Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Dead federal retirees are paid $120 million annually, report says

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:15 PM
Original message
Dead federal retirees are paid $120 million annually, report says
Source: The Washington Post

The federal government pays out millions of dollars to dead people each year — including deceased retired federal workers, according to a new report.

In the past five years, the Office of Personnel Management has made more than $601 million in benefits payments to deceased federal annuitants, according to the agency’s inspector general. Total annual payouts range between $100 million and $150 million.

Inspector General Patrick E. McFarland, who previously reported on the improper payments in 2005 and 2008, urged OPM to more closely track such mistakes.

“It is time to stop, once and for all, this waste of taxpayer money,” he wrote in the report published Thursday.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dead-federal-retirees-are-paid-120-million-annually-report-says/2011/09/22/gIQAMjT0oK_story.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. drop in the bucket compared to what's pissed away by MIC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #1
11. +1000 nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. True, but why piss away over $100 million a year on top of the MIC money?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. Can we say
survivors' benefits?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
3. My Mother wasn't dead a whole week before I got a letter from
the government stating there would be no more soc. sec. checks issued and that I was to refund the money for the last one, which I did. This is the kind of thing about the government that just really pisses me off and I think BOTH sides are equally corrupt and/or plain stupid. You would think people in the government would hear about one of their own dieing, and you know they do. In my book this would be worth firing a whole lot of people who are in charge of such things. :mad: I've never used this little guy before - kind of feels good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Same thing here. When my husband died, they made sure that I
did not draw one extra penny. Don't understand the laxity here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:51 AM
Response to Reply #3
13. My mom, too, only I don't recall being asked for a refund.
Perhaps she died at a point in the month where OASDI felt she had been entitled to spend her check? (What the hell was left after she paid rent, anyway?)

Anyway, might suspicious that someone people's checks stop right away and some go on and on and on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:54 PM
Response to Original message
4. So Who's Cashing Those Checks?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Probably direct deposit
and until someone sends in a death certificate, the check keep coming.. I can see it if the surviving spouse is old & poor..they may think it's worth the risk..

If a 80 yr old dies & his check keeps getting deposited,perhaps his 80 yr old widow is willing to take the risk for as long as she can..if there's no "estate", and no heirs, what have they got to lose really
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gulfbreeze Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. My Mom had direct deposit and when she died
the government immediately sent the bank a notice to seize the entire months pay from her checking account. It took 2 years to get it straight. Mom died on Feb 1 of that year and was entitled to keep the previous (Jan) month's check; however, had she died on Jan 30, the entire payment for Jan had to be returned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. The banksters
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
5. With direct deposit they just take it back.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 10:20 PM by Downwinder
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:53 AM
Response to Reply #5
14. Only if it is still sitting in the account--and OASDI is aware of the death.
Edited on Fri Sep-23-11 03:54 AM by No Elephants
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:32 PM
Response to Original message
6. The Pentagon loses or can't account for more than that every year.
BFD.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
7. This is back in the 50s but my grandmother kept getting checks
addressed to my grandfather long after he died. Not survivors benefits but the same checks he had gotten when he was alive. She never reported it because she lived right across from the courthouse and thought they already knew. Fortunately she stuck them away in a drawer and did not cash them. When we found them we called SSA and they just asked that they be sent back.

The elderly do not always understand what to do when a spouse dies. There is a simple answer to this: county officials who record the death certificate should automatically send it to SSA. With fax machines it would not cost much to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:55 AM
Response to Original message
15. $601 million in the last five years--and Boomers are only starting to get OASDI.
Pretty soon, we could be talking real money!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 04:24 AM
Response to Original message
17. Note to posters - article is talking about CSRS not OASDI
There is a trickle of fed retirees under FERS who this may be starting to apply to but vast majority is most likely the CSRS annuitants (retirees and/or survivors).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:43 AM
Response to Original message
18. I expect my brother won't report my mother's death
...when she dies.

He likes spending her $950/month social security pension. She wears rags.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:28 PM
Response to Original message
19. Damn - I'm a live one and don't make anything near that. I need
to ask for a raise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 11:50 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC