Arabs want justice for Iraq abuses

Rights group calls for un probe, international tribunal

Anger and indignation rippled across Arab capitals Tuesday amid calls for US soldiers suspected of having taken part in humiliating abuse of Iraqi prisoners to be tried by an international tribunal.

Egypt's opposition daily Al-Wafd splashed four pictures on its front page showing what it said were Iraqi women being raped by soldiers.

"The democracy of the American empire of evil and prostitution: mass rapes by US occupation soldiers of Iraqi women under the threat of arms," Al-Wafd said in a banner headline.

The Egyptian Organization of Human Rights (EOHR) joined the fray, slamming the United States and calling for a UN probe and the establishment of an international tribunal to try those responsible.

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was the killing of thousands of Iraqi civilians in a war based on lies.

This administration has committed crimes against its own people in addition to those around this beautiful world. :cry:

I really do hate them.

until a determination can be made as to the Impeachment of the guilty parties..Yes? I like it!

They have every right to ask an impartial court to probe the abuses of their people. World Court, here we come!

And Iraq is basically a 'law-free' zone. I predict that no higher-ups will ever be held accountable for these events, either in the US or Internationally.

But *they* hate *us* for our freedoms...

Except follow the orders of President Cheney.

And enjoy his nightly leash walk to relieve himself.

Also, I think a deal has already been struck between Rumy and Bush..

Rumy takes the fall stopping the domino effect.

Bush Pardons him at the end of his term...

They've done it before with Iran-Contra.

Bush WILL sacrifice the pawn for the greater good (himself).

instead. This is the price of bringing freedom to these people.
I think Caligula was more honest. " Let them hate so long as they fear "

This mess will set us back 30 years.

This is the same format as the WTC attack..

Bush Knew and did nothing about it!

and keep repeating that nonsense about Kerry saying foreign leaders prefer him...hmmmm...I'll bet they will now!!!

Our legacy in IRAQ-NAM

When the POW had a PLASTIC FLASHLIGHT RAMMED UP HIS RECTUM ???

When a GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG BITES HIM IN THE TESTICLES ???

When the POW had a 220 Volt wire attached to the TIP OF HIS PENIS ???

When Lynndie England was encouraged to help the POWs obtain erections so they could perform
ORAL SEX ACTS ON EACH OTHER and the PERKY PRINCESS OF ABU GHRAIB
PRISON COULD SHOUT "HE'S GETTING HARD"???

When SPC Sabrina Harman, 372nd MP Company, stated in her sworn statement regarding the
incident where a detainee was placed on a box with electric wires attached to his fingers, toes, and
penis, ““that her job was to keep detainees awake.”” It is interesting to speculate that SASSY
SABRINA UNDOUBTEDLY ACCOMPLISHED HER MISSION BY TURNING ON THE
JUICE..

When a POW was beaten to death, HIS BODY PACKED IN ICE and TAKEN OUT IN THE
DESERT AND DUMPED ???

When a Civilian Interrogator ANALLY RAPED A 16 YEAR OLD BOY IN FRONT OF GI
WITNESSES and is going to get a free pass because he was under NO ONES JURISDICTION ???

My God hast thou forsaken us ???

LOL

as their religion. They do not undress in front of their families
and their sexual habits are private and sacred. The worst shame
endowed on these people is to be humiliated as these illiterate
hillbillies have wrought on them. They are now disgraced in their
families and dirty...no doubt will be ostracized by the community
if their lucky and not killed by their own for the shame brought
down on them. It's not their fault, however; it's the arab
mentality....This country has not a clue what it has done to
these people and it's country...I am saddened to my soul, and
sickened to think these animals will get away with it. Read
their history.....We are a sick country and getting sicker.
Sorry for the rant....

the election when he put Saddam on trial. One of the most sensational charges against Saddam would have been Saddam's "rape rooms."

The controversy over the behaviour of British forces in Iraq switches to the high court on Wednesday as lawyers acting for the families of 14 Iraqis challenge the refusal by the Ministry of Defence to consider any legal responsibility for their deaths.

The cases include the death of Baha Mousa, a hotel receptionist allegedly killed in Basra last September by soldiers from the Queen's Lancashire Regiment, which is at the centre of the storm over photographs published in the Daily Mirror purporting to show an Iraqi prisoner being tortured.

On Tuesday, Mirror journalists were interviewed by military police about the photographs and the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, said the troops faced "serious" punishment if the pictures proved to be genuine.

So far no British soldier has been disciplined as a result of any of the incidents involving deaths or injuries to Iraqis though some occurred almost a year ago.

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I think about this torture all the time now. It's really haunting me. I have a lot of thoughts about it, and I guess I'm trying to make sense out of it.

1. This is just horrible behavior, period.
2. Do you notice that the Bush supporters are attempting to trivialize this? I keep hearing the term "Butt Pyramid" as a summation of these horrible pictures. Does anyone know what conservative blowhard coined that phrase? It almost surely came from one of the hate-media crowd. If you know, let me know.

3. I keep hearing people say, "It's not like anyone was killed". Well, sure someone was killed! One of the pictures shows a man who was beaten to death. The Pentagon acknowledges that 2 people were murdered in prison, one by military personnel and one by a private contractor. (Of course they don't know how many soldiers are dead, so how can we tell if their prison murder count is accurate). There are many people who will claim that no innocent Iraqi citizens died in the war. In the sheep view, all bombs are "smart". They only kill the bad guys. This drives me nuts.

4. OK. I think I knew all along that people were going to be tortured. Here we are in an election year. Bush blindly charged into war with Iraq with WMD as his reason. Now he is panicking because there are no WMD. All of the secrecy of his detentions, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay, have had the same characteristics, secrecy, isolation, no contact with the outside world, no press allowed, no lawyers, no judicial review, no hearings, no charges, no nothing. This is for a reason. The reason is that Bush intended to torture his captives. This was the tacit agreement he made with the American people. When Bush mugs to the camera and says he's taking off the gloves and fighting tough, this is what he means. When the American public cheers, they are cheering this type of behavior. Bush has just as much respect for the Geneva Conventions as he has for Kyoto Protocols, SALT treaties, World Court, or any other generally accepted measure. Most of the public sneer at these rules as technicalities and hinderances. They would prefer, however, not to see the pictures of what's going on.

5. And what's with the pictures? A federally operated prison should be a very secure facility. How in the world were people allowed to carry out pictures of this type? I can think of no industry with such lax security. Is anybody in charge over there?

6. What's with the homosexual theme of the pictures. We know that Cheney and Bush are obsessed with the idea of homosexuality to the extent that they want to alter our constitution to discriminate against them. We know that Ashcroft is a classic Freudian case study of twisted sexuality. The prison guards say they were taking their orders from their superiors. It's odd to see such a fascination of homosexuality.

7. What's with the conservative crowd who are still backing Bush. A couple of months ago, they were complaining about the damage to their fragile psyches caused by Janet Jackson's partially obscured nipple. They have been clammoring for a Constitutional amendment banning same sex marriages. Now they see nothing wrong with these bizarre pictures of hooded naked men who have been forced at gunpoint to act out the guards' sexual fantasies. Not only do these people not see anything wrong with the behavior, but the encourage it and say it's justified.

8. Finally, all reports I have seen state that the pictures depict "simulated" homosexual activity. How do they know it's "simulated"? Think about it. How do they know it's not real sex? If these guards get their jollies at forcing prisoners to strip naked, pile on each other, and "simulate" sex, what's to stop them from forcing people at gunpoint to perform oral sex? If there were no restrictions on them, wouldn't that go further to satisfying their sexual perversions? If the point was to humiliate the prisoners, wouldn't it be more humiliating if they had had actual sex with another man? Who is pushing this story as "simulated" sex?

Basically stating their kids did nothing wrong and that the Arabs deserved it, because they attacked New York.

if one of my children had been one of the abusers. Maybe the parents are just taking a cue from the conservative playbook of "Hey, it was somebody elses' fault."

It seems very strange to me that the same people who can't take responsibility for their own actions have no trouble blaming all Arabs for what happened on 9-11.

Aside from the fact that Iraq wasn't involved in the WTC attack, even if they had been, there is no excuse for our actions, and the only way we can atone is to pull out of Iraq right now. This country is rapidly becoming a very scary place.

They vote for the Chimpanzee because he is a good Christian man.

just think, when he's booted out of our house, bet Rove has a job lined up for him at a freak show somewhere..

NO WAY!
Please tell me this is not true.
If it is, then these ignorant arrogant ass holes
DESERVE this administration-
The rest of us should just leave and
start our own country.
The thought of these people publicly saying
something so completely stupid makes
me PUKE.
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