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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:59 AM
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Powell Gives Bush Recommendations on Cuba
Powell Gives Bush Recommendations on Cuba

Monday May 3, 2004 11:31 PM


By GEORGE GEDDA

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Colin Powell presented recommendations to President Bush on Monday to end communist rule in Cuba and offered Mexico and Peru strong backing in a dispute with Cuba over human rights.

A government commission headed by Powell urged Bush to exert economic pressure mainly by curbing money flows to the island from the United States, an administration official said.

Mexico and Peru earned Cuba's wrath by supporting a U.S.-backed Cuba resolution in the U.N. Human Rights Commission in Geneva. The resolution was approved 22-21.

President Fidel Castro blasted the two countries in a May Day speech Saturday, suggesting that both had supported the resolution under U.S. pressure.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4050200,00.html
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:26 AM
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1. Oh give up the guy will die soon.
The old people from Cuba will vote for Bush so this is all silly.Powell has lost it anyhow.
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:33 AM
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2. I'll bet * and his cabal got their information about Castro...
...from Chalabi.

They'll greet us with flowers!!

The oil will pay for it!!

Did anyone know Cuba had oil? It must. Why else would * covet it?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:39 AM
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3. Yeah, that'll happen.
"A government commission headed by Powell urged Bush to exert economic pressure mainly by curbing money flows to the island from the United States, an administration official said."
If the Rethugs ever stopped the money flow from Cuban-Americans to their relatives in Cuba he'd lose evry vote he gained pandering to them over the years. This is yet another example of the disconnect between Powell and his neocon "buddies"in the White House. It'll never happen.
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kori Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:45 AM
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4. IT is another "family" thing
I think it was in the Kevin Phillips book "An American Dynasty". I do not think it was the Bush family, but the Walker family that had large holdings in United Sugar which was nationalized by Castro. Also according to the same book the young George Bush (George the First) had an offshore exploration company in the gulf in the early 60's. The name of that company was Zapata oil. Interestingly enough the code name for the Bay of Pigs invasion was Zapata. Two of the boats taking the "freedom fighters" to the coast were the Barbara and the Houston. So it may well be another piece of unfinished family business.

I am writing this all by memory, unfortunately sometimes a flawed memory, but the basic idea is there.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:57 AM
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5. I've read Bush donated those boats to the invasion, too
I had heard one of them was named the "Barbara."

I've always thought Dubya intends to get revenge for the emphatic defeat the Cuban people gave the Cuban "exiles" (Batistianos) and the CIA in the Bay of Pigs.

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kori Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:02 AM
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6. It was a family money thing
At that time the holdings that were nationalized were to have been returned to the original owners. I do not know that would be possible now.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:18 AM
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7. For an alcoholic/addict...
..."Resentment is the 'number one' offender. It destroys more alcoholics than anything else. From it stem all forms of of spiritual disease, for we have been not only mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick." -- Alcoholics Anonymous, page 64, The fourth addition of the Big Book, the basic text of Alcoholics Anonymous.

The longer George Dubya Bush hangs onto such resentments and paybacks in his life, the more spiritually bankrupt he'll become. For he feeds into the flaws of his character which caused his failure. His own self-will run riot, manifesting in the various ways we are seeing will defeat him. That's my humble observation, for what it is worth.:hippie:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:49 AM
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8. Mexico and Peru lecturing Cuba on human rights is pretty funny.
Next we'll have Kenny Lay lecturing about management.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:35 PM
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9. That has to be a joke!
Edited on Tue May-04-04 03:35 PM by JudiLyn
With their histories?

And Fujimori, through Montesinos having actual DEATH SQUADS before he got chased outta town?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:47 PM
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10. no this is the joke: Banned Fujimori Leads In Peru
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:08 PM
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11. Good grief! They've got a worse problem than I thought.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 04:10 PM by JudiLyn
I would NEVER have thought he'd continue to be that popular without seeing it first.
Fujimori lives in exile in Japan, and has vowed to return to Peru to seek the highest office. In July 2003, the Peruvian government made a formal extradition request, on charges that include murder, kidnapping and misuse of public funds.
This is so odd, it defies description.

On edit: It just occurred to me he cannot be tried if he keeps hiding in Japan, since they won't extradite him.

If, on the other hand, he is being "played," and he returns to Peru, believing he's going to be warmly embraced and re-elected, THEN they can pounce on him and give him that trial he richly deserves!
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