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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:12 AM
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Pat Tillman killed in action
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former NFL player Pat Tillman was killed Thursday while serving as an Army Special Forces soldier on a mission in southeastern Afghanistan, Pentagon officials have told CNN.

Tillman, who walked away from a $3.6 million contract as a safety with the Arizona Cardinals to join the military after the Sept. 11 attacks, was in an area where numerous U.S. troops have been killed in battles with suspected al Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

He was serving as an Army Ranger, part of the Army's Special Forces. Tillman played for the Cardinals from 1998-2001

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/04/23/tillman.killed/index.html
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:14 AM
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1. What a waste
I respect him for doing what he did. But its still a waste all the same. May he and the other brave soldiers who have given their all RIP.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:16 AM
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2. and may those who brought him there
burn in Hell.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:18 AM
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3. remember this was in Afghanistan, not Iraq
difference there...
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:29 AM
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7. Difference being the lies about Iraq have been reported
The lies and cover-up about 911 continue largely unreported and

the questions remain unanswered and mostly unasked.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:32 AM
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8. well regardless of LIHOP questions
Al Queda is a terrorist organization...no doubt about that. At least he died actually fighting terrorists...
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:42 AM
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14. SUSPECTED AQ & Taliban
I honor his sense of duty and patriotism, grive with his loved ones AND damn those who sent him there.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:47 AM
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18. Yeah it is, a CIA via Pak. ISI sponsored org.
And the Taliban was, of course, a group 'we' could 'do business with' until...?

Plans to invade Afg. were ready long before 911.


Your response answers none of the questions and I will not attempt to answer them.

You cannot just dismiss it all by printing LIHOP and continue to pretend that Afg. invasion is justified.

This is not meant to be a flame, I got nothing against you, I just do not have enough info to know what to believe.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:51 AM
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21. Maybe he wouldn't have died
if shrub hadn't pulled so many resources out of Afghanistan in order to invade Iraq.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:46 AM
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17. Wasn't he about
25yr old? Does anyone know if he was in the reserves or anything? I wonder what other families are thinking since his death has hit the airwaves--Is he more important than any of the others who they've snuck in during the nite?!
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:57 AM
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24. he was 27, and a ranger.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:20 AM
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4. Ironic and tragic timing...
... this week, in Doonesbury BD -- former football hero and National Guard officer -- lost his leg (and helmet) in Iraq. The storyline has gotten a little bit of press.

Keep an eye on how the corporate press plays this story -- particularly since Tillman was on the front line against REAL enablers of terrorism, the scattered remnants of the Taliban.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:23 AM
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5. "Recruiting Tool" pays with life
When Tillman enlisted, Arizona Sen. John McCain said, "I don't think there will be any doubts about capabilities as a soldier, but also as a recruiting tool."
--Guardian
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:48 AM
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19. he refused to play that part, though
After Tillman enlisted he refused all contacts with the media, prefering to be just an anonymouns soldier serving his country honorably.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:27 AM
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6. Sports Illustrated? A War Scoop by an Entertainment Mag?
I'm not sure whether to believe this as I have seen no reports of

fighting in Afg.
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:39 AM
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10. ABC News has it also
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Sports/tillman_afghanistan040423-1.html
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:38 AM
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9. I am sadden by this man's death...
but why does his death get more air play than any other soldier? Is his life more valuable than the others?
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demon67 Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:41 AM
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13. Of course not
but neither was Princess Diana's life worth more than Mother Theresa's. But when they both died, the difference in press coverage was enormous. The press will always push what they think sells. It is wrong, but true.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:43 AM
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15. Disgraceful, isn't it...
just like Jessica Lynch and the black lady, Lori...
Another upsetting thing--the other nite, Princess Di..Can you imagine how her sons are feeling! I've read articles in our paper how upset they are. How can these people be so hurtful to her sons!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:40 AM
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11. What if that $700 million hadn't been diverted?
Would the soldiers in Afghanistan be better protected?
Just wondering...
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:50 AM
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20. The Better Question Is ... What If $187 billion+ and 135K Troops...
had not been diverted?

Jay
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:41 AM
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12. Hero.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:46 AM
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16. Rest in Peace Soldier
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 10:46 AM by Columbia
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:55 AM
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22. Makes me think of what Randi Rhodes said that..................
None of this had to happen, none of this.
There will be a special place in hell for shrub and his cohorts.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:57 AM
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23. duplicate post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=505381
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