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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:04 PM
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Bill Clinton: Universal Health Coverage Saves Money
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 06:07 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Reuters

Bill Clinton: universal health coverage saves money
By Bill Berkrot
NEW YORK | Tue Jun 7, 2011 5:42pm EDT

By Bill Berkrot

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former President Bill Clinton said the United States could save more than $1 trillion a year by adopting any other advanced nation's healthcare system.

- snip -

"Germany and France, with what is considered the most effective systems in the world in terms of universal coverage and quality of treatment, they spend 10 percent. Canada spends 10.5 percent," Clinton said. "The United States spends 17.2 percent without having universal coverage," Clinton said.

"That means if we just scrapped our system and adopted any other wealthy country's system, at a minimum we would have a trillion dollars more a year for pay raises, for investment in new technology, to create new jobs or whatever."

Read more: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7566U520110607?irpc=932
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:06 PM
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1. Bill Clinton is right
This should be shouted out by every Democrat.
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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:07 PM
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2. Yeah? Why didn't we hear this from him last year?
What I call "Barking behind the Fence".
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:09 PM
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3. Maybe because he isn't in charge
anymore.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:46 AM
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30. ? Not being in charge anymore means he can say things after a lousy bill is enacted and signed, but
not while it's under consideration?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:24 AM
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42. He supported Obama on this insurance finance reform bill
I would imagine a lot of people supported it even though they didn't like it, we got the bill Obama wanted and got passed. I've been told time and again it was the best we could get.:shrug: I really don't get the point you are trying to make.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:10 PM
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4. maybe because the current president wasn't into it ? nt
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:12 PM
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6. Damn, did you hit the bulls eye
:thumbsup:
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:25 PM
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18. Bingo!! Wonder if this means Hillary will not be staying around.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:22 PM
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25. Because he was too busy touring the country with Bush II, his "adopted" brother.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 09:22 PM by ClarkUSA
This made their Poppy Bush so happy.

:puke:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:48 AM
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31. I'm not following this line of reasoning at all. .
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:11 PM
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5. Here he is in 2009.
http://www.correntewire.com/bill_clinton_rationally_single_payer_best_system

Sat, 06/20/2009 - 2:39pm — lambert

From nyceve's report on Bill Clinton's meeting with bloggers:

Then he talked about single-payer. "Here's the deal on single payer. Rationally, single payer is the best system", he continued, "our system is the worst, most expensive and least effective."

So, that would make the alternatives not rational?

Good to know, since we've been saying it for some time.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:32 PM
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13. Clinton Couldn't Get it Through Congress When He Was President Either
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:51 AM
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32. Clinton did not have the House and 60 Senators in the Democratic Caucus.
Besides, he and Hillary went about it all wrong.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:00 AM
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40. What?
The bill was introduced in his first two years, and it failed in 1994.

103rd Congress: Clinton had 57 Senators and the House Democratic caucus was 258.

For most of the first year, including for the final passage of the bill, there were 59 Democratic Senators in the 111th Congress.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 11:03 AM
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41. Thanks. "What?" indeed.
He was elected largely on the promise of health care reform, which he promptly torpedoed with all this HMOs and other disfunctional shit we are stuck with now.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:20 PM
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9. Or When Hillary Cooked Up that Bogus "Health Care" BS?
that would have been a good time to speak up.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:52 AM
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33. +1
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:18 PM
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7. K&R n/t
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:20 PM
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8. He is a smart man. He has always known this to be the case. Interesting that he is saying it now..nt
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:52 PM
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14. I agree completely, the timing of this admission
is indeed interesting.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:24 PM
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10. being a small business owner, universal health care is its own stimulus
I will say it until I don't have a breath left in me, universal health care means people won't have to make the choice between buying something they need or like and paying their medical bills. Universal health care is its own stimulus because it frees up money that otherwise would go to medical bills that they will be paying on until the end of time.
I make custom designed dolls and always get someone each month that backs out of their lay-a-way plan because they have unexpected medical bills. I have NEVER had someone from the UK or Canada do that, in fact, more of my business comes from the UK and Canada that from the US anymore. Kind of sad, isn't it!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:26 PM
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11. "He also said there are important advances included in President Obama's healthcare reforms
and urged that it be improved upon rather than repealed."

Everyone from Clinton to Bernie Sanders knows this.




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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:26 PM
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12. Does Bubba still want to cut Medicare? Did he mention whether Paul Ryan called him yet?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:55 AM
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34. +1
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:55 AM
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35. +1
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:53 PM
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15. If only he was President
He could fix it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:15 PM
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24. Yeah, like he "fixed" it the first time around when he had a chance.
:rofl:
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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:02 PM
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16. Then ?
Then why doesn't the republican talking heads like it? It does everything the present system provides and more for less cost. Whats not to like? When are the dems going to wake up and use this arguement?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:04 AM
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27. The part that is 'not to like' is when politician$ of both parties get told...
by their aides, that the private system's BIG donors to their respective campaigns had their paid lobbyists communicating to them their threats of not contributing one penny for their next electoral campaign, and every other electoral campaign of theirs.

That's where the 'protecting the private system' priority comes in.

That's America, after all, isn't it?

Always been, and will always be (unless 200 million Americans start an unlimited hunger strike and refuse to fold).
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:08 PM
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17. well, gee, when he was President it was by slashing meager welfare aid to poor people
Perhaps he "sees better," away from the Oval Office?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:57 AM
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36. He still defends repeal of Glass Steagall, so maybe not.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:52 PM
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19. The timing is interesting. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:24 PM
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26. He clearly got a call from the White House.
He has stepped up for President Obama many times.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:59 AM
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37. LOL!
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 08:59 AM by No Elephants
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:49 PM
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20. It's so obvious it's ridiculous.
... but Clinton is the first major league politician with the GUTS to say it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:05 PM
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:12 PM
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22. Wish he had said this in 2008 or 2009, also his Medicare comments ...
in this article, not sure what he is saying.

:shrug:

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:12 PM
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23. It's apalling how much we spend on health care, 5x more subsidies than oil.
It's ridiculous. And the poorest wind up with the least benefit.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 02:43 AM
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28. And where the FUCK were you two years ago? n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:46 AM
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39. 1++++++++++++
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:01 AM
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29. No shit? nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:03 AM
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38. Bubba. still lookin' for love.
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 03:34 PM
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43. RepubliCON Care Kills 45,000 Americans Per Year
Unfortunately, Democrats refuse to make that part of their HCR campaign. More Americans needlessly die thanks to Republican stupidity and Democrat passivity.
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