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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:27 PM
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Obama administration encounters opposition to international climate agenda
Source: The Washington Post

President Obama spoke of lofty intentions to help the world reduce greenhouse gases when he addressed delegates to United Nations talks in Copenhagen in 2009.

“We have charted our course, we have made our commitments, and we will do what we say,” he said. “Now, I believe that it’s time for the nations and people of the world to come together behind a common purpose.”

But the Obama administration is on track to fall more than $200 million short on its $1 billion pledge to help prevent the cutting and burning of tropical rainforests. Lawmakers have slashed requests on everything from promoting clean energy to helping developing nations cope with the effects of global warming. And although the United States is putting into place standards for autos and trucks that will drastically reduce emissions, its negotiators are fighting with European Union officials over their attempt to regulate U.S. airline carbon emissions.

Any clear indication on where the United States is headed in this arena will have to wait until after the 2012 election, if not later, said Robert N. Stavins, director of the Harvard Environmental Economics Program at the John F. Kennedy School of Government.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/obama-administration-encounters-opposition-to-international-climate-agenda/2011/08/01/gIQAnRWoFJ_singlePage.html
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:32 PM
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1. the U.S. is headed nowhere on this issue
more destruction by the corporados at end-of-empire. The rest of the world is on its own, on this issue...
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:32 PM
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2. Remember this post, because ...
... a few months down the line, people aren't going to recall the interference and obstruction from Congress. They'll just see that it hasn't happened and blame Obama, as with everything else.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:29 PM
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:28 PM
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14. unrec
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:54 PM
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16. Get a clue: "Lawmakers have slashed requests on everything from promoting clean energy to helping...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 11:56 PM by ClarkUSA
... developing nations cope with the effects of global warming."

Funny how some people never blame Congress, who controls the purse strings.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:19 AM
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18. ... "on this forum" , I presume you mean...eom
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:33 PM
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3. What about the wildfires, floods, and droughts in the Repug states?
How thick can they get? Or is it just a matter of the guys profiteering against the rest of US?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:41 PM
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5. Think they're only worried about the insurance losses ???
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:15 PM
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6. God's vengeance for America's tolerance of homosexuality, perhaps?
Seriously, "they" are that thick, and they plan on getting thicker.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:39 PM
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4. Global Warming is the serious threat to the nation and the planet ---
both in instability and in financial harm --- which has long been happening in

insurance costs -- and loss of property --

Disgraceful -- !!!


But from what we saw of this president's treatment of BP "spill" -- and the ignoring

of Fukushima while still pushing a new generation of nuclear power plants here -- and

more oil drilling in Gulf and Arctic -- it's obvious that MIC doesn't want to give up

oil -- a national security issue -- No oil/No wars!!

Boo hoo -- !!

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:19 PM
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7. on the mark
yes, we are royally screwed...
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blank space Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:38 PM
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9. The US
stands to be one of the worst affected countries on earth.

While Russia stands to be one of the biggest beneficiaries.

Ironic.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:46 PM
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10. Low lying nations -- island nations are going to be worst hit -- PLUS ....
any nation like Japan which is earth-quake prone --

cause melting of the glaciers will bring increased earthquakes and

more severe earthquakes --

beyond cyclones, tornados, storms, hurricanes -- etal --


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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:06 PM
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11. and those continuing such as oil, gas, coal, mountain miners should all be in prison.
I am not kidding when I say this.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:06 PM
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12. Saddly too
The US military is one of the biggest consumers of fossil fuels as well as one of the greatest polluters/destroyers of habitats on the planet.
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Phlem Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:58 PM
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15. Read in a recent Scientific American
that there have been several periods of extreme shifts in climate and about a tribe in the southern tip of Africa of whom we are all descendant. The were in a fertile zone but yet subsisted mostly from the sea. We cannot lose the oceans, period.

-p
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:01 AM
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17. Well said and sadly so true! nt
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:26 PM
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13. It is time to impose tariffs on those who don't reduce their emissions
The whole argument about price competition is keeping countries from doing what is needed, in a hurry, to tackle this problem. If the US, China, India and others won't reduce their emissions it is time to impose punitive tariffs on them to equalize prices, plus 10% penalty, to take away that race to the bottom market incentive.

If these countries are at an economic DISadvantage because of their failures to act, perhaps they will more supportive.

The capitalist system does not know how to price externalities into market prices and thus the 'market' is not working because the market price does not reflect true cost to society. These tariffs would help fix that.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:35 AM
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19. Obama dropped the ball when he had a majority in Congress
Obama dropped his climate change initiative in the summer of 2010 because the White House felt it would prevent them from maintaining a Democratic majority in Congress after the midterms. We know how that all worked out, don't we.
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