Veterans Summoned to White House, Told to Brace for Cuts

Source: WVNS TV

BECKLEY -- Leaders of veterans groups met with administration officials Tuesday to discuss what is at stake if Congress cannot come to a consensus.
President Obama has said that if a default occurs, the administration will be forced to prioritize who gets paid.

That means those receiving veterans benefits, social security, unemployment insurance, tuition grants, food stamps, and child care subsidies may be forced to compete for coverage.

Read more: http://www.wvnstv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=104194

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Programs and perks that benefit the wealthy elite will continue uninterrupted, as will the wars.

rich bitches get richer. Is there no one left to piss on? WIC? Cut. Vets? Cut. I loathe them all.

Leaked Audit: Boeing Overcharged Army Up to 177,000 Percent on Helicopter Spare Parts

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$644.75 for a small gear smaller than a dime that sells for $12.51: more than a 5,100 percent increase in price. $1,678.61 for another tiny part, also smaller than a dime, that could have been bought within DoD for $7.71: a 21,000 percent increase. $71.01 for a straight, thin metal pin that DoD had on hand, unused by the tens of thousands, for 4 cents: an increase of over 177,000 percent.

Taxpayers were massively overcharged in dozens of transactions between the Army and Boeing for helicopter spare parts, according to a full, unredacted Department of Defense Office of Inspector General (DoD OIG) audit that POGO is making public for the first time. The overcharges range from 33.3 percent to 177,475 percent for mundane parts, resulting in millions of dollars in overspending.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4939154

This is major news.

Can't believe that idiot was blaming Obama. But, I lived in Beckley, WV for a while back in my 20s. Not a place that loved libs much.

I heard Obama sneezed during the meeting and sixteen staffers and five WH maids were injured in the race to hand him a tissue from a gold covered tissue box.

The injustice is that teabaggers are holding pensioners like my husband, who is a military veteran and collects Social Security; some of my older siblings for whom Social Security is their only lifeline; myself, who also depends on two government pensions to help a daughter-in-law cover medical bills to keep from losing her leg; and millions of others in the same situation. Not to mention our grandchildren in college and people's parents in nursing homes. But, that goes without saying. People that deflect the blame where it doesn't belong will go out in '12 and vote in the same assholes who caused this whole mess to happen in the first place and the cycle will keep on going. As I'm sure you know, this debt ceiling controversy is a made up crisis that has it's genesis right at the feet of the teabagger movement. That gentleman stating that Obama's taking his pension away is giving teabaggers a pass. He'll vote them back into power in '12 and if by chance a Democrat is in office for the next debt ceiling, pensioners, people in nursing homes, students and everyone else dependent on government services (which is almost everyone) will be in the same boat again when the next debt ceiling comes for a vote.

That's why they have the VA, Social Security and Medicare.

They sacrificed to earn their benefits from those programs.

Cutting those programs is like asking people to pay back some of their earnings years and years after they earned them.

Then the real valuations come out. Low taxes come before veterans services and pensions.

If they prefer low taxes to people then let low taxes do the fighting for them.

“The fact that the President comes out and threatens to take away our social security checks and not pay the veterans is despicable"
Why is it ignorance? Because Obama isnt threatening the checks and saying "I will order the checks not to be sent" as he is just telling the facts as they are in regards to what will probably happen if the debt ceiling isnt raised.

Either it is constitutional or not. If he believes it is not, then he absolutely SHOULD NOT do it. That isn't guts, it's following the Constitution.

It would take guts if it potentially got to the Supreme Court to let them rule if the money that had already been allocated by Congress should be made good

to be certain, and I don't feel like googling right now.

if Congress refuses so to do.

If there is the least bit of uncertainty in the law, lawyers will give their clients the legal opinions their clients want them to give, esp. when the client is the POTUS. For example, a lawyer could, but need not, assume that the SCOTUS today would overrule the 1935 case that applies.

Yoo and Bybee twisted themselves into pretzels to give Bushco legal opinions for political cover and have done well ever since..

And that's even assuming Obama even asked for a legal opinion. If he did, he should publish it, so Constitutional scholars could weigh in.

I don't think so.

If it is legal for a president to order torture, certainly it should be legal for a president to order payments of bills that, through earlier budget procedures, were authorized by Congress to be paid. Why do we need a separate law just to borrow the money to pay for expenditures that were appropriated in the past?

he can find lawyers to OK using the 14th to avoid default.


DO IT,
and let someone else say NO,
THEN bring your case to The People.
At least he would be fighting FOR The People
instead of against them.

What sleaze, what slime. Psychological warfare on the people who gave everything.

veterans benefits, social security, unemployment insurance, tuition grants, food stamps, and child care subsidies..."

In other words, the very last people who should have to compete for payments. :(

no one standing but the very rich and their politician pawns?

This is not a veterans' only issue.

Correction: even MORE so with our vets...

...do they want anyone to fight their many wars for them?! At the very least it's not much of an incentive: 'Come fight our wars! We don't pay well, you may well die, and we'll keep cutting any responsibilities we've promised you. Sign here!'

Full of Iraqi-Afghanistani style WIN!

And Oh! So very smart! :sarcasm:


There are so many comeuppances from so many different fronts on the horizon, it's difficult to conceive of ANYONE
even Middle Man
being surprised when the MANY they screw

--as opposed to the very few who profit, and profit greatly--

decide they won't be taken advantage of anymore.


But what's the saying? 'Who could have foreseen...?!' :banghead:

than the bozos who are doing it now.

Can you see FDR inviting veterans to the WH for a photo op and telling them "Sorry guys. You may have to tighten your belts and put away your prosthetic limbs. I just don't have the power to protect you from those mean old House Republicans."

If Obama can not protect the nation's disabled veterans, who can he protect?

and your cat could relax.

:puke:

on the table for cuts and with that he has eliminated himself from representing the broadstream of Democrats. He needs to do an LBJ and announce he will not, nor would he accepts the Democratic nomination in 2012.

...Eat Austerity Peas,
right after extending tax Cuts for the very RICH,
and starting a New WAR.

Blue Link

Who is this Administration going to summon to the White House...to let them know their interests will be protected?

PB

And the White House comes running, knee pads in hand.

We will have a full-blown currency crisis, along with a stock market crash. There won't be much of any tax revenues to prioritize.

As much as I need it, though, I couldn't say that I need it more than XYZ. These payments are important to every recipient. How can you rank them?