Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Analysts: Pending price-control law could backfire

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 03:56 PM
Original message
Analysts: Pending price-control law could backfire
Source: Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela — Pending legislation aimed at curbing Venezuela's soaring inflation could backfire by boosting consumer prices, spurring corruption, stemming investment and causing more severe shortages of basic goods, analysts warned on Saturday.

Government officials and lawmakers loyal to President Hugo Chavez claim the Law for Fair Costs and Prices would help reduce Latin America's highest rate of inflation by forcing businesses to set retail prices at rates established by government officials. Among the factors that officials would consider are production costs such as raw materials and labor.

While price controls already exist, the new law would impose such limits on a wider range of goods and give the government more enforcement authority.

"Stringent enforcement of this law will bring consequences including fewer products in markets and less investment," Luis Vicente Leon, director of the Venezuelan polling firm Datanalisis, said Saturday at a news conference. Datanalisis regularly tracks the availability of basic goods and consumer prices.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110813/lt-venezuela-anti-inflation-law



I never believed that price controls really work. If you look at 1970s and look back to the wage-price controls, the only way that you curb inflation is through increasing interest rates.

I think that Hugo Chavez's regieme shows the excesses of socialism. Hugo Chaves has spent a lot of money and has a negative debt rating.

Venezuela's example is an example when you put too much stimulus into the system and inflate it to pay off the debt.

However, there seems to be no evidence that fiscal stimulus has led to significant inflation in the US. Any inflation issues that US saw was due to monetary policy due to Fed printing money and not due to lack of fiscal stimulus.

Right now, the economy is starting to show a bias towards deflation and not inflation. Therefore, I think that the US is in a different state than Venezuela's is in right now and the US could use some targeted fiscal stimulus right now. I have not seen the political will to do this and therefore, the economy will go into further decline.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. More price controls in Venezuela will not work..
They will be met, initially, with some populist support, but will backfire as price controls virtually always do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:07 PM
Response to Original message
2. I heard the CIA is printing trillions in counterfeit Venezuelan currency
and dropping it all over the country to cause the massive inflation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. The Chavezistas are not going to appreciate your sarcasm.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I heard it from a Chavezista, so it's true.
We have massive printing presses that run all day, every day. Just churning out Bolivars.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
4. Price controls always result in higher prices. Nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Always? Even when there were price controls for cable and other utilities?
I mean I know historically they did not work in the long term for things like food as we saw with the soviet union but I am not sure if they result in higher prices for everything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
6. Price controls are a classic example of treating symptoms rather than problems.
If Venezuela has high inflation, it ought to cut its deficit, raise interest rates, and discourage capital flight (or encourage foreign investment.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. You left out eliminate all taxes for corporations, increase taxes
for the lower and middle classes, eviscerate the social safety net, dismantle all regulations for anything, discontinue all funding to improve infrastructure, label yourself a blue dog and advance to go.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. They can discourage
capital flight by not nationalizing everything under the sun. Who wants to invest in a country if you know there is a good chance that your stuff is going to be stolen by the government.

And price controls on food won't work. Know what happens if the government tells you that you have to sell milk at a certain price? You stop producing milk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 07:34 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Which gives the Chavistas a ready-made 'enemy' - those greedy
capitalist oligarch pigs who refuse to produce and/or sell food products for less than it cost them to produce them. It's a win-win for Chavez as elections approach.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. What would they do in that case?
Force the people to work and produce at the point of a rifle? Steal their livestock and equipment? Jail them for refusing?
Yeah. That'd look really good for Hugo's fans.
They'd probably find some way of excusing it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:47 AM
Response to Original message
11. One of the strongest tenets of economics: price controls=black markets
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 08:47 AM by robcon
There will be violators of the controls, and an active black market in all controlled goods.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
12. Price controls are not as bad as prohibition.
Then you get a real black market.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC