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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 05:02 AM
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Utah voters sound off on new electronic ballot machines
Utah voters sound off on new electronic ballot machines
Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:00 AM
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS |
SALT LAKE CITY -- Some Utah voters don't trust electronic ballot machines and say they'd want a paper receipt if the state switches over from punch-card ballots.

"I don't believe in virtual reality voting," Larry Bergan told the state's Voting Equipment Selection Committee. "Our country is in deep trouble if people don't know if their votes are counted."
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The change is part of the U.S. Help America Vote Act of 2002, which provides Utah with $28 million in federal funding for new voting machines. Congress acted after punch-card equipment proved so troublesome when Florida was counting its 2000 presidential election returns.

But some Utah voters say there's no good substitute for paper. About three dozen showed up for Thursday's hearing, out of 784,582 Utah residents who voted in the 2000 general election.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 05:16 AM
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1. 28 million would go a long way for paper and markers..
Part of the problem is the fact that the elections have gotten so "complex", and they needn't be..

Not everyone even wants to vote for the propositions or the judges or the bond issues.. The easiest thing to do is to just separate them..

The candidates for president, congress and senate would easily fit one ONE page.. Hell they could even put their pictures on it..

For the other stuff, just print a different ballot with that stuff on it.. The people who want to vote for it could, and the ones who don't , could just make one box at the top. NO VOTES...

How simple is that??

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:16 AM
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3. Never work
It would make voting too easy and transparent.
They'd have to come up with new ways to commit voter fraud.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:43 AM
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2. Solution: EVERYBODY use absentee ballots
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:41 AM
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4. Not a solution...
The absentee totals are fed into the machines just like any other vote, so there's still room for those to get botched too. I'm pretty sure Bev Harris's "Black Box Voting" includes a story where the absentee count was handled improperly by an electronic voting system.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:50 AM
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5. sweet! even the mormons are getting suspicious!
rock on! keep doing what you're doing BushCo. you are slowly but surely isolating all of your fan base. soon they will see through you and never trust you and start to distrust other conservative groups! yay! divide and conquer1

feed them as much rope as they want, let them fashion the noose to their liking, and when they least expect it... *yank* the neo-con movement ends itself.

yay! yay! yay!
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