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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:15 PM
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Robert Gates: Kucinich move on Libya 'dangerous'
Source: Politico

SINGAPORE – Defense Secretary Robert Gates, one of the administration’s most bipartisan figures, on Friday blasted a House resolution calling for the U.S. to withdraw from the NATO campaign in Libya , warning that the move would undermine alliances and military operations.

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, issued a statement saying: “Secretary Gates believes that for the United States, once committed to a NATO operation, to unilaterally abandon that mission would have enormous and dangerous long-term consequences.”

A surprising number of Republicans have expressed support for the resolution by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio). The Associated Press said approval of the measure would be “a major embarrassment for President Barack Obama.”

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said at a news conference on Thursday that the issue will be resolved within days. POLITICO reported that House Republicans are drafting alternative language.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56110.html
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:27 PM
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1. If Republicans have an opportunity to embarrass the president, they will,
but maybe there are times when the president should be embarrassed.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:33 PM
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2. And yet they pulled Kucinich's resolution from consideration
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:49 PM
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3. evidently some things are more important
than embarrassing the president. Feeding the MIC beast is near the top of that list.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:07 PM
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7. Bingo! nt
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:55 PM
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5. I don't think it took many of "they" to do that.
Likely many would have preferred the presidential embarrassment, but it would also be a dilemma for others.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:50 PM
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4. Maybe, just maybe, the US can show some self-restraint in military adventurism
"...for the United States, once committed to a NATO operation, to unilaterally abandon that mission would have enormous and dangerous long-term consequences."

Hey prez, next time, check with your "friends" in congress before jumping into the deep end.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:09 PM
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8. Exactly
Hey Org, how's it going? Long time since the old AOW forum. :hi:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:20 PM
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10. Indeed!
AOW... now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time... </kenobi>

Let's hurl a few PMs about, shall we?
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:22 PM
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11. You bet (nt)
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:07 PM
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6. If the U.S. is only playing a "limited role" in the NATO operations in Libya,
how in the world could our withdrawal be "dangerous"?

Pentagon stresses limited U.S. role in Libya: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/31/501364/main20049242.shtml

I think we are all simply being snookered. Kudos to Kucinich for ALL his efforts.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:46 PM
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24. Because.
On 5/27 HRC said that the US was still flying 1/4 of the sorties over Libya, including refueling and intelligence. She didn't say "only refueling and intelligence."

1/4. People keep saying that they're doing limited intelligence, logistics, UAVs, quoting with misunderstanding what Obama told Congress on 5/20. They really want us to understand that we're *only* doing those things, even though Obama, Clinton, nor Gates have ever said that. Because if we're actually doing the kinds of things that violates the WPA, when all of a sudden they either have to argue for a super-imperial presidency or the Trojans are forced to say something bad about their Hector.

In a true democracy, the people, legislators, and courts all support their leader, whatever the laws, whatever the leader's actions. In obedience one finds liberty, in subjection one finds independence.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:12 PM
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9. 'Dangerous' to whom, Bob? Kucinich?
I remember Paul Wellstone. He also opposed wars and warmongers.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:09 PM
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22. the people profiting off the war, duh
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:28 PM
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12. What was dangerous to the United States was its entry in the first place.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:29 PM
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13. "one of the administration’s most bipartisan figures"
And here we see an example of how 'centrist' moves to the right. Gates is a neocon, he's not bipartisan at all.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:02 PM
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15. Notice the story is from Politico. One of the nations most "bipartisan blogs".
:rofl:
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:51 PM
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19. probably meant: he doesn't care who pays him, reptiles or dinos -
as long as they keep the war wagon rolling; kinda like mercs.

showed us the current Admin - which kept Gates on for the duration - in their true form, from the get go.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:31 PM
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14. The GOP is bought and paid for, and one of the owners is the military-industrial complex.
The spigot of corporate welfare has to keep on flowing!
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John_Adams Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:07 PM
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16. That dang constitution...
it always seems to be an issue for these guys.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:08 PM
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17. For the President of the United States to unilaterally start a mission w/o Congress on board has eno
For the President of the United States to unilaterally start a mission w/o Congress on board has enormous and dangerous long-term consequences!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:29 PM
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18. Kucinich is an ass.
Always has been. His Dept. of Peace proposal is the single stupidest political proposal I've heard in my lifetime.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:03 PM
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20. You love him, admit it.
You certainly never pass up a chance to talk about him.

It's ok, we're here for you, little trooper. :hug:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:06 PM
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21. CIA and senior Bush Mob thug placed as a "stay-behind" in Obama admin is dangerous.
Even out of office, doing his best against constitutional democracy.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:28 PM
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23. no... Robert Gates is Dangerous
and the occupations and invasions in the last decade prove it... the irony.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:02 PM
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25. Career BushCo fixer: Democracy is dangerous!
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Vinee Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:38 PM
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26. Try to think of it as 77 days, not 11 weeks. nt
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