Soldier who left baby behind is redeployed - to give birth

A Maine Army National Guard soldier who had to leave her 4-month-old son to train with her unit for deployment to Iraq returned home early Thursday after a surprising discovery: She's pregnant again.

Platoon leader Amanda Bolduc had weaned her son, Brayden, and left him in the care of her husband to join the 133rd Engineer Battalion in Fort Drum, N.Y.

But she was left behind when the unit departed for Iraq. A pregnancy test required of all female soldiers before shipping out revealed the second lieutenant was going to be a mother again.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/state/040507mom.shtml

This was big news when she was being deployed. People cried that a mother shouldn't be torn away from her baby and all that. :eyes:

I may be more cynical than I should be but what a coincidence that she's preggers so soon after giving birth.

women could get out of the military if they were pregnant and some got pregnant to get out. Maybe that has changed.

from the military due to her pregnancy. They are always approved. I have never heard of one being turned down; it even trumps the stop-loss rules.

Families of the 372nd tormented by stories of POW abuses in Iraq


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal
-te.md.soldier30apr30,0,160127.story?coll=bal-home-headlines






At most, the 372nd's alleged abuses of prisoners were "stupid, kid things - pranks," Terrie
England said, her voice growing bitter. "And what the do to our men and women are just?
The rules of the Geneva Convention, does that apply to everybody or just us?"

Everyone had been proud of Lynndie England. A Wal-Mart in nearby LaVale displays her photo
on its Wall of Honor. The Mineral County courthouse in Keyser, W.Va., posts her photograph
and those of other local soldiers under a banner that says: "We're hometown proud."

Lynndie England had found purpose, and love, in the Army. She got engaged last year to a fellow
member of the 372nd, Charles Graner, who appears with his arm around her in the newspaper photo.

THE FIANCÉE WAR CRIMINALS




Now, Lynndie England is detained on a U.S. base - her family declined to say where - and is
barred from leaving for anything besides her job. She has been demoted from the rank of specialist
to private first class. And when she calls home, she says frustratingly little.

On Edit: The Mother of this creature is exhibiting an anti-social pattern of minimizing and
criminal thinking. I'd love to see a DSM diagnosis of both mother and daughter

does anyone not see WHY AUSCHWITZ was tolerated

isn't getting out. She's going to be getting in. Like "in" Leavenworth as an E-1 for 5-10 years. I'd LOVE to be on her court martial board.

I think before this shit is over there will be a few more Colonels and Lt Colonels from MI standing tall before the MAN.

I don't. Not a doubt in the world. That little piece of trash is looking at Leavenworth.

You have already prejudged the case. (so have I by the Way) In spite of all her alleged faults, she deserves a fair trial. I know a lot about the military-- and I'm sure she was ordered to do it.

And My perspective is not from the level of going to DININGS IN at the O-Club either.

And no, I would not be on her board any way (I'm Air Force, not Arny). I doubt very much she was ordered to do what she did. She did it becasuse she is a sick piece of crap. Even if she WAS ordered to do it (Which I found HIGHLY doubtful), she carried out an illegal order and should be punished as harshly as the UCMJ allows.

And the article in the Newyorker by Seymour Hersh? MG Miller from GITMO went to Abu Ghraib in August for a month to "make recommendations for their interrogation policy". Shortly after that the major abuses were said to have occured. Here is MG Taguba's recommendations regarding MG Miller. Who now happens to be in charge of ALL Iraqi Prisons.Now isn't that Very fucked up?!

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001

IO COMMENTS ON MG MILLER’S ASSESSMENT

1. (S/NF) MG Miller’s team recognized that they were using JTF-GTMO operational procedures and interrogation authorities as baselines for its observations and recommendations. There is a strong argument that the intelligence value of detainees held at JTF-Guantanamo (GTMO) is different than that of the detainees/internees held at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and other detention facilities in Iraq. Currently, there are a large number of Iraqi criminals held at Abu Ghraib (BCCF). These are not believed to be international terrorists or members of Al Qaida, Anser Al Islam, Taliban, and other international terrorist organizations. (ANNEX 20)

2. (S/NF) The recommendations of MG Miller’s team that the “guard force” be actively engaged in setting the conditions for successful exploitation of the internees would appear to be in conflict with the recommendations of MG Ryder’s Team and AR 190-8 that military police “do not participate in military intelligence supervised interrogation sessions.” The Ryder Report concluded that the OEF template whereby military police actively set the favorable conditions for subsequent interviews runs counter to the smooth operation of a detention facility. (ANNEX 20)

Now you tell me if she/they were given orders from MI to "soften up the prisoners" or not....

prisoners should not extend to VIOLATING the UCMJ! She was not under the orders or the supervision of MI. To suggest she was, shows a lack of understanding of how the military functions. What she did was of her own volition and was WRONG. She deserves to be punished. No solider is under any obligation to follow an illegal order.

Not unlike most repukes I know. I asked you if you had read MG Taguba's report. That might clear your head up. :eyes:

And PLEASE show me ONE thing that I have written that makes it necessary for you to insult me and call me a Repuke?

I did not insult you. I said your thinking patterns remind me of some repukes I know. I suggest you RE read MG Taguba's report so the truth sinks in.

Your name calling is reminiscent of a petulant child. I've read the report and nothing in it excuses the deplorable acts of that woman MP. Nothing!

I wonder why so many are trying to make excuses for her?

I have not seen anyone here do that. You are missing the point entirely. These soldiers are being made "fall guys" for the top military who let this happen. Thay should ALL be punished from disgusting Ms lynddie right up to Meyers and Rummy and Miller.

And rightly so. Their superiors should be investigated and brought to justice as well. If Myers and Rummy and Miller knew this was going on and allowed it, they should be punished as harshly as possible. So, I agree with you there

And PLEASE show me ONE thing that I have written that makes it necessary for you to insult me and call me a Repuke?

They never answer your question-- They pose a STRAW MAN question in response and never answer your question. You can't debate them.

They also have nothing good to offer at all and most of them, like this person, claim to be something they are not.

WTF do you mean?

I have done nothing but say:

1. The female MP needs to be punished for her actions (Yes I'm judging her guilty solely on the basis of the pictures--I don't care WHY she did it, the fact she DID it is enough)
2. Others above her, if guilty, need to be punished for their actions.
3. Myers is not a war criminal.
4. The US did not conduct a full-scale invasion of Afghanistan.

How is that disruptive and how does it make me a neo-con?

that was out way before they started talking to her freeper family.

That Lynndie doesn't have a brain with which to think for herself

And the so called LT. COLONEL here who calls her a creep, piece of trash etc. is just helping the NEOCONS direct the public's anger at the lowest ranking national guard enlisted types.

And away from the REAL CRIMINAL officers in the Regular military.

Stop trying to excuse her actions.

N/t

I've always said if they were drafting women when I was young I'd have had a very big family. This woman wasn't drafted, but neither did she have a lot of reason to think that joining the National Guard meant that she'd be deployed to the Middle East or separated from her family for such an extended time. OTOH, it does say in the article that they had a hard time conceiving the first one. That happens that way a lot, it seems - taking a very long time to a have the first one and then others following pretty quickly.

you always have the possibility of being deployed for a war. Even an ill-conceived, wretched affair such as Iraq. If you take Uncle Sugar's dime, you dance to Uncle Sugar's tune.

Very thick ones for his "contractors."

Take the pay, do the bidding. A sad, but simple truth.

...most NeoCons I know are chickenhawks and yellow to the core.

It claims to be on active duty, It is also very persistent

I know because last October it and several others engaged in a flame war against me becasue I called Colonel West a War Criminal

You know the OLD CHIMP CRY "SUPPORT THE TROOPS"
i was accused of being NON-PATRIOTIC and dangerous to the troops.

WAS gulity of UCMJ violations. What more do you want?

())))))))))))))))))))Ping(((((((((((((((((

You can't carry on a rational debate without throwing a hissy fit.

What have I said that makes you call me that?

I've spent 19 years in the Air Force; my husband spent 21.

Don't make baseless accusations.

If its on active duty and apparently at work today---- why is it here except to cause trouble ?

A number of disruptors come here and engage in useless Flame Wars to waste band-width

not an it.

...much less whether or not you're a he, she, or it?

You have to take my word for it. But the norm here on DU is to accept someone at face-value,is it not? I don't know how I can prove it to you.

n/t



Gen. BLUE SUIT MEYERS puppet boy, US military catamite, appointed by Cheney Caesar in
the year of Our Lord 2001

His quotes “Duh, we are winning” and on the increased violence that flared up this month is "a
symptom of the success that we're having here in Iraq"

And "No my hand is not grabbing at her breast"



Also on the subject of Fallujah "We went in because we had to find the perpetrators and what
we found was a huge rat's nest that is still festering today. It needs to be dealt with,"

THE PUPPET WHO NEVER READ THE REPORT BUT WHINED TO RATHER TO GET HIM TO STOP THE LYNNDIE SHOW

about his hand and "her breast?" Are you accusing him of sexual impropriety? If not, what's the point of mentioning it?

You are one of the apologists who trashed me out on this board when I said Colonel West was a War Criminal back in October.


On Edit: Hey NICE STRAW MAN argument about the Breast.

And Lt Col West was guilty; he got what he deserved.

And you brought up the breast, not me. I was asking what the point was.

Are you just here to start a flame WAR. Or do you have something important to say?

What about PIG BOY MYERS?

He's the top military officer in the country...a highly respected 4-star general. What's your point?

I'm sorry. I should have been more clear.

...your fearless leaders have gotten you into.

You should also be questioning why they haven't demanded the truth from the NeoCons as to why we're in the Middle East. Otherwise, they're just the blind leading the blind.

If they know the truth, which I strongly suspect they do, then why would you ever respect them?

Many of us DO question our civilian leadership; they have made huge mistakes.

...you can accept that if you wish, but they were never elected in the first place.

Bush is the President (de facto) and he is the leader of the US. It may not be palatable, but it is a fact. Now, call me a neo-con for stating a fact.

...to anyone in this thread. You'll find a much more receptive audience in Freeperland.

What have I said that is disruptive or not in agreement with the vast majority of those here on DU?

You've yet to point out anything I have posted that is even remotely neo-con.

...regular military was more than enough to deal with whatever conflicts we encountered overseas. Nobody believed that the NeoCons would drag us into two wars in the Middle East for little or no reason. And thanks to their stupidity, we find ourselves stretched way too thin.

IMHO, a full-blown invasion was NOT the correct option for Afghanistan...we allegedly weren't after the whole country, were we?

And what is the exact reason, or reasons, that we invaded and occupied Iraq? And please don't trot out all of the reasons that have been completely debunked to date.

I'm not an apologist for the Iraq war--I'm dead set against it!

BTW, there WAS no full-blown invasion of Afghanistan.

as to how I am "full of crap" about what we did in Afghanistan. I said we did not have a full-scale invasion of Afghanistan. Am I wrong? Did we send 100K plus troops and thousands of tanks and APCs? If so, please provide some info for me.

You claimed a full-scale invasion of Afghanistan by the US. You should have learned in high school that the one making the assertion (or claim), has to provide the documentation. You don't get to make a claim then say, "disprove me."

Is that you're suspected of displaying counter-revolutionary tendencies.

what I posted that bothers MLD and Saigon so much.

The disruptor hasn't said anything yet except defend WAR CRIMINAL MYERS

What troops does he command? What orders has he issued? Are you sure you served in the military? You sure don't understand the role of the CJCS if you call Myers a war criminal.

under the wrong impression that you can't get pregnant while breastfeeding. A nursing mother can start ovulating and get pregnant before she has her first postpartum period.

This wasn't what I intended when I posted this.

To start a flame war Kinda like MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG

That piece of crap MP is in the military and I want her and her five moron compatriots ID'd in those photos prosecuted to the full extent of the UCMJ. How is that apologizing for the military?

This has, quite obviously, gotten wildly out of hand.

Anybody is welcome to repost it, and hopefully the discussion will be more productive in a new thread.