclose where the mustard gas was.

<snip>
See, I happen to believe that we'll find out the truth on the weapons. That's why we've sent up the independent commission. I look forward to hearing the truth, exactly where they are. They could still be there. They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:56 PM
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12. He says he looks forward
to hearing the truth! I DO TOO! Only way we're going to hear the truth is if we get a president with some BRAINS! Not this "shit-for-brains" that we have now!
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:22 PM
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24. Do they have turkey farms in Libya?
I thought turkey was an American thing. I didn't see any turkey when I was in the middle east.


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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:27 PM
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28. you're right
It's too hot and dry to grow turkey's in the desert.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:56 PM
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31. It sounds like Chimpy's "ranch" in Texas, which is really a pig farm
that doesn't even raise hogs anymore - it doesn't function in any useful way anymore.

It must be THAT kind of turkey farm in Libya - a faux farm.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:46 PM
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37. Here's your Lybian turkey farm...
Libya's nukes were bred on turkey farm

Press Trust of India

Washington, March 2: The small desert ranch near Tripoli was described as a turkey farm, but there were no birds in sight when a group of US weapons experts visited six weeks ago. Guided by Libyan officials, the Americans entered a plain metal barn to discover the farm’s true purpose: a hiding place for hundreds of chemical bombs.

Inside the barn were stacks upon stacks of wooden boxes, each containing a single torpedo-shaped bomb. The olive-green weapons were specially designed to spread deadly mustard gas and nerve agents that were stored at another site, said two senior US officials familiar with the surprise discovery.

<snip>
One nuclear expert familiar with the findings said Libya had purchased a ‘‘virtual turnkey facility’’ in which foreign suppliers and experts would not only supply the parts but also assemble and test them. On Monday, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, an independent agency, announced the destruction in Libya of about 3,000 chemical bombs and warheads—Libyan’s entire arsenal, the agency said.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=28966

I only wish I could make this sh** up instead of actually finding it on the Internet.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:10 AM
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40. mangles 'turnkey' in to 'turkey'. And again, no chem only empty shells nt
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:47 AM
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44. libya's an oil producing country, isn't it?
well, to get the oil, maybe they start with turkeys?



Gory refuse, from a Butterball Turkey plant In Carthage, Missouri, will no longer go to waste.. Each day 200 tons of turkey offal will be carted to the first industrial-scale thermal depolymerIzatIon plant, recently completed In an adjacent lot, and be transformed Into various useful products, including 600 barrels of light oil.


http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2003/Anything-Into-Oil1may03.htm
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:27 PM
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27. Mustard on turkey?
Oh, a turkey farm where NO mustard gas was actually found...that's what he MEANT to say...
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:52 PM
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30. Whatever it is, I just hope and pray
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:52 PM by Kool Kitty
that they start investigating these terrorist turkeys. Who knew that they were so technologically advanced?
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nolajazz Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:45 PM
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35. LOL
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:23 PM
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16. This is the first time I've heard "LIBYA"
ferkrisakes. I couldn't watch, never have been able to watch/listen to an entire g/whoosh episode .. but the buzz on the DU grapevine seemed to suggest it was found in Ira*.

The M gas in Libya which Libya led the 'detectives' to??? :wtf: .. I'm gonna write a book in my next life.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:25 PM
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26. I didn't hear him say Libya...what 's going on here? n/t
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:57 PM
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36. I didn't hear much .. can't stand to watch/listen
but from the print story ..
..snip..
"Colonel Gadhafi made the decision, and rightly so, to disclose and disarm for the good of the world," Bush said, referring to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi. "By the way, they found, I think, 50 tons of mustard gas, I believe it was, in a turkey farm, only because he was willing to disclose where the mustard gas was. But that made the world safer."

The second time, Bush was using the example of the Libyan mustard gas disclosure to suggest that weapons of mass destruction could still turn up in Iraq. Though Bush's prewar allegations of Saddam's alleged weapons were his main rationale for going to war, none has yet been found.

"They could still be there," Bush said Tuesday of the Iraq weapons. "They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm."
..snip..

If it wasn't 50 tons, who knows if it was a turkey farm .. or mustard gas for that matter.
g/whoosh can't find his rump with both hands is all I know.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:17 PM
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3. will he admit making THAT mistake?
since he claimed last night that he couldn't think of any mistakes he's made...
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:20 PM
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4. he's said. . .
that he's not a "fact checker" and he has 20 nobel laureates and a few thousand reknowned scientists to back him up.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:23 PM
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6. Bwahahahahaha!
Did 'Secretary of State Rumsfeld' tell him to say that?

(he referred to 'Sec of State Rumsfeld' last night, too...)

I think he was drunk again.

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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:26 PM
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19. Doesn't take a Nobel laureate
to determine that he is not a fact checker.
It should be apparent that he is in fact, a fact flipper.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:21 PM
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5. He has a history of estimating high on these matters
Misoverestimating.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:25 PM
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17. "Misoverestimating"
I love it!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:35 PM
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32. he freaking has Korsakoff's. that's the only explanation.
alcohol-addled brain.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:42 PM
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8. CNN: 50 tons of Bud affected Bush's brain....
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 07:43 AM by Skinner
http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH

Study: Heavy social drinkers show brain damage
Wednesday, April 14, 2004 Posted: 4:03 PM EDT (2003 GMT)


WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Heavy social drinkers show the same pattern of brain damage as hospitalized alcoholics -- enough to impair day-to-day functioning, U.S. researchers said Wednesday.

Brain scans show clear damage, and tests of reading, balance and other function show people who drink more than 100 drinks a month have some problems, the researchers said.

"Socially functioning heavy drinkers often do not recognize that their level of drinking constitutes a problem that warrants treatment," the researchers, at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee and the University of California San Francisco, wrote in their report.

"The enrollment criterion for heavy drinkers was the consumption of more than an average of 100 alcoholic drinks per month for men over 3 years before the study (80 drinks for women)," they wrote in the report, published in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research.


EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:54 PM
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10. Your link doesn't work.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:56 PM
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11. readmylips
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.

DU Moderator
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:50 PM
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9. Yeah, but the turkeys are still hiding the other 26.4 tons!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:07 PM
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13. I thought he said 50 pounds
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:14 PM
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14. I thought he said 50 megatons.
And it was a mushroom farm.

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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:15 PM
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15. I love it….” McClellan seeking out reporters”….
McClellan….hey guys…uhhh…can ya come over here for a sec…

Guys….ya…whatcha got…

McClellan….<whisper whisper>

Guys….HOLY JEEBUS MOTHER OF CHRIST…what’s this make scott??? I’ve lost count on how many times you’ve had to correct your boss scott….

McClellan….geewiz guys…give ‘em a break….there was some static in his earpiece on that item….

Guys….ya tellin’ me there’s something up there that can be effected by static??? <laughter>

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:26 PM
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18. Bwahahaha! A turkey farm in Lybia????? LOL. I don't think so...
The man is brain dead.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:32 PM
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20. he should have taken another 30 second pause.
wage peace ----it's cheaper in the long run
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:37 PM
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21. I thought * rehearsed his speech all day so he's do good???
I'm sure it wasn't memorized, so....can't he read the tele-prompter? Or was this a fatal mistake by his speechwriter????

God forbid it was the speechwriter's fault! Keep your ears open for somebody FIRED!!!!!
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:41 PM
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22. Fired? Oh, hardly.
This is typical AdminSpeak. Throw out a number in public, correct it later in fine print.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:11 PM
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23. They moved it to Syria....
it's time to invade!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:24 PM
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25. They moved the turkey farm?
Or just the turkeys?

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:36 PM
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29. Can we send Boo$h
to a turkey farm. I wonder if he can talk turkey?
Georgie, how do you pronounce: gobble, gobble?
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:36 PM
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33. Maybe
God told him to err
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:43 PM
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34. And They Picked on Gore?
'nuff said...
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:53 PM
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38. Why didn't the media find the error themselves?
They just take anything Bush says as fact!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:07 AM
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39. OMG! Too funny. You guys are great
I've been laughing my way down this thread! Lots of sparkling wit & dripping sarcasm here at the DU!!!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:42 AM
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41. Yet another lie.
:kick:
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:17 AM
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42. Give him a break
He was just rounding the figure up to the largest number he could imagine.

- B
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:42 AM
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43. "Cocaine's a hell of a drug" - Rick James 2004
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:00 AM
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46. He knows what he is doing
fifty tons said twice in connection with the words "terror" is what will stick in the minds of the simple and unaware people.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:15 AM
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47. Confabulation: a symptom of memory loss
Confabulation is a memory disorder that may occur in patients who have sustained damage to both the basal forebrain and the frontal lobes, as after an aneurysm of the anterior communicating artery. Confabulation is defined as the spontaneous production of false memories: either memories for events which never occurred, or memories of actual events which are displaced in space or time. These memories may be elaborate and detailed. Some may be obviously bizarre, as a memory of a ride in an alien spaceship; others are quite mundane, as a memory of having eggs for breakfast, so that only a close family member can confirm that the memory is in fact false.

It is important to stress that confabulators are not lying: they are not deliberately trying to mislead. In fact, the patients are generally quite unaware that their memories are inaccurate, and they may argue strenuously that they have been telling the truth. Neither should confabulation be confused with false memory syndrome, the phenomenon whereby otherwise normal individuals suddenly "remember" supposedly-repressed incidents of childhood abuse or other trauma. Confabulation is a clinical syndrome resulting from injury to the brain.



http://www.memorylossonline.com/glossary/confabulation.html
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:31 AM
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48. Turkey gas on a mustard farm....yeah that's it.
Pathetic.
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