FAIR:CNN to Al Jazeera: Why Report Civilian Deaths?

As the casualties mount in the besieged Iraqi city of Fallujah,
Qatar-based Al Jazeera has been one of the only news networks broadcasting
from the inside, relaying images of destruction and civilian victims--
including women and children. But when CNN anchor Daryn Kagan interviewed
the network's editor-in-chief, Ahmed Al-Sheik, on Monday (4/12/04)-- a
rare opportunity to get independent information about events in Fallujah--
she used the occasion to badger Al-Sheik about whether the civilian deaths
were really "the story" in Fallujah.

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CNN's argument that a bigger story than civilian deaths is "what the Iraqi
insurgents are doing" to provoke a U.S. "response" is startling.
Especially in light of official U.S. denials of civilian deaths, video
footage of women and children killed by the U.S. military is evidence that
needs to be seen.

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When reports from the ground are describing hundreds of civilians being
killed by U.S. forces, CNN should be looking to Al Jazeera's footage to
see if it corroborates those accounts-- not badgering Al Jazeera's editor
about why he doesn't suppress that footage.

http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-aljazeera.html

Killing civilians intentionally is against international law. CNN just doesn't want us to know that the bushies are ordering genocide.

Desert storm...even showing pictures that turned out to be phony photos?
This story was discredited and proved to be untrue but no one as I remember apologized for it.

We see photos all the time of the 'atrocities' alleged to have been commited by Saddam and we have no real proof of who the victims were or who killed them. Do we really think that we can carpet bomb a nation and kill people? All those dead bodies in Iraq were not the result of Saddam's brutality but many are from our own brutality in the guise of a war for liberation.

Or did you just respond to the wrong post? Because you are basically agreeing with me.

besides the incubator story, which has never been documented is the "he tried to kill my daddy" assertion by *. Eric Alterman writes (in that book he wrote after 'What Liberal Media?') that the attempt on Bush, Sr.'s life never occurred--it was a fabrication, in which the Kuwaiti gov't was complicit.

She's the one who frequently calls Bush 'Our President'...a war lover in the extreme.

Dumb and Dumber



Look at the cannon under the arm of "Bunker boy"

Najaf is off limit to clowns. And they know it!!

He will never, however, get to use it, since most of his day is in the Bunker

We already have plenty of US media outlets telling the US military side of the story. Many varied perspectives from all angles, including those on the receiving end of the US operation, are needed so a news consumer can draw an conclusion about what is really happening opposed to the one side that US cable news is feeding.

Why the fuck not!!!

Forgive me for the expletive not deleted but I've just about had it with the US "news" channels.

These civilans are casualties. Good Lord, it's their home we invaded. I'm so sorry we're doing this to them. The more the Americans hear of this the better.

This all makes me cry. I'm sorry.

CNN, when owned by Ted Turner, had a modicum of independency and respectability as an unbiased news source. Now, as a "unit" of AOL/Time Warner the channel only broadcasts what those in the executive suite decide. And they decided they wanted to copy Faux news, so there you go. It's a Victoria Clarke friendly type venue and thus will continue the deception. Witness Bill Scheider and the traitor Bob Novak. They employ some real scum.

never did match. He's a little boy playing little boy games. Unfortunately, his father bought his way into a position where he can't be ignored. Yet.

To expose their mission so crudely? How inept.

I was in France Easter weekend, and the story that the doctor at the hospital in Fallujah reported 600 dead, many of them women and children, hit over that weekend and was the top story. Al Jazeera was not sourced -- the doctor was sourced directly. In the UK, Sky News also reported the doctor's story as the top story, not relying on Al Jazeera or other Arab news sources. The story was 600 Iraqis dead in Fallujah. There is no proof for the number; American media should go to work and try to confirm or discount the story, and stop dismissing it, as American authorities have, because it was reported only in Arab news outlets. That is NOT true -- it was reported in European news. It makes me furious. If 600 died in Fallujah, mostly women and children, as part of our war, the American people should know it.

On edit: A few days ago, I emailed the NYT, WP, and CNN, asking them to report this story. I received a personal reply from the new reader rep at the NYT, with links to three well-reported stories about the war. They had referenced the story that day in one of them, but indicated that the doctor was unable or unwilling to give further information on the dead. I thanked them and asked that they continue to pursue the story.

I don't know if they gave a specific number, but last week they did have footage of dead people, including children. It was very disturbing footage, and they may have gotten it from al-jeezera.

I think that the BBC does a pretty good job covering the war. They don't show a bias, which of course in freeperland means they are biased against the US/conservatives.

especially tv, appears to report news differently from any other free country in the world. When I leave the UK, and arrive in the U.S. and turn on the tv news, I always think that some huge event has occurred while I was in transAtlantic flight, because everything seems to have changed. One time I actually called a family member, and asked what had happened. Nothing had.

I mean, have you ever noticed how Americans assume a democracy exists in this country or how they assume that their leaders must be "good" or how they assume their bests interests are being protected, etc. etc. etc.? It's like they are brainwashed which is why I keep believing that our whole populace has basically been subjected to a form of psy-ops. And, sometimes,...I find our people's basic assumptions,...just plain weird because everyone is living in an obvious contradiction of terms. I dunno, maybe it is just me.

that is, childhood religious indoctrination

add to this the manufactured consent situation of the media
viola! murikan ideology

about their country. I think they remain in denial until hit in the head with a two-by-four. Their support for Bush is a good example, with that support finally beginning to erode. The American press seems to feed this denial -- telling us over and over after the stolen election that we were lucky there were no tanks in the streets, legitimizing W as an acceptable occupant of the WH, anointing him with greatness for standing on the 9/11 rubble with a megaphone, supporting his desire for war with Iraq and making opposing that war unpatriotic. It's definitely "not just you."

who went on air and accused David Letterman of faking the yawning kid video. She did that on orders from her employers at the White House.
Her credibility is zero.

"Why should I put that in my beautiful mind?"

We need to slam our press for denying us the ability to be an informed electorate.

They are complicit in covering up the war crime our country has become.

be covered --

even dead towelheads count.

</sarcasm>

V

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i just finished my post on CNN. I likened the attitude that the Iraqi's made the troops overreact to wifebeaters who say the women made him do it.

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=88
Reporters targeted by soldiers

IMHO..if they target journalists then they will target innocent civilians as well. I mean WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

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The predominant mindset is of assertive, robust policies and doctrine to
guarantee national survival for a country at war by all necessary means. Sharply
set against this is the new technological capacity of news organisations to
report, question and challenge from any location, often instantaneously. These
pressures create a new sharp line of confrontation and reduced military
tolerance.
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Yet the growing overall picture is that some governments believe they can now
target anyone in the media who bears witness to their operations and reports
them.

Worse still, they believe they have the right to do so without investigation,
apology or charging those military personnel involved with a possible war crime.
In the tensions of any conflict, critics demand media accountability. There
should be the same accountability for the military.
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This is what happens to you IF you want to report the truth...
Bodies? What Bodies?
By Patrick J. Sloyan, AlterNet
November 25, 2002

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14633

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When a Scud missile eventually hit American troops during the ground war, reporters raced to the scene. The 1,000 pound warhead landed on a makeshift barracks for Pennsylvania national guard troops near the Saudi seaport of Dahran. Scott Applewhite, a photographer for the Associated Press, was one of the first on the scene. There were more than 25 dead bodies and 70 badly wounded.

As Applewhite photographed the carnage, he was approached by U.S. Military Police who ordered him to leave. He produced credentials that entitled him to be there. But the soldiers punched Applewhite, handcuffed him and ripped the film from his cameras. More than 70 reporters were arrested, detained, threatened at gunpoint and literally chased from the frontlines when they attempted to defy Pentagon rules.

Army public affairs officers made nightly visits to hotels and restaurants in Hafir al Batin, a Saudi town on the Iraq border. Reporters and photographers usually bolted from the dinner table. Slower ones were arrested.
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Cheney THEN and NOW...the master of BLACKOUTS AGAINST ANY AND ALL TRUTH! Only difference is...this time he has even more power and strong-arming abilities than ever before...be forewarned!

or at least that's what they said a year ago. Maybe it was a double-lie.

CNN has zero credibility, imo. Zero.

News agencies used to report "news" all the time. For CNN to ask Al-Jazeera why they are reporting news, is like an ice cream vendor asking another ice cream vendor why they are selling ice cream - it makes you wonder what the first ice cream vendor is in business for.

A MASSACRE IS TAKING PLACE for whats going on.
It's under Latest News....

YOU report that George Bush is popular, credible articluate, and sane."

:headbang:
rocknation

But civilian deaths are not the story? Just goes to show you.

Don