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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:30 PM
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Five or Six Marines killed in Husaybah
The AP is reporting six marines killed in Al Qa'im (aka Husaybah, Qusaybah, on the border with Syria).

http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=1668

The reporter on the scene, Ron Harris of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, originally reported five marines had been killed.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/8457144.htm


HUSAYBAH, Iraq - (KRT) - Lance Cpl. Dustin Myshrall knew things were going to be bad from the moment he responded to the call for help from his fellow Marines.

"There was nobody on Market Street (the city's busiest thoroughfare)," said Myshrall, 22, of Baton Rouge, La. "We were flying through the alleys and there weren't any of the little kids like you normally see. But we didn't know it was going to be this big."

In some of the fiercest fighting in recent weeks, five Marines were killed and dozens of Iraqi insurgents slain in a daylong battle that began early Saturday in Husaybah. Marines beat back the offensive by what was reported to be hundreds of Iraqis from another area who had slipped into this city just 300 yards east of the Syrian border.

According to Marine intelligence, nearly 300 Iraqi mujahedeen fighters from Fallujah and Ramadi launched the offensive in an outpost next to Husaybah, first setting off a roadside bomb to lure Marines out of their base and then firing 24 mortars as the Marines responded to the first attack.



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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 PM
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1. Damn...those flowers are getting very annoying.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 PM
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2. Where will the Iraq War Memorial be?
How many names will be on it?
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:39 PM
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3. no doubt
We will have over 100 US deaths in the month of April
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:41 PM
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5. We were at 93 dead yesterday and climbing fast n/t
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:43 PM
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7. We ALREADY have 100 deaths in the month of April
If these numbers are correct, from a quick count, it's already happened.

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:40 PM
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4. "Operation Iraqi Freedom" on your tombstone.
That's what it says at Arlington.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:43 PM
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6. Arlington?
Vietnam Vets below O-10 can't get into Arlington, not that I care.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:52 PM
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15. Whoever is getting buried at Arlington has that on their marker.
I saw a picture and found those words troubling.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:45 PM
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10. I've wondered that too
One of the men mentioned in the story was from Monroeville, Alabama, 35 miles from where I grew up. Monroeville was the setting for To Kill A Mockingbird. I guess Bush never read the novel or even saw the movie.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:54 PM
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16. one of my favorite films . . . don't be so hard on Bush, though
Condi probably gave him the Cliff's Notes version at bedtime.
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:10 PM
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21. to kill a mockingbird is bush's FAVORITE book!
Or so Karen Hughes told him so. (I am sure it is because it is one of the few movies that appeals to americans AND the book follows the movie pretty closely. PERFECT....bush can watch the flick and never have to crack open a book.

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:09 PM
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20. It should be across the street from *'s library.
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 11:11 PM by countmyvote4real
It should include every one that died, but I will concede to their categories as long as there is a lump sum total.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:44 PM
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8. Disgusting
I will repeat this line to the Freeper trolls here.

I TOLD YOU SO.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:45 PM
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9. how many this month?
god what a fuck`n mess that bush has made. i told my 18 yr daughter tonight as we were discussing the chernobal website, that i really didn`t think that we would be facing this insanity again. i thought that we wouldn`t follow this road again but we are. the future doesn`t look as bright as it did when clinton was president. it`s a dark world but at least she knows that that`s not the way it`s supposed to be, i guess she inherited my dad`s and mine political zeal..it`s up to her generation now to put the train back on the track......
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:46 PM
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11. The nearness to Syria is also troubling
It seems strange that fighters from Fallujah would be setting an ambush so far away. There is plenty more to this.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:51 PM
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14. that seemed odd to me too
Any way you look at it, it's a bad sign for our men and women in uniform over there.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:59 PM
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18. Fallujah has to be 200 miles from the border
At least that is how it looked on an internet map I had a quick look at. I just hope the war doesn't widen to include Syria. That wouldn't be good for anybody, except perhaps PNAC warmongers in their fantasy world. Everyone keeps saying that Iraq and Viet Nam are not the same (of course they aren't identical, nobody claimed that), but this has the potential for Cambodia written all over it.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:15 PM
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33. Actually, this is a MAJOR red flag...
Either the US Military is lying, and these are NOT men from Fallujah and Ramadi, or the fighters in Fallujah and Ramadi can come and go as they please, which suggests that the US is even less in control than they have been trying to say.

For example, the US military has been saying they have Fallujah surrounded, but this suggest they don't. It also means that Iraqi insurgents can move freeely between cities without fear of bombing or interception, which means the US has lost control of the countryside AS WELL.

If the US military is lying however, then this means that yet another city has "rebelled" on its own, and yet another city is becomeing a no-go area for the US military.

LIke I said - major problem either way you look at it.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:31 AM
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34. Just heard Ron Harris interviewed on NPR
He dismissed rumors that the insurgents were Syrians or other foreigners, and stood by the claim that many came from Ramadi and Fallujah.

He also repeated the term "Mujahideen," citing a Lt. Col in command there, he said they were "Iraqi fighters from--Mujahideen from Fallujah, a city here, Ramadi, and about half of them were from the city of Husaybah and surrounding area."

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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:51 PM
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13. The "fiercest fighting" multiplies by the week
And every time I hear that a marine is killed, I hope to God my phone doesn't ring with the bad news that my friend's 18 year-old son was one of them.

He joined after 9/11 thinking he was fighting the terrorists who killed 3000 Americans. At 18 he felt it was his duty to fight back. Like so many people, 9/11 was a defining moment for him.

Now he wants to know why the hell he is in Iraq fighting armed 15 year olds and ripping apart civilian's homes. If these people are the enemy in Iraq, who are we there to 'liberate'?

Saudis were flying those planes on September 11. Why are they still our 'friends'?
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:55 PM
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17. I'm a crazy old fat man, and 9/11 made me want to sign up
The war in Iraq is a betrayal.

I hope your friend's son makes it out whole.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:01 PM
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19. Me too. Thanks.
:scared:
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:21 PM
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23. um, no offense... but HOW OLD is this friend's son?
he joined after 9.11 when he was 18. That was almost 3 years ago. He would not still be 18, no???
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:42 PM
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24. right, he's 19 now, signed up & trained at 17 after graduation
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 11:45 PM by feistydem
On edit: I had to go back and check my math. He's 19 now. He got authorization from his dad to sign up at 17 after he graduated from high school.
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:47 PM
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25. omg, his dad signed the papers.....
oh my god, what is the dad saying NOW?????

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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:06 AM
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26. I don't know. His dad is an idiot. I am friends with his mom.
They've been divorced for years and she's remarried. His stepdad (also a friend) is freaking out over it. I would have thought both parents had to agree, but apparently not.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:14 PM
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22. the Marines are calling their foes "Iraqi mujahedeen fighters"?
Iraqi mujahedeen fighters?

words matter.
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:08 AM
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27. This is Mission accomplish?
This is Mission Accomplish?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:33 AM
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28. Media blackout...
Why arent the news pages even reporting this anymore? I keep thinking that we've suffered no casualties, and then I come here and find these reports! Yahoo home page, news.. has the important things.. like "cheney says Kerry a threat to gun rights". The troops dying appears to be a non-issue now?? How fucked up is that??
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:36 AM
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29. media blackout for almost 4 years
and the blood of every one of these kids is on their hands too.]
bring the troops home now
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:34 AM
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32. Denial is not just a river in Egypt??
The media realize the script they're using is exhausted, but they choose not to directly contradict Centcom. That severely limits what they allow themselves to report. My $.02.

Currently conflicts have erupted *all over* Iraq, and the cpa barely has control of the Green Zone in Baghdad, much less the whole country, which, incidentally, I've been told is the size of California.
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abracadabra Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:05 AM
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30. those darned "inSurgents" ! always insurging and everything.
Maybe if they would stop insurging we could get on with pumping that sweet crude!!

It's ours now and we won it fair and square.

Whew, and I am so glad they aren't calling them derned insurgents RESISTANCE or Freedom fighters or anything!! That could really give people the wrong idea about what we're doing there!!

Damned if we're gonna pull out!
Sheeeeet we'll kill all the ee raquis if we have to!!

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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:44 AM
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31. No word of this in the mainstream media - almost 700 GI's dead
I suspect it'll be public for the Sunday Talk shows. With these the total is 695 GI's killed. Another sad milestone (700) near.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:04 AM
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35. What is the story there at Husaybah??
anyone any insight?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:23 AM
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36. FAUX had a report that the Marines were attacked by 300 terrorists.
Of course, that's FAUX. The St. Louis reporter's story has been confirmed.
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CabalBuster Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:53 AM
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37. Removed
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 09:54 AM by CabalBuster
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