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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:48 AM
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FBI Steps Up Watching Web Hate Groups

Wednesday April 28, 2004 2:01 PM

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CHICAGO (AP) - The FBI has increased its monitoring of hate groups' Web sites since the conviction of a white supremacist on charges he sought to have a judge murdered, agency officials said.

Agents also are providing protection to a man mistakenly identified on one Web site as being a witness in the case.

Federal officials won't tolerate anyone crossing the line from protected free speech to advocating violence in the wake of Matthew Hale's conviction, said Richard K. Ruminski, the FBI's assistant special agent in charge of counterterrorism investigations in Chicago.

Ruminski said Tuesday that a couple of unnamed Web sites have been of particular concern, with views ``almost threatening in nature.''
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More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4030223,00.html
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:53 AM
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1. Can I still say how much I loath, hate, detest, abhor, abominate, bush on
the internet?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:59 AM
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4. We're counting on it...
hehehe!
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:00 AM
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6. WEll...
I despise the man myself, along with most of his family. I can't bring myself to hate the Twins; they haven't come out politically, as far as I know, and they really can't help being related to the Chimp.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:03 AM
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8. Simian bloodlines seem to repeat themselves with horrible
accuracy....just remember they share Laura's DNA too...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:57 AM
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2. Hey...
maybe we should send them a letter in regards to FR...?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:59 AM
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3. Letter?
How about detailed transcripts.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:00 AM
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5. Memo to the FBI:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:42 AM
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17. gee, what about Ann Coulter?
She advocates violence all the time.

She advocates blowing up the NY times building and killing all muslims.

Hey FBI! Go get her!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:01 AM
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7. I wonder if DU is considered a hate group. n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:06 AM
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10. Me, too. *eom*
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:10 AM
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11. No, but it is an open source of political intelligence and a whole lot
more imho!
All within our US Constitution, of course. (not PATRIOT ACT)
:hi:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:11 AM
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12. Judging by some of the mud slinging and personal agendas -
especially those in denial of religious sex abuse of minors...I would say some consider DU to be a hate group opportunity for personal glory!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:36 AM
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13. I can personally attest that many of the social networks of the survivors
the families and loved ones, all the decent law-enforcement folks at all levels that have been prevented from making arrests a lot of people have pooled what we have and are unafraid of repercussions now.

There is no statutue of limitations for murder in the US, yet I know of a murderer that has claimed government protection for his crimes since 1969. This individual has stalked witnesses, this individual was the subject of two federal grand juries in Milwaukee in 1970, this individual appeared on national tv twice as alleged "Tiny Boyles" bounty hunter, he left the Tom Snyder Tomorrow show with a huge bar bill after appearing on that show during the winter of 1979-80 according to Debra Allen.

This same individual was known to the late Lt. Thelen of the Milwaukee Police Department when I spoke to him in 1977 about my concerns about a murderer claiming government protection running around.

This individual is well known to many decent law-enforcement folks that have been stopped from their pursuit of a monster, by "national security".

Well I can provide a bit more about this guy, who should be on America's Most Wanted imo, I know he was involved in white slavery in 1969, the terminus was in Florida.

This individual was employed in the 1970's with Skerbeck Brothers Unit 2 carnival as The Scrambler operator.

There is a good picture of this person in the November 21st 1988 edition of the Green Bay Press Gazette taken by reporter Terry Anderson, Mr. Anderson also took this individual's pic when a group of college students led by homeless activist Karina O'Malley went to Washington DC.

I spoke to Karina O'Malley about this individual, and throughout time have tried to get some justice in a corrupt system that has finally failed.

If anyone would like to help bring a murderer to justice PM me or contact your own law-enforcement, a living witness to murder is on record about this. But there are many dead folks associated with this individual since 1969.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 02:33 PM
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20. The recent news in the Witchita Eagle about Bill Thomas Killman
(an unconvicted murderer who has evaded capture for over 20 years)
resurfacing in the US was picked up on UK radio show this week, on unsolved sex crimes/sex crime link similarities to US and UK.

The interviewer said that new UK links were being explored about covert FBI ops to whitewash over the child sex crimes of now senior/prominent US and UK politicians and people in the public eye.

This in turn was traced back to police corruption in the UK in the Thatcher years and said 'Bill Thomas Killman' coterie was able to operate freely due to UK and US law enforcement being told to turn a blind eye to certain evidence.

That's when reagan was prez and Bush 1 was Veep.

I think some chickens are coming home to roost right now.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 02:37 PM
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22. One can only hope so, it's time to declassify a lot more than PDB's, heh?
eom
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:29 AM
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16. isn't "carnivore" the system used by Homeland Security
looks for keywords like "bomb" and others? you can bet we're on their watch list
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:05 AM
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9. Frankly, although I loathe this guy's views
it seems from the article that it's another one of those conspiracy cases 'bordering' on entrapment.

Very frightening on a number of counts.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:49 AM
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14. the feds already have raided
a right wing website last year after there was a death threat posted. the stormfront-hales their man-moniters their posts for any mention of "killing" someone. i have read some vile things but never any death threats. there are some sites that will alow any thing to be posted. the neo nazi`s are stupid for picking this fight-hale was a dumb ass who picked the wrong name for his cult.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:06 AM
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15. didnt Ashcroft say before..
that he was targeting a list of far left socialist groups such as Workers World Party? What a coincidence, they also organize all the anti-war protests via ANSWER. I have met these people before, even if you do not agree with them politically they are not the type of people who would hurt anyone. This is just going to turn into a political witch hunt.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:34 AM
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18. Keeping real eyes on those sites of ...
Planned Parenthood and the NEA? I wonder if they're also looking at DU.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:43 AM
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19. I guess it means they are monitoring Rush Limpballs....
Ann Coulter et al.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 02:35 PM
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21. Maybe they should start with the FBI.
Whatever happened to those high ranking FBI officials caught at that white supremacist picnic? Fired or promoted?
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