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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:18 AM
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Udall wants changes to Patriot Act
Source: Durango Herald

U.S. Sen. Mark Udall will vote against extending the Patriot Act this week unless Congress makes several key changes, he said Tuesday.

Udall, D-Colo., voted against the original Patriot Act in the days after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

“I thought then that it was being rushed through the Congress,” Udall said. “Ten years later, I have the same concerns.”

The law gives police and spy agencies broad surveillance powers, and Udall is especially concerned about three provisions that soon expire but could be extended for four years.

Read more: http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20110525/NEWS01/705259919/Udall-wants-changes-to-Patriot-Act
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:03 AM
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1. I want changes to it also...
Like its repeal.

-Hoot
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:14 AM
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4. And I Want the Jerks Who Wrote and Voted for It Put In Jail as Traitors
and if that means some Democrats jailed, too, oh, well!
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:34 PM
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15. That will mean most Democrats, not some
Both parties continue to support this horrible bill.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:54 PM
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24. Fuck 'em all!
"By their fruits you'll know them..."

A 'D' next to their names is no defense at all.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 06:38 PM
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32. You expressed my sentiments.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 06:19 PM
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31. I don't have a problem with that
Jail is MEANT to be a deterrent
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:53 PM
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23. Completely agree!
Fuck the spineless goons that put us in this predicament.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:30 PM
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39. +1000 for treason charges
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msider Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 04:11 PM
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25. Repeal
...complete and total
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:09 AM
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2. I wish more Democrats would take this stand.
They won't, of course, as they don't want to be seen as "weak on terra" as per the Party Bosses.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:29 PM
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13. the dems are weak on spine if they don't shove osama's bullet-riddled corpse..
in the face of any idiot that trots out the weak on terror canard.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:10 AM
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3. If ever there were a time for
a "secret hold" or a filibuster, this is types of thing i would want it used on.

But I forget. Democrats Don't do that. They just vote, instead of using any parliamentary trick they can to delay, obfuscate, and otherwise prevent legislation from passing. Thats only for Republics.
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michunionman Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:04 PM
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19. I see what you are saying!
we have a repub filibustering it now from what i have heard to stop the Patriot Act

i dont like the filibuster

but i kinda hope he succeeds..
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:22 AM
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5. Meet the new boss...
"Both presidents Obama and Bush keep their interpretations of the Patriot Act secret, and although Wyden has been briefed about the administration’s legal position, he’s not allowed to discuss it in public."
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:50 AM
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6. Our Colorado Senator!
Proud to have a senator with a backbone.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 12:00 PM
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7. No more fucking patriot act.
10 years of a fear-based police state is enough. Over 1,000,000 Americans have had their records spied on by the government with no warrant.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:05 PM
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40. Sorry, but 10 years of a fear-based police state IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.
The Powers That Be want you to be afraid, they want you to be cowed and they do not want you to question authority or even imagine you have a voice. The "Patriot Act" is institutionalized American-branded fascism wrapped up in red, white and blue packaging.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:17 PM
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41. Absolutely true!

The fascists have been tightening their grip on the levers of the state since the puppet Reagan was president. Our form of governance is known among political scientists as "Inverted Totalitarianism". <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism>. I recommend giving this a read to get a handle on what is occurring...
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:15 PM
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8. Recommended.
:kick:
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:39 PM
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9. Reminder: there was one lone dissenting vote against the so called Patriot Act and that was from
Russ Feingold. The final vote was 99-1.
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michunionman Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:02 PM
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18. where do you
find the info on things like that?

was that this year or originally?

sorry just looking for info lol
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 04:31 PM
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26. I stand corrected. The senate roll call vote on the Patriot Act in 2001 had one not voting, Mary
Landrieu of LA. The final vote was 98-1 with Russ Feingold the lone dissenter. See link below.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00313
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:55 AM
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42. I thought the same thing but he was in the House at the time.
66 House members opposed. Udall was one of them. 63 of those nays were dems.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:03 PM
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10. Good! News! & a great American family there! nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:14 PM
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11. Dump it -- it's fascism -- we should stick with the Constitution -- !!
Edited on Wed May-25-11 02:14 PM by defendandprotect
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:27 PM
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12. Second the motion.
Call the question.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:32 PM
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14. I thought Russ Fiengold was the only vote against it in 2001
Who were the others?
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:56 PM
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17. You are correct. Russ Feingold was the sole dissenting vote that was tallied at 99-1.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:53 PM
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16. Now all we need is a few hundred more like him,
plus someone in the White House to sign off on it and maybe we can get back to our old quasi-legal system of invasion of privacy & rights violations.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:28 PM
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20. Can he filibuster it? Or will it have more than 60 votes?
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:28 PM
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21. Proud to claim him
as one of my senators!


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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:02 PM
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37. Me too!
Udall is not only my Senator, but was my Congressman when he was in the House. He's a good guy.

Wish I could say as much about our other senator. Bennett should never have been elected.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:33 PM
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22. Mark Udall for Senate Majority Leader!
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 04:54 PM
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27. Senator Mark Udall understands the Constitution.
Most elected leaders have shown they do not.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:14 PM
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28. Too bad our constitutional law professor president doesn't understand the Constitution.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:32 PM
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36. +1
I'm afraid so or he just thinks that it's toilet paper.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:24 PM
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29. So... We are having a huge nonsensical, factually-challenged argument over the debt ceiling
...Yet I bet the media will let a reissuance of the Patriot Act fly right under the radar with no coverage or debate at all.
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Corruption Winz Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:30 PM
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30. Changes?
Honestly, it's horrible. Making changes to a law implies that it's almost right, but needs to be refined. This law is poor, period. Nothing about it works and it needs to be scrapped. End of story.
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OverBurn Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 06:41 PM
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33. Repeal The Whole Damn Thing!
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:01 PM
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34. Strongly recommend
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:20 PM
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35. It should be renamed the "enhanced surveillance act" or similar.
I hate the horrible Orwellian name.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:25 PM
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38. Let the patRiOT Act ROT! K&R n/t
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