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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:47 AM
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Police investigating a wider timescale for hacking scandal
Source: Independent U.K.

Peter Mandelson has asked police to look into whether his bank account was hacked into. Lord Mandelson's concerns relate particularly to 1998, the time of press interest in his mortgage. Piers Morgan, previously editor of the News of the World, edited the Mirror from 1995 and 2004, and friends of the peer note that the pair have never been close.

Yesterday, it was reported that the England captain, John Terry, had a tracking device planted in his car, and the former Tory party treasurer Lord Ashcroft claimed that more than a decade ago a private investigator had "blagged" his way into the Conservative Party's bank account.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/police-investigating-a-wider-timescale-for-hacking-scandal-2296481.html



What?! Murdoch's minions were using tracking devices on the people they were trying to entrap??!! Hacking phones, hacking emails, tracking devices... and now they are seeing this was going on when Peirs Morgan was an editor. Pretty crazy, eh?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:20 AM
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1. So, does Murdoch hack in the US?
Pretty serious offense here I believe. Not sure, but that is what I think.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:52 AM
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2. Who does Murdoch think he is? President of the United States?
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 03:55 AM by No Elephants
"{CNN}: These days, when you find yourself thinking about Richard Nixon, what comes to mind?

{Ellsberg}: “Richard Nixon, if he were alive today, might take bittersweet satisfaction to know that he was not the last smart president to prolong unjustifiably a senseless, unwinnable war, at great cost in human life. (And his aide Henry Kissinger was not the last American official to win an undeserved Nobel Peace Prize.)

He would probably also feel vindicated (and envious) that ALL the crimes he committed against me-which forced his resignation facing impeachment-are now legal.

That includes burglarizing my former psychoanalyst’s office (for material to blackmail me into silence), warrantless wiretapping, using the CIA against an American citizen in the US, and authorizing a White House hit squad to “incapacitate me totally” (on the steps of the Capitol on May 3, 1971). All the above were to prevent me from exposing guilty secrets of his own administration that went beyond the Pentagon Papers. But under George W. Bush and Barack Obama, with the PATRIOT Act, the FISA Amendment Act, and (for the hit squad) President Obama’s executive orders, they have all become legal.

There is no further need for present or future presidents to commit obstructions of justice (like Nixon’s bribes to potential witnesses) to conceal such acts. Under the new laws, Nixon would have stayed in office, and the Vietnam War would have continued at least several more years.”


Bin Laden and Nixon are probably laughing in Hell right now."





http://maureenholland.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/ellsberg-all-nixons-crimes-against-me-now-legal/

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:41 AM
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3. I suppose if these people had nothing to hide. Blah blah blah....
I think we may be seeing this play out with Anthony Weiner.... Weiner was trying to get Thomas to explain this financials, and boom....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 09:58 AM
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4. Rupert is a terrorist.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:14 AM
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5. I seriously doubt that Morgan hacked
Mandelson's bank account in 1998. There were very few banks, if any, that even had web pages that year, much less on line banking. Now, if had been 2009, I could believe it. In 1998, AOL was still a very big player in the Internet game. People tend to forget how young the Internet really is.

zalinda
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:43 AM
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6. It would've been around '98 that the net really did get going big.
That's when so many of the discussion boards and newsboards started-up. I know P45rant.net & irishabroad were both big those years. I think virtualireland.com too. My point it's not total inconceivable.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:47 AM
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7. they may not have had webpages...
but they definitely had computers keeping track of money.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:19 PM
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9. Yes, they had computers keeping track of the money
but, it was a closed circuit. Banks didn't really start on-line banking until they got side swiped by PayPal. Banks have never been known to innovate, they follow a trend. It happened the same way with credit cards back in the late 60's. When they see their bottom line being eroded away, they follow the trend.

In '99, PayPal was just getting to be thought of as legitimate. It had beat out a number of on-line money alternatives. In fact, in '99, you had to pay big bucks just to get a credit card acceptance for your web site, because the Internet was almost considered a passing fad. I know, I was one of those who set up a web site in '99. I think for most banks you could look at your bank statements by 2000, but you couldn't do anything else. Most banks were afraid of the millennium bug, remember that? It seemed that every one was holding their breathe on that one.

zalinda
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:43 PM
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11. Internet banking is not the only form of electronic banking...
...service available. In fact I recall I had one hell of a nightmare setting up the banking software for the mob I worked for at the time.

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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:31 PM
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10. Depends on your definition of hacked.
In the more general sense, it means gained unauthorised access.

And while banks didn't have web pages, a good many banks back then were introducing direct dial computerised banking services.

So might I say: SOME PEOPLE tend to forget that computers and networking predate the internet.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 12:20 PM
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8. Why is Murdoch still a free man and not hanging upside down
in a torture cell in Syria right now? Sounds like a very evil fucker that wants to destroy America and Britain. I had no idea the politcal Right Wing leaders had so much power and control over the two govts! FUCKING YIKES!

Amazing how the evil just gets away with it time and time again.
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