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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:48 PM
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Gov. Jerry Brown vetoes homeless protection bill
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Legislation aimed at discouraging attacks against the homeless, by expanding their right to compensation when they are targeted for assault, was vetoed Friday by Gov. Jerry Brown, who said the move was unnecessary.

The bill, AB312 by Assemblywoman Bonnie Lowenthal, D-Long Beach, would have added homelessness to the categories covered by a California civil rights law that allows victims of hate-based violence to seek damages without going to court.

The categories include race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age, disability, marital status, political opinion and position in a labor dispute.

A person who is assaulted or threatened for one of those reasons can file a complaint with the state Department of Fair Employment and Housing, which can award damages of up to $150,000, plus a $25,000 penalty. Someone who decides to sue in court can win compensation for actual losses, plus $25,000, punitive damages and attorneys' fees.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/06/BAKM1KK2FV.DTL
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:10 PM
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1. Those are some crazy categories for a hate crime. Someone who has a different opinon
re: politics or a labor dispute? I thought protected categories were about religion and things beyond your control, like skin color, ethnicity and orientation.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:54 PM
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2. religion/political position much the same - why one and not the other?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:34 AM
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8. On the contrary. Many have suffered historically for political beliefs.
The Nazis, for instance, liquidated nearly everybody who was a member of the Social Democratic Party once they seized power. Many socialists were exterminated in prison camps run by Francisco Franco during the Spanish Civil War and the following decades under his rule. They're still discovering mass graves in Spain. The price for holding certain sets of beliefs can be exceedingly high, sadly.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 04:41 PM
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3. Question: where would these punitive damages come from?
What if the hate crime attackers live in a trailer park, flip burgers for a living and have no money?

One should not assume that all hate crime assailants are rich kids from the suburbs.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:41 PM
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4. Self delete
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 06:42 PM by Melinda
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 08:55 PM
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5. if the person is poor, they will still have the judgement hanging over them
should they ever come into money, away it would go.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:02 PM
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7. The only way most of us will ever come into money
Is to fuck our piggy banks.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:41 PM
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6. bad optics but good decision
Administrative tribunals should not be given these quasi-judicial powers, ever.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:35 AM
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9. He made the right call--seeking damages without going to court?
Sounds like a graft and corruption machine waiting to happen. How many people would beat themselves up and then claim they were a victim of a "hate" crime?

In his veto message Friday, Brown said, "It is undeniable that homeless people are vulnerable to victimization, but California already has very strong civil and criminal laws that provide sufficient protection."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/05/BAKM1KK2FV.DTL#ixzz1UKXKoON1
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