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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:41 AM
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Outside Weiner’s office in Queens, voters predict lewd photos won’t kill his political career
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK — Really, incredibly, stunningly stupid.

Voters in Rep. Anthony Weiner’s home district in Brooklyn and Queens shook their heads in disbelief about the news that Weiner tearfully admitted to posting lewd photos of himself to women online. But most said Monday he would — and should — politically survive, saying they had voted for him before and would again. The seven-term congressman may have done something dumb, voters outside his Kew Gardens district office, said, but it wasn’t criminal.

Weiner’s confession to lying about posting a photo of his crotch on Twitter had been blown “way out of proportion,” said Ralph Sepulveda, a 58-year-old film editor.

Weiner’s record of fighting for his district balances his poor personal judgment, Sepulveda said.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/outside-weiners-office-in-queens-voters-predict-lewd-photos-wont-kill-his-political-career/2011/06/07/AGLg0sKH_story.html
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:52 AM
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1. Oh, this is gonna piss off a lot of rightwingers, and a lot of people here at DU
Who would've thunk it that his constituents, those who actually VOTE for him, don't have a problem with this stupid story.

His constituents, even his detractors, don't believe he'll have a problem in the Mayoral race.

I have to believe he's sorry for this stupid stunt, but I also believe it will make him a stronger, better, more disciplined congressman, and I believe his constituents believe that, too.

I agree with his constituents: he should NOT resign. Period.

So...can anyone tell me how Breitbart got his hands on so many of Rep Weiner's photos? That's what I'd like the media to focus on now...after they broadcast that his constituents don't give a good goddamn about his "scandalous" tweets. At least they're sticking by him when other Democrats, here and in Congress, refuse to.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:39 AM
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3. You make an excellent point.
How in the fuck did Britebart attain so many of these photographs?

I would love to see a support rally for the Congressman outside his office grow to unimaginable proportions.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:31 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Prolly because FOX has this country wired too...
Just like in England.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:01 AM
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45. That's what I think...
...of course the dirt had to be there for them to find, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts they are hacking phone lines here just like over there.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #6
102. Because the internet is set up to encourage snooping.
It's done to protect the copyrights of big corporations.

They want to watch in case anyone tries to download something that belongs to them. That's why it is so porous. Congress could make it less translucent and protect personal privacy far better.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:34 AM
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7. i think one of the women he sent pics too contacted him.. probably sold the pics to him
she was apparently a supporter.. divorced mom.. sent him sexy pics too. ie..consensual and not young...
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:04 AM
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11. I think "stunt" is a misnomer
For 3 years he engaged in a pattern of behavior. That is no "stunt". One has to think, "who is this guy?" I still think he put his seat at risk.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:42 AM
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21. I agree, I won't defend the idiot, and he is an idiot. Obviously, he could care less for liberal
causes, because if he did, he would not have done something so stupid

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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #21
67. Crucifying him will guarantee you silence his liberal voice. Is that what you want?
We have precious few liberal voices in Congress as it is, but you're willing to silence his because he did a stupid, frat-boy thing? Seriously?

Try and look at the bigger picture. Our liberal causes won't get off the ground if we keep tossing the few liberals we have in Congress under the bus for things the Republicans protect and rally around their "family values" congressmen for.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #67
125. I want a liberl or progressive voice who isn't an idiot. Is that too much to ask? /nt
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #125
144. Good luck trying to find the Holy Grail. eom
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #21
104. The picture I saw was no more revealing than some of the bathing
trunks you see at the beach. I read in Forbes that he also sent, for example, a picture of his two kittens. These were jokes, not really lewd pictures. Maybe there is more than I have seen or heard about, but I really don't understand the fuss here. It was stupid, but no more than that.

I think that we were told obscene pictures and thought the worst, but in fact, they were childish jokes.

Remember, he has been married for less than a year, so what he communicated to women before that time was as a fancy-free man.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #104
106. The newspaper sends me underwear ads everyday.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #11
62. One has to think, "who is this guy?"
A normal male homo sapien, I surmise. Just under a holier-than-thou microscope.

Adults have sex lives. Adults like to flirt. Sometimes they cheat...actually and virtually. It's called human sexuality.

Indeed, I'd be more worried about someone who could pass the sanctimonious sainthood test politicians go thru. That would be truly abnormal.

There are no diapers, unwed teenage mothers, anonymous public bathroom pick ups, or secret Christian boys clubs involved here. Nor any Family Values ranting (except from the accusers). That is the important difference.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #62
68. Exactly! Thank you! I refuse to give scum-sucker Breitbart another win at taking down another
Liberal.

Last I looked, Rep. Weiner did not run on family values, so why are so-called Liberals and Democrats demanding he resign? Why cut our noses to spite our face, and give Republicans MORE power?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #68
100. I won't either. I don't believe in rewarding bad behavior.
Granted Weiner showed a bit of it, too. But we cannot afford to have another very strong liberal voice silenced. Look, if the GOP is demanding he resign, that tells me he should stay. I'm not here to give the bad guys another win - OR to do what they dictate.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #62
139. *
:thumbsup:
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #11
66. His constituents disagree with you. His seat is safe. eom
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #11
103. He was married for only slightly less than one of those years.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
117. I agree, and he says 3 years but does one wake up
one day and just begin this behavior?

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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #11
138. There hasn't been a Republican in that seat since 1923...
so "putting his seat at risk", not so much.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #1
35. Stupid stunt?
I think not, a stunt is a one time idiotic event, Weiner has serious mental issues..

How many woman here would think that this was a "stupid stunt" if it was their husbands?


Stop enabling him and other politicians from your chosen party.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #35
48. kick
nt
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winston65 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #35
51. Weiner has serious mental issues?
and you are qualified to make this assessment? It's not a mental issue, if you want to call it anything,call it instinct. Man gets a nod and a wink and gets the smell in his nose and just goes crazy. It's not mental, it's nature. When it comes to pussy, most men behave like morons. Just ask one, we'll tell you.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #51
69. Its not a male issue. Women in power cheat just as much as men
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #35
60. Serious mental issues? Join the real world. Guys send pics of their weiners over the net every day.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #60
135. Guys like your father, husband, brother and son ?
And if they do I'm sure that's fine with you, especially if a young teenage boy does it and sends it to another underage friend...arrest and possible sex-offender for life.
And if it was your husband..oh, well..boys will be boys..right?

LOL



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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #35
72. By the tone of your post, I think Rep. Weiner is not the one with "issues".
He acted like a frat boy. Big fucking deal. But you're really stretching it by now accusing him of having "mental issues".

I'm not enabling him or other politicians from "MY" chosen party (which is, I'll assume, yours as well since this IS the DEMOCRATIC Underground - a place for DEMOCRATS), but you need to stop enabling scum-suckers like Breitbart who are out to take down every progressive voice in our Party. Is that what you're after? Why do you insist on cutting our noses to spite our faces? The ONLY ones that helps are Republicans. Why do their dirty work?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #72
77. Why? Mebbe the poster REALLY means 'YOUR chosen party.'
Agree w you, BlueCali, and thanks for posting.

:hi:
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #77
89. Yep. That's exactly the vibe I got.
Thanks for the supportive comment, elleng. And it was my pleasure. :hi:
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #72
116. Frat Boy? lol
Keep making excuses if it makes you feel better.
I refuse to ignore his behavior and lies because of Breitbart or others like him.
I'll stand by my "mental issues" comment and you can stay with your "frat boy' beliefs.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #116
141. More idiocy and NO answers. Not that I expected any from you
But it's glaring that you've completely glossed over the questions I've posed in my post, and instead, are giving Brainfart the benefit of the doubt.

With Democrats like you, who needs Republicans - oh wait!
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #35
79. You're a psychiatrist, then?
Since you feel that you can diagnose 'serious mental issues' from the comfort of your desk chair, you must be a psychic too?

Get your nose out of people's crotches.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #79
133. Crotches? lol...that's exactly where Weiner wants the gals to look
He's an exhibitionist remember?

One doesn't need to have any degree to know the guy is sexually and emotionally messed-up to engage in that behavior.



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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #133
142. So, you're answer is no? Why am I not surprised?
And you need to stop that obsession with Rep. Weiner's crotch. That, too, can be seen as a mental issue. Just so you know.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #142
149. Not my obsession sweetie, it's Weiner's obsession with his own
crotch...lol
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #35
98. By his actions he not only cheated on his wife, he actually became
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 12:20 PM by neoralme
childlike by displaying his body parts, thus humiliating her. And all this talk about "men smell this and go crazy" may be true for some men with a propensity for promiscuity, however innocuous. But most men would have considered their inner conscience and mused that this is not right. Yes, maybe there were problems with Weiner's marriage and he needed an outlet. But random women, on Twitter? Not smart. And not worthy of this office. I don't call for his resignation. I think he will come to that decision himself. I just hope he does not give anymore judicious characterizations of other men doing other similar things. Republicans do not need any more talking points from this sordid affair.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #35
105. Orion007, the picture I saw was no more revealing than swimming trunks.
Forbes says he also sent a picture of his two kittens and similar such childish jokes. What do you understand that he sent?
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #105
115. There's supposedly one of him that's of his erect penis which
is what caused him to finally come clean,not wearing his briefs.

There's sex talk with the gal from Texas posted on the net.

This was a problem that he said he and his wife discussed before their marriage,he was to stop and he didn't...

In the end it was the blatant lies that were shocking.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #115
122. It's a personal problem, probably an obsessive/compulsive
problem. His peers in Congress and his wife will have to deal with it. Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs is getting by with . . . .
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #115
143. You really sound envious of him. Aw. eom
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #143
150. What an idiotic comment...n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #1
52. Maybe the experience will make him a better Congressman
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 09:27 AM by slackmaster
But will it make him a better husband?

So...can anyone tell me how Breitbart got his hands on so many of Rep Weiner's photos?

Weiner posted them on the Internet. Anything that goes on the Internet is subject to being viewed by any other person who presently has or will at any time in the future have access to the Internet.

Anyone who doesn't understand that is just plain naive.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #52
74. That husband part is for him and his wife to decide. Not you or I.
Rep. Weiner said he deleted them, yet Breitbart got them. How did Rep. Weiner post them? On his Facebook page for all to see? Really? Did Breitbart maybe create a Twitter alt or had someone do it for pay, in order to entrap Rep. Weiner? Hey, that's no less of a "out there" scenario than anything else I've read, and considering Breitbart is a savvy blogger, and he loathes Progressives, I'm sure he knows how to create multiple Twitter alts and Facebook pages. It's real easy. Anyone who doesn't understand how easy that is, is just plain naive, too.

Btw, I have THREE Twitter accounts. I know what I'm talking about.

It's just a bunch of speculation, anyway, isn't it? Did he really post pictures as graphic as Breitbart said, on his Facebook page? That's pretty darn hard to believe. This is why we need to get some savvy Progressives to investigate Breitbart instead of focusing so fanatically on Rep. Weiner. His constituents, even the detractors among his constituents, say it's no big deal, and they'll vote for him again.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #74
81. I don't have an account on Twitter or any of the social networking sites
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 11:25 AM by slackmaster
They're too big of a security risk for me, both professionally and personally.

It's just a bunch of speculation, anyway, isn't it?

Why anyone would waste the firing of perfectly good neurons thinking about the mechanics of how the pics got leaked is beyond me. The egregiousness of the original act of stupidity, i.e. posting the pics in the first place, is sufficient for me to know who's primarily at fault.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #81
92. There's no risk if you don't have nefarious plans for them.
>>> Why anyone would waste the firing of perfectly good neurons thinking about the mechanics of how the pics got leaked is beyond me. >>>

Goes to motive. Why isn't that an issue for you? As a Democrat, you'd want to know...wouldn't you?

>>> The egregiousness of the original act of stupidity, i.e. posting the pics in the first place, is sufficient for me to know who's primarily at fault. >>>

Not for me, but I'm not about to lose a strong Liberal voice in our weak Democratic party over a few pics that show less than what you get for free on the Internets over some self-proclaimed, personal moral issue. I am not a sucker for self-punishment or a cheerleader for Breitbart.

Had Rep. Weiner run on "family values", I would've agreed with you, but he didn't, did he? He gets my support. He'll have enough to deal with with his wife without having some self-righteous people crucifying him for his stupidity.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #92
109. The guy FUCKED UP. If he was entrapped, he allowed himself to be entrapped
By doing stupid shit.

There's no crying in politics. It's a hard, dirty game in which reputations of individuals are expendable and only the strongest and most savvy survive.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #109
134. yes, royally...
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:12 AM
Response to Reply #109
140. I was informed recipients volunteered the pics to Brainfart. Oh yeah, he was set up
and it was stupid shit, all right. But not stupid enough to resign for, and not stupid enough to be crucified for by so-called Democrats here, or any place else.

Yeah, politics is hard. So why whine about naked pictures? He didn't have sex with any of the girls. He sent fucking pictures. Big fucking deal.

Americans, I swear, are the most hypocritical people when it comes to sex. Violence is a-okay, but oh we draw the line when it comes to sex although we have one of the biggest porn industries IN THE WORLD.


I'm so fucking tired of American hypocrisy.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #81
107. What was the original act?
Could you see anything in those pictures that you don't see in swimming trunks on the beach on any hot summer day?

The picture I saw was silly, but not really very revealing.

Forbes reported that he also sent a picture of his two cats with a double-entendre label. That is an undignified joke and childish for a man of his age, but utterly harmless.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #107
110. Posting that one silly picture was a stupid, thoughtless thing to do
I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand. If you don't want your reputation to be savaged on the Internet, don't post stupid pictures of yourself!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #110
123. Yes, but this is a petty problem compared to the horrible unemployment
numbers in our country. It is just a distraction.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:58 AM
Response to Reply #123
130. I agree with you, but once again the media are not there to educate or enlighten people
They're in it to make money.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #130
147. Then the Democrats should educate the media, and we can start by stop eating our own!
Edited on Thu Jun-09-11 01:40 AM by BlueCaliDem
Republicans would NEVER do that. They'd fight the media and Democrats every which way they can to protect their own, and their power in government. And that is what this is all about.

Democrats are showing how wishy-washy and weak we are by not standing by our own. Instead, the "leadership" are all too willing to toss one of our strongest progressive voices under the bus as if he were a Republican! Not ONCE have I heard the Democrats demand Ensign or Vitter to resign. Not. Once.

But BOY are they quick to demand a member of their Party, to.

They should be all over the media pointing out the hypocrisy of the Republicans in order to shut them the fuck up already, and to give young people a reason to vote for them. In America, we loathe weaklings, and by having 6 Democrats already coming out to demand Rep. Weiner resign, our Party is showing the Democrats have the loyalty of a yellow-belly turncoat.

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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #74
118. All your comments are focused on your distain for Breitbart
thereby giving Weiner a pass...hummm....
You remind me of Hillary and her RW conspiracy when Bill's romp became public.

Weiner isn't loved on the Hill,so don't be so sure all are saying/feeling this is no big deal, Harry Reid
just made a comment telling Weiner to "call someone else."


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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #52
84. same as sending a postcard
of the wife in the buff then wondering why the postman gives her a wink and knowing nod.
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #1
87. Breitbart got the photos from a woman......
....to whom he sent them. He may actually be working other women and other photos. Another site claims they have 200 of his messages.

I'm sorry to disagree with you, but this sounds like another man of power (Republican or Democrat) that thinks he is entitled to these "spoils". If his constituents re-elect him, they get what they deserve. If this was a Repub, we would demand his head (no pun intended).

By the way.....how do you know that "he's sorry for this stupid stunt"?? Which stupid stunt?? There appear to be numerous women getting these messages.......and he only came clean (maybe) when he was trapped by facts and photos.....a wonderful example of character.

It is WE DEMOCRATS that don't need this "distraction". Let's be consistent and ask him to go. I believe that it will give us the best chance to retain the seat.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #87
95. "Let's be consistent"?? We as Democrats have never demanded anyone's resignation
over non-criminal sex acts. That's something that the holier-than-thou hypocrites on the Right do.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #87
96. "I'm sorry to disagree with you," No, you're not. But that's okay. I don't cut my nose
to spite my face. You, apparently, don't have a problem with that.

WE DEMOCRATS need to stand unified and strong. This is why we look weak to the young people of today. This is why Bill Clinton left office with a 70+ percent approval rating despite all the "gloom and doom and self-righteous" Democrats wailing he'd done our party harm. The majority of Democrats don't have an ax to grind with our Democratic pols.

I will NOT ask Rep. Weiner to go. Had he run on "family values", I would've had reason to, but I will NOT cut my nose to spite my face, and I will support him through this because to not support him now would, in all actuality, be in support of that scum-sucker Breitbart and what *he's* done; giving him a second Liberal as a victim on a silver platter to boost his credentials with Fux News, and I'll be damned if I do that. But then again, I'm a LIBERAL Democrat and I know what we're up against.

Tell me, would a Republican abandon his fellow Republican for something like this? Yeah. Didn't think so, either. That's why they gained power in the 11/2010 midterms and we're struggling.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:52 AM
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91. can't help but think he's "too liberal" for those calling for his resignation
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #91
146. Without holding Brainfart to task, or asking him the hard questions.
Were it a liberal journalist who "intercepted" the pics and went on CNN to expose Re. Weiner, I'd think differently, but Brainfart has a track record of shilling for the rightwingers...and if I know it, why didn't Wolfie Blitzer? Why wasn't Brainfart asked the hard questions like, how did he get his hands on the pics, and why did the women who got them "volunteered" them to him, of all people?

This smells like a set up.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:00 PM
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93. Agreed. Unless there is something illegal going on (sex with minors, hiring
prostitutes of either gender, or sexual harassment/ rape) the public simply has no right to question what someone does in their private life. The only people this "scandal" concerns is the Congressman, his wife, and the woman who received the photo. It's sad that America hasn't matured since "the Scarlett Letter" was written. I have a friend in Sweden who is amazed and sickened by the fact that Americans care more about each others sex lives than they do about the fact that our predator drones are killing innocent people abroad. Talk about a twisted set of priorities!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:33 AM
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2. IOW, fuck this shit, we have real problems.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:59 AM
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5. K&R nt
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:49 AM
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10. +100000, and Weiner is toast anyway, all else is delusional thinking
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:17 AM
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16. This is NYC. We're grownups here...
and can distinguish between public and private behavior when the public is so good and the private is so doofus.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:40 AM
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27. unfortunately for New Yorkers, the rest of the US will decide this one,& Weiner is done
and he lied and covered up in public, so your point is moot anyway. Sorry, he did seem like a decent-minded man, too bad he turned out to be so dim-witted.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:35 AM
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53. Are you voting in NY?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #27
80. ...
:thumbsdown:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:22 AM
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78. ...
:thumbsup:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:39 AM
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20. thank you!
all of this silly puritanical pearl clutching is just a bit much.

If you don't live in his district, then what you think doesn't matter. If you live in his district, then vote him out if it "outrages" you that much.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:49 AM
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23. It is more than just HIS district. He represented liberal/progressive causes, and because of his
stupidity, he has hurt those causes. He is now just a distraction from the real problems.

As far as "silly purtanical pearl clutching", I don't consider sending suggestive pictures to young woman on a public network very rational behavior that I want to see in a leader who represents progressives causes



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winston65 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #23
49. Please-
when it comes to men and their reaction to the furry creature between women's legs their is no rational behavior. No different than a dog climbing over a fence to get to Fifi.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #49
70. Its not a male issue. Women in power cheat just as much as men
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #70
111. Bullshit. n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:43 PM
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124. I don't know who you are speaking for, because it isn't me. If something is important enough, I
will NOT jeopardize it

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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #23
57. So - what you're saying is...
...anyone who steps up to be a Champion for liberal causes had ought to be a certifiable saint before he gets to work??? It's funny how some of us can poke fun at the CONservatives(I do this) and their blatant trampling of "family values" whilst RUNNING on them. But let a liberal - NOT known for the ridiculum of running on family values - be revealed as courting fantasies and OH SHIT!!!!! Throw that perverted cretin down the hole!!!

And LYING is a condemnable offense? Well then...... Let's tally up a list of what Obama unmistakeably told he WOULD DO if we sent him to the White House. Let's sit him down in a room with a computer and start bringing up YouTube clips from his run for office. Then we'll pointedly query him on all the "certitudes" he vocalized and have him explain where the wiggle room is in those statements.

I'm not saying that Weiner's acts and resultant cover-up attempts are without wrong, but I can say that I've lied in tight situations where my back was against the wall in a panic. Wasn't over relationships or flirtations, but where DO we draw the line?
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #20
46. Does that mean we should never criticize any congresscritters who aren't our "own"
reps? That's a pretty astonishing claim...
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:42 AM
Response to Reply #46
129. do what you feel led to do
adult much?
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FrankinMO Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:30 AM
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39. Agreed
Hes a moron for sending this shit, but we have bigger fish to fry.

As our country slips away, all America can focus on is stupid fking stories. 1st birthers and the damn brith certificate and now this.

I wonder what will be next?

While wall street, bankers and the fed rob us blind, we focus on "Weinergate".. really, weinergate GTFO!!

Maybe it's just the way America is now. We care more about snooki and real housewives vs education and equality.

Sometimes I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

I am ranting...just pissed off that this is even a story.

No one will give a shit about this story or the next once they lose their job or their house. That's when most will wake up... by then it will be too late.

If I was rich, I would own a ton of flat screen monitors. That way I can punch the screen every time I read a stupid story that means nothing to us.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:29 AM
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61. Which the powers that be want to ignore. They'd rather focus on sex nonsense. nt
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:59 AM
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4. Good!
"Weiner’s record of fighting for his district balances his poor personal judgment, Sepulveda said."

Did Jon Stewart say anything? I missed his show - will catch it tomm.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:35 AM
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8. Isn't it always a repeat on Mondays? It used to be, if I remember correctly.
Yeah I know, I said I'd be hiding Weiner posts. Well I did last night, well over 50 when I stopped counting. I woke up this morning and lo and behold, up to our elbows in Weiner again. It's like attempting snow removal with a tweezer.
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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:37 AM
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9. I kinda wish Eliot Spitzer hadn't been so quick to throw in the towel, too.
It's alright to weather a sex scandal storm, as long as you're not a sanctimonious family values hypocrite about it. We've got to stop making sexual fidelity the ULTIMATE litmus test in politics. Granted, it should count, as it speaks to character, but it shouldn't trump everything. The French and the Japanese have been turning a blind eye to this stuff for years as the price to pay for good government. We may as well.

Alright, I too will "stand" with the Weiner on this issue. Say you're sorry, and then go back to trying to craft good legislation on behalf of the people you were elected to serve.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:29 AM
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38. Spitzer had to go because
of the hypocrisy. He was all for putting hookers in jail while he was enjoying their services in private. Weiner has no such conflict. That doesn't mean Spitzer couldn't get elected today (depending on who his opponent is). The last time Weiner's seat went pub was in 1921.
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JournalistKev87 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:13 AM
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12. Now that his constituents support him
can people on here please stop calling for his resignation? We can't afford to lose this guy, especially with dangerous people like Breitbart and his little Photoshop editor James out there. Despite him royally screwing up, I stand by Rep. Weiner and want him fighting for us.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:23 AM
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59. We should go after AB
There just HAS TO BE some dirt under HIS carpets. I mean - talk about the poor guy having his vacation ruined because of the shit HE started!!! There just HAS TO BE some crap of his own making that we can slather him with. He wants to be a prominent figure on the world stage? I say we oblige him. :hurts:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:30 AM
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13. Had Weiner taken possession of that...
telephone pole sized wiener to begin with this would not be nearly as bad...LYING is what pisses people off not o much the photos. And as far as anyone knows there was never an actual physical relationship between him & the girls so DAMN I wish he had simply told the truth.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:50 AM
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15. Yes. This. Exactly.
He had to know that as one of THE MOST OUTSPOKEN Dems around, he would be a target. I'm no political analyst but even *I* can see that. That was just plain dumb. Really dumb. I like him a lot and am really surprised that this whole thing was true because I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (shakes head)

Dude ... hope this wakes your ass up. Next time you do stupid shit, don't try to evade it before the country. Own it and move on. (Glad that my stupid shit isn't out there for the world to see.)



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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:37 AM
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19. +1 I totally agree!
I too really like Congressman Weiner a lot & like you said it was incredibly dumb to do! Plus, he should have known he was a target! .

..I too wanted to believe him but to be perfectly honest the day he refused to say whether he knew or not that was a picture his "pole" I knew the story was only going to get worse. Jon Stewart basically called him out on this fact that day as well...And the two are long time close friends. I don't know if you saw that episode of The Daily Show but it was kinda sad because Jon Stewart was visibly upset that his friend had done something so dumb & was not being totally honest about it...And the fact Jon Stewart had no choice but to be the person he is & make fun of him just like he does other politicians who do similar dumb things & lie about it.

I think it is safe to say Congressman Weiner hurt a lot of us & it will take some time for him to rebuild that trust. Which sucks because we really need him right now...And even though I know he will not be able to do what he does best, call Republicans out on their lies for a long time, I DO NOT think he should resign. That is, as long as nothing else surfaces & what we know now is the entire story.

...PLEASE LET THIS BE THE ENTIRE STORY!!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:46 AM
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14. What a harebrained article. AP talked to a couple of constituents?
Weiner is a liar. He should resign because of his lies.

It's usually not the offense, but the coverup, that gets politicians.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:20 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. Bull.
I'll still vote for him for mayor if he wants to run. I think he's learned a big lesson and as sex scandals go, this was dumb but minor.
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BadtotheboneBob Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. Agree...
He's a Lying Liar telling Lying Lies... and he's not even good at it... Extremely flawed decision making ability in a crisis situation...
What a waste... He coulda been a contender.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:40 AM
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63. Weiner is a liar.
So is everyone else... especially when it comes to sex.

THE difference is, he is not yelling about "family Values" while he does his thing, and there is nothing... I repeat nothing kinky about what he did. It's all pretty mundane.

My problem is he's so intimidated by Right Wing opinions, he felt he had to cover it up.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #63
137.  Poor,poor Weiner, because of those RWingers he hasn't
been able to be out in the open and sext and send nude photos of himself..poor,poor Weiner..lol
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:42 AM
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22. Weiner's hobby
I was a participant in a lot of "cybersex" activities back in the mid 90's. I found it to be sometimes fun, sometimes dismal and a new pornographic thrill.

In terms of a morality crimes magnitude chart, it is somewhere between public drunkenness and buying a copy of Playboy at the 7-11.

I am an average Joe, and I must admit I coveted my online privacy a hell of a lot more than Anthony did.

But, the magnitude of the crime is a little more severe than picking your nose in public, but not much. Face to face real physical affairs and prostitutes is where my line is.

Hell, even Jimmy Carter publicly admitted he lusted for women other than his wife. I sincerely hope Anthony rises above this. The magnitude of the crime does not warrant his resignation in the least.

-90% Jimmy
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:02 AM
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24. If only......
If he had said, he likes to take photos of his erection and show them to strangers, we could say he may be a pervert but at least an he is honest one. On the other hand lying about sex and one's sex organ is not unusual. Weird yes, poor judgment yes, crime no, sexy no.

This is pretty harmless compared to illegal wars that kill innocent children, subsidizing criminals on Wall St, torture, not regulating clean water and air, etc, etc.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:24 AM
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25. The republicans cannot win on the issues, so....
they (Koch Brothers?) resort to hired guns like Breitbart to expose the weaknesses of the most powerful voices on the dem side. Sure, Weiner is an idiot for doing what he did, but he is very effective on the job.

We can all fall apart, or we can demand that dems in the house and senate keep the focus on this country and on us and when they do that, we stand with them.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. dont rationalize assinine behaviour, this was a betrayal of progressives, he lied & covered up, ffs
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:47 AM
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30. don't lecture me
look at the bigger picture
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:16 AM
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36. the bigger picture mandates Weiner goes,otherwise he's a poster-child to get nationally clubbed with
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:33 AM
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42. I'll take Weiner being a poster child
over having to defend a senator who gets hookers to change his dirty diapers any day. Or over one who paid his mistress's family off. I really don't think the pubs are going to go there. For any pub calling for his resignation I have two words (and visuals if they really want to get nasty): David Vitter.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #30
136. Like the penis photo that hit the internet today? lol
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #136
145. You're really, REALLY obsessed with Rep. Weiner's weiner, aren't you?
You should get help for that.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #145
148. Not at all and your tatic of putting on me what the foolish
guy did doesn't work, it just shows your arrogant stance of excusing him.
This has nada to do with me.
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SacoMaine61 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:27 AM
Response to Original message
26. Annual HR re-certification now required for all public officials...
Course Title? "If you can't keep it in your pants, how to keep it off the Internet. A step-by-step guide to preventing your penis from making your decisions."

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hakko936 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:42 AM
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28. To me, it is not so much that he did it ......
....as much as him lying about it and not taking ownership of it. If he had simply said "This is true, but it is part of my private life and will be handled accordingly", I would have still thought his actions were incredibly stupid, but I could have respected him for taking ownership of his actions. How you handle adversity is a reflection of your character. To me, character matters. I am not saying you can't make dumb mistakes, because we all do something dumb sooner or later. I am saying you have to own your stupidity.

Unfortunately, this is the type of behavior that is becoming all too common with our politicians. It is not the behavior in and of itself that destroys the careers of these politicians. It is the way they try to wriggle out of it and only accept responsibility as a last resort that destroys their careers.

I would much rather support a brutally honest politician who has made mistakes than someone who hold themselves up as squeaky clean only to have a house of cards come crashing down on them. I can't wait for the day when someone announces they are running for President and puts out a press package with all of the stupid/rotten crap they have done in a bulleted list for everyone to see. That is a politician I could vote for! :-)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:52 AM
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31. Weiner's district isn't NY26
The problem for Hill was that his constituents are for the most part moralistic ninnies. Everybody in Queens and Brooklyn has seen far more bizarre behavior on their way to work. This morning.

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:53 AM
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32. I have little trouble with this. He's a public figure and should have thought better of this.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 07:53 AM by AllyCat
However, what he did was not illegal. It did not involve minors. LOTS of people post photos of themselves online whether suggestive or otherwise. This is not a crime. Wish he would have been a better judge of behavior given his station in life, but I don't see how this has any bearing on his ability to represent his district.
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:38 AM
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44. Unbelievably DUMB
Got into it with the local wingnuts on the local forum over this. I had to threaten to post the long list of republican sex scandals to demonstrate there are enough small head thinkers on both sides to go around. That said, WHAT WAS HE THINKING? I followed him on his appearances on the "Ed Show", he seemed like such a bright and promising dem who cared about and fought hard for the people. He had to know he was in the sights of scum like Briebart. What a shame. :(
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
99. The list of Republicons doing this kind of stuff (usually with children) is a mile long
but the wingnuts will jump all over this kind of thing, won't they? Weiner was stupid to believe he would be immune to scrutiny. It would have been good if he'd handled it better (or not done it in the first place). Give your wingnut blogger, um, dare I call them pals (?) the web address for armchairsubversives.com The list goes on and on and these people avert media scrutiny every time. Peace.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:57 AM
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33. This is so sad...
that I can only rec this once
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:08 AM
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34. He has a serious disorder called
ex·hi·bi·tion·ism
noun \-ˈbi-shə-ˌni-zəm\
Definition of EXHIBITIONISM
1
a : a perversion in which sexual gratification is obtained from the indecent exposure of one's genitals (as to a stranger) b : an act of such exposure
2
: the act or practice of behaving so as to attract attention to oneself


Also mentioned was the serious issue of him leaving himself open to black-mail.

I'm not making any excuses for him or any other politician who has serious character flaws no matter what political party and he needs to resign and get some mental help.
His arrogance during this fiasco making up one lie after another adds to his need to go, he's disgusting and insulting to many people now.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. Dr Ruth, is that you? nt
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:32 AM
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41. lol...thanks for the giggle. n/t
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:37 AM
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85. Dr Ruth, is that you?
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 11:45 AM by AlbertCat
No. Dr. Ruth would not think exhibitionism (of this type) is a serious matter.
:eyes:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #85
114. Spare me the parsimony
you're taking yourself much too seriously.

:eyes:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:16 AM
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50. kick
nt
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oNobodyo Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:16 PM
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128. Do you often...
Go to the dictionary for medical/psychiatric diagnosis? Perhaps you should look up the word "projection".

It was consensual, between adults, no laws were broken and a lot more common than I'm sure you'd like to imagine...You aren't imagining it are you?...I know how har...difficult it can be at times not to think of some things...

Are you seriously going to tell me that you've never flashed someone that you were dating or a spouse or talked dirty on the phone when they were away?...seriously?

You can't be blackmailed if you're willing to hold a press conference and admit it...The mistake was being too embarassed to come right out and admit it. Notice that he never said that the pic wasn't him?...He just couldn't bring himself to say it...

I have the nagging suspicion that you're just mad cuz liberals got bigger...Hey Anthony, What's up?

The only nice thing I've ever read of you saying about anyone was about Brietbart...

Are you sure that you wouldn't be more comfortable at freerepublic?...
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:51 PM
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131. Projection? lol...no , just that old common sense and what I
have or haven't done in my past has nothing to do with what Weiner has been engaging in.
If I was an elected official then then I would expect to be held accountable, and where do you come up with consenting adults, the man sent photos that weren't asked for according to some woman who have been on the receiving end.
As far as your freepublic comment,..lol...what a lame comment and me saying nice things about Brietbart just shows how your own "projection" interferes with understanding what someone else wrote, while not agreeing with it.

If today's penis photo is one that Weiner took of himself...lol..talk about really being an exhibitionist.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:31 AM
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40. I hope they are correct. n/t
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:37 AM
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43. He may still have a career as a member of Congress, but other than that it's over.
Even as a member of Congress his influence is diminished because he will be looked upon as a joke. This mess will follow him for the rest of his political career.
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:36 AM
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54. Correctamundo. Maybe he should become a lobbiest. For good
things for the people.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:40 AM
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64. Who pays lobbyists to lobby for good things for the people?
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:43 AM
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65. Beyond my pay grade.
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winston65 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:11 AM
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47. I for one
don't care what Weiner did and I don't care that he lied about it. We in my district have enough to worry about with the idiot teabagger congressman we have. The media will draw this out till we are even more sick of it. It's perfect for the news networks. They don't cover policy anyway, so this is a gift for them. The public and the media spend most of the time talking about how horrible politics is and politicians being such low down shit heels, then act so shocked when they one lives down to our expectations. This happens on both sides of the aisle, they are all members of the same sleazy club. Nothing new or surprising here. Don't forget that most men are just like dogs. One sniff on the wind, they get their noses open and they lose their damned minds.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:07 AM
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56. "Most men" ?. Could you provide a link to that? n/t

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:59 AM
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71. He's wrong.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:40 AM
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86. Thank you. n/t
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winston65 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:29 PM
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119. ok,
how about some men? do I have to qualify that?
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:11 PM
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121. That's up to you. That modification takes the comment from sexist to unremarkable. n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 06:12 PM by jtuck004
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:54 PM
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132. Most men? what an insult to most men..n/t
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:37 AM
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55. Yo Comrades
Mr Weiner may have shown poor taste.
But dealing with republicans would
corrupt the Gods themselves. It isn't
as if he is a Mark Foley, or a pack
of others we could name drop. That
Breitbart has produced nothing but a
cheep thrill for the voyeuristic to
feed on. Good riddance.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 10:21 AM
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58. Since my first vote for JFK in 1960 I have had to watch promising liberal
congressmen brought down because the rethugs demand perfection in our party not theirs. This is their way of beating us and unfortunately our own party has not realized that it is dangerous to take risks even in their private lives.

If you look at the list of Democratic congressmen who have been pushed out of congress then it is clear that this is happening. I woke up when I was working with Gary Hart in an Iowa campaign and he thought he could escape the long line of Democrats brought down by defamation of character since the assassinations of our leaders in the 60s.

Two things need to happen in our party. First our candidates and elected reps need to understand they are being watched and that they must remember they represent the party not only as elected officials but also in their private lives.

Second, we need to stop letting the rethugs set rules for our party while they are free to do whatever they want. They can no longer push our leaders our for things their own party ignores when it happens to them.

I for one think Rep. Anthony Weiner is too valuable to throw away. He needs to work on personal issues but in my estimation the reason I liked him before is still there. He can and does speak out on the issues I am most concerned about. If I were in his district I would vote for him again.

Good for the NY voters - they are not letting the rethugs push them around.

As to the lying. It was wrong but I can understand why he (and Bill Clinton) at first denied the event. It is simple - wifes and family. This happens all the time in private lives. Protect their marriages in any way they can. My ex lied to me for the same reason but he was not an elected politician so no one called him on it. Except me.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:03 AM
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73. this is just a perfect opportunity
for conservative dems to try to get rid of one of a few popular liberals who are left in our party. I believe a lot of the hand wringing is based on prejudice rather than his actions.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:09 AM
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75. Politicians are not saints, far from it
He didn't rape to Constitution and didn't break the law.

How many innocent children has the US killed since this story broke? Few know, few care but an erection my lord, hang him.
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deathrind Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:09 AM
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76. Lol @...
This country. Sex happens, it always has and always will. ~7 billion humans are proof of that. The rest of this is between him and his wife and it is none our business but since we are a soap opera country it will continue to be on TV. Personally I think Mr. Weiner should hit the press today with a basic bite me attitude (no pun indented) and turn this around. If someone hacked his personal accounts and info that is a crime... a real crime. If that someone was part of what is coming to light in England with Fox or if Breitbart or a source of his had a hand in hacking this needs to be investigated and if this was some sort of retaliation for his taunting Thomas it really needs to be investigated. It seems very convenient that this 26yr old from Texas comes out same day giving cover saying I sent the images to Brietbart... too convenient. What AW did was wrong but he did not break the law and this certainly is not on the level of say a Craig or Vitter or Foley, family values during the day bathroom stalls / escorts / texting underage pages at night. AW had the balls to put his balls on the internet now he needs to have the balls to stand up and fight because what he did thousands are doing right now. It is not a crime, sever lack of judgment but not a crime.
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madlefty Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:52 PM
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113. AMEN! this country is too obsessed with how we get off.
The real question I want answered is how did the pic get out there if non of the women reported it. I think twitter has some explaining to do. Of course I saw the underwear pic and I thought it was lame. There is more than that in a Sears Catolog...
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Corruption Winz Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:27 AM
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82. Good. I really don't care about what he does online or in his marriage..
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 11:27 AM by Corruption Winz
It really doesn't matter to me. So long as it doesn't distort his policy. Don't care what side of the aisle he is on for that.

The only time it would matter is if it came off as politically hypocritical. In this case, I don't think it does.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:29 AM
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83. Right wingers didn't care about Bush's lying over "weapons of mass destruction" why should they care
about something so minor as this. It's not like millions of lives and an economy is at stake.
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what is wrong here Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:48 AM
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88. Am I missing something?
Lets see. Weiner does a stupid frat boy thing. Sending the photos out is an issue between him and his family. I feel the main point is he lied. Continually about this. He stated many times that he did not send them. he demanded an investigation. Not by the coppers, but by his own private detectives. He continued to deny, blame anyone he could possibly blame, deny some more, then admit that, oooops, he sent them. The question is not that he sent the pics, who cares. The issue is his integrity.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:51 AM
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90. Interesting to hear what his constituents think.
K and R.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:00 PM
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94. Wait a minute what kind of credibility
can a politician have if he straight faced lied in multiple interviews to the media and his constituents and only come clean when the evidence mounted against him. Sorry folks but I can't support it no matter how well he served his community its a matter of principle.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:11 PM
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97. How was that photo "lewd"? Silly maybe and stupid, but lewd?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:35 PM
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101. This is just what I expected.
Weiner made a stupid mistake, but he is a wonderful guy overall, and his constituents will be loyal to him. I would do the same for my congressman. There are more important things than sneaky jokes that go awry.
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RayStar Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:16 PM
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108. Do not resign
Stay we need you.
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:44 PM
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112. YES!!
Just yes. Nothing more needed.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:41 PM
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120. Thanks for posting this.
really good to hear right now, :thumbsup:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:47 PM
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126. tempest in a teapot
Sorry, but he did nothing illegal, no need to resign. disclaimer: I grew up in Queens
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:56 PM
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127. Weiners' real problem? He was not frank. n/t
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