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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:03 AM
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Vietnam's fearsome sneakers
Source: BY PETER WHORISKEY, The Washington Post

NORRIDGEWOCK -- At the factory here owned by New Balance, the last major athletic shoe brand to manufacture footwear in the United States, even workers on the shop floor recognize that in purely economic terms, the operation doesn't make sense.

The company could make far more money if, like Nike and Adidas, it shifted virtually all of these jobs to low-wage countries.

So employees try each shift to make it up. Conversations on the shop floor are sparse at best, and the tasks at each work station have been stripped of waste and precisely timed. Workers cut leather for a pair of shoes in 88 seconds, handle precise stitching in 37 seconds, and glue soles to uppers even faster.

"The company already could make more money by going overseas and they know it," said Scott Boulette, 35, a burly team leader who has his son's name tattooed in Gothic letters down his left forearm. "So we hustle."



Read more: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/workers-brace-for-sneakers-from-vietnam_2011-07-29.html



:grr: Not only are 1,000 jobs on the line, New Balance is a 'good neighbor' supporting local non-profits and the community in general.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:07 AM
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1. Both pairs of mine are New Balance. Need new black ones for work. n/t
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:09 AM
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2. The 5th paragraph is the revealing one
"Now, however, comes what may be an insurmountable challenge. The Obama administration is negotiating a free-trade agreement with Vietnam and seven other countries, and it is unclear whether the plant can stand up to a flood of shoes from that country, already one of the leading exporters of footwear to the United States."

Thanks for putting American jobs first yet again, Mr. Obama! :sarcasm:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:08 AM
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13. continue to put us in debt AND export jobs?
shame.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:22 AM
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16. Ayuh...That trade pact with China has worked out real well.
Our largest volume export to PRC is

(and this is by container volume)

WASTE PAPER! Really!
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Veri1138 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:48 AM
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25. Well...
the only way to compete with other countries such as Vietnam is too lower are wages and benefits to theirs. there you go.

Free trade is simply not free. It would be more equitable if the rest of the world enjoyed the same wages and benefits across the globe. Then, free trade would be more so. The world does not. This would also drastically decrease business profits as cheap, exploitable labour disappeared.

No, Free Trade today is a slogan used by big business to ship jobs to low-wage, no benefit, less oversight, business havens. That is it. That is all. It is like a tax haven where a US corporation sets up a subsidiary in a mail-box in the Cayman Islands and charges all of their US profits through the subsidiary without paying one dime in taxes, as long as the money remains overseas.

And for a few dollars less on a pair of sneakers, Americans are willing to increase the debt by untold millions of dollars more. Great.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:10 AM
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3. Not only great running shoes, but made in the USA.
Only running shoes I wear.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:10 AM
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4. Shared on facebook. Spread the word, New Balance is the way to go.
Thanks for sharing this article!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:13 AM
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5. I won't buy shoes not made in America regardless of claimed working conditions.
New Balance, Red Wing, KB, it's tough shelling out the money for dress shoes especially, but it's just the right thing to do.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:46 AM
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9. NB runs a tent sale every year
And it's a big fucking tent!

I think they mark good inventory as seconds to keep the thing full. The tags in the parking lots indicate people are willing to travel to get a good deal on local product.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:25 AM
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6. Thanks for this -- spread the word, buy American, buy New Balance nt
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:28 AM
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7. I had no idea NB was still made in the US.
Right on. I've been lucky enough to be able to wear them at work the last couple of days. My Redwings are a little hot in the summer.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:44 AM
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8. Thanks. New balance it is.
I detest globalization, globalists, and all the spreading misery associated with it.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:50 AM
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10. K&R for NB! n/t
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:52 AM
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11. WHY do we keep getting fed this lie: "Moreover, importing shoes from Vietnam at lower costs would
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 09:54 AM by Brickbat
benefit some in the United States, either by reducing prices for consumers or raising profits for manufacturers that have their operations overseas."

Lower costs? Really? Then why do my made-in-USA New Balance shoes cost the same as the made-in-China ones? I am SO SICK OF THAT GODDAMN LIE.

ETA: The difference is, New Balance makes less profit on the USA ones. But it makes a profit no matter what. It's NEVER about "lower prices for consumers." It's ALWAYS about "raising profits."

ETA, again: Fuck these "free-trade" agreements, and fuck anyone who supports them.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 09:58 AM
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12. Yeah, some benefit................nt
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:43 AM
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20. Well said. I can only add my nod.
They just can't keep from wanting to put our hand on that hot stove! (THIS time, it won't burn!)
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:17 AM
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14. Imagine the profit that the imports make with their low wage
labor costs. At the price they sell for, it would take their workers months to afford a pair. But they do have to pay superstars millions to endorse their shoes.
People actually think athletes are superstars because of the shoe brand they wear, who new! Actually domestic brands can make money here but profit margins are way way lower. If they could get superman to endorse for free, it would be great.
Looking at the time it takes to make a shoe and so little material involved, the profits are obscene.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:18 AM
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15. Not all the shoes with NB on them are made in the USA.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 10:19 AM by spartan61
I live very close to the factory in Skowhegan and shop in the factory store, which is a converted schoolhouse. When I asked which shoes were actually made in America, I was shown to a very small amount of shoes. I was told that most of the shoe parts are manufactured out of country but assembled in the local factory. Is that how they can call it "Made in America?" I want the whole thing made here and I want Americans to have those jobs.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:40 AM
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18. Yep, you have to check.
I figure it's like a car. Parts made elsewhere, some here, but assembled in the USA.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:37 AM
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17. I wear nothing but New Balance
I'd rather put money away and buy a superior pair of shoes than pay less and get something that doesn't work.

I'm all for keeping those 1,000 jobs here, too.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:41 AM
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19. I need new running shoes and now I know
New Balance New Balance New Balance

The sad news coming out of Vietnam about people being burned to death in a shoe factory there reminds me of why we have OSHA, had unions pushing for worker safety, why I WILL buy New Balance.
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TatonkaJames Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 10:50 AM
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21. Open up jobs here ?
"the Trans-Pacific Partnership, would create U.S. jobs by opening up Asian countries to U.S. exports such as computers from California and paper products from Maine."
Yeah, I'm sure there'll be a boom of computer exports to these Vietnamese villages. What's their average yearly income ?
These trade agreements are NAFTA bad.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:48 PM
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30. Ayuh
More likely Goldman Sucks wants to open a trading desk in Hanoi.

Our main exports are:
Jobs
Waste paper
Debt
Jobs
Debt
Instruments of death
Jobs
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:18 AM
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22. Where's the Kriegsmarine when you need it?
The best thing that could happen for the American worker right now would be a complete naval blockade of the country. U-boats in the Atlantic and Japanese subs in the Pacific intent on sinking every commercial ship headed for an American port. Americans would have to (1) ration gas so they could cut oil consumption by half and (2) get the boarded up factories humming again to make the products needed in the economy.
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:20 AM
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23. We need to abandon some of the trade pacts that are killing jobs here in favor of slave labor and
add limited import tariffs as needed to make American products competitive.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:36 AM
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24. K&R
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 01:25 PM
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26. A list of shoes still being made here in the USA...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 08:20 PM
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32.  First link I clicked had a picture of that war criminal, George W. Bush **.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-11 08:23 PM by Mnemosyne
:rofl:

I've moved down the list. :hi: :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:59 PM
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35. I thought Clarks were made in the U.S., but didn't find them there.
:shrug:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:28 AM
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36. Sadly, no.
I've worn them predominantly over the years as their narrow sizes fit my feet better. They're still designed in the UK, but manufactured in most of the same places as other shoes (Vietnam, China, India, etc.). We have a friend who's a buyer with them so we are able to get a good discount from time to time.
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Fokker Trip Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:26 PM
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27. I love American made New Balance.
All of my running shoes and sneakers are New Balance. Love them and really like the fact that they are American made.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:48 PM
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28. I hope they are able to withstand this assault.
New Balance are the only sneakers I will buy.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:59 PM
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29. I did not know this. Been buying them for years. Stylish and comfortable.
Used to buy Nikes until they reacted so arrogantly to the sweatshop accusations. Haven't bought a pair since.

Good for New Balance.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 08:16 PM
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31. My old pair are better worn at home, time to order a new pair. K&R n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:47 PM
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33. Thanks. I happen to be looking for a new pair of walking shoes
or sneakers and saw some New Balance shoes that looked like what I might like.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:56 PM
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34. Dat's what I have, New Balance.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:40 AM
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37. Why did we have that BS war again? And when do the new ones end so we can outsource jobs to there?
Ar
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