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cory777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:03 PM Original message |
World's oceans in 'shocking' decline |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Shocking"? |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Same people who are shocked that the earth is a synergetic system |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. exactly |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. ignorant, or.....denial? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I think it's an unhealthy mix of both |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If you saw the report from Australia the other day, their GW scientists lives are threatened-- !! |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
91. i read that article, they moved various scientists, from geologists to weather |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Author wasn't shy about using hyperbole, but the threats are very real. Thanks for posting. |
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avebury (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. I was looking at my property on Google Earth last night. Here's what I saw. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. "unprecedented in human history" |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. the people who have been working on fish farming and hydroponic farming |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Except fish farms don't produce healthy fish -- it also sucks -- !! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. Anyone who is "shocked" hasn't been paying attention. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. 'Shocking' state of seas threatens mass extinction, say marine experts |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. We never seem to learn |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Humans are on the die-out list too. Once we are gone, the rest of the planet can recover. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Well, probably another evolutionary bottleneck. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Insane. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. We are clever, not wise. |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. true. as a species, we've evolved mentally; while stagnating & at times regressing, in wisdom. n/t |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. There's too many people using too much. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. We're animals, and we're like any animal. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. In the past, great civilization grew until they used up |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Yes, you're right, and . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. "We are really smart about really stupid things -- !!" |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. We know the names of the Kardasians |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. True -- it's the "I Love Lucy" effect ... at a time when our nation moved into atomic era!!! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. We have met the enemy and it is us. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Well, yes and no -- all of the TVs need to be tossed into the closet -- !! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. TV and air conditioning has destroyed our sense of community. |
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JosefK (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Cars are more to blame... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Remember the movie "Avalon"? |
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postulater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. So it's true. The sky IS falling. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. No, the sea is boiling. |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Is the reason few care because.... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Sadly...seems statistics verify your view..... |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. No, the reason why is, WTF can I do? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Liberal leadership is taken out as soon as it rises .... |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
77. That's part of the problem-- we're not socially adapted. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. This is just too depressing... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. This planet has had several mass extinctions before humankind ever came along. And |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. yeah..just give up...it's just inevtible...and after "Extinction.coms Rebirth!" Heard this befor |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. So do you dispute my facts? Do you disagree that 97% of all species that ever lived on Earth |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Dispute your non-facts .... Global Warming is changing weather systems, creating more earthquakes .. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. What are you talking about.? What non-facts did I mention? I did not dispute the existence of |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. You're suggesting Global Warming is "part of nature" -- that's false ... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I didn't even mention global warming. Please quote where I said that |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Your #14 above .... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I didn't see any mention of "global warming" in my text that you quoted. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. The thread is about the POLLUTION of our oceans ... there is nothing "natural" about it ... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Ok fine. We can discuss pollution of our oceans, but now you are changing the subject. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Deleted message |
caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. As I said above . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. In fact, for anyone who loves nature ... and understood the glory of it -- |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. I think it's a rather selfish attitude to think that somehow our species is any |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. I never said it was special in the objective sense . . . |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Holy shit, man. You don't seem to get it, do you? |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. To copy & paste what I wrote above to totodeinhere |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. But it goes beyond the human race pissing me off. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Even if you're angry at the reasons why |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. This is true, however given that it is humans who seem to be such a diving force |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. It isn't "humans" -- it's the few violent elites among us -- |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. That's just the way it is. Do you think that primitive man felt guilt over their role in |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Two massive differences. 1st is that humans, mostly, have evolved past the primitive |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Nonsense -- there is no guarantee that this planet will keep turning given the amount of damage .... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. No, it's not nonsense. This planet has survived collisions with asteroids or comets that resulted in |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. Of course it is .... we have two nuclear reactors in every state -- poorly maintained and old .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. kr |
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blank space (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. To all you Americans - honestly - how |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. I'm not. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. This is capitalism's exploitation -- the public has little choice in this -- |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
47. reminds me of the Bolero from Allegro Non Troppo |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yeah! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. More from him: "Freedom." |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
57. Marine life facing mass extinction, report says |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. It seems entirely likely. |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I agree with you, MineralMan... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. I had only one for same reason and I fear for him |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
66. Where are we going? How did we get into this handbasket? What can we do about it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Interesting, but elites need to convert nature into $$$$$$ .... for power .... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I generally agree, except it's not just an elite that's to blame. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Wait ... when Average Joe undestands that he may not be able to survive on |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
71. But we gots dominion - Jezus sez so. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. get used to eating more chicken. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
90. If you notice the effect that ... |
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janburns96 (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
82. soon we have 8 billion humans |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
83. K&R nt |
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eringer (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
86. Looks as though the writers of "Soylent Green" script were spot on |
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daggahead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
87. Not to worry ... Jeebus will save us. n/t |
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The Nexus (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
88. The right will call it "Ted Dansen Part II" nt |
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