Air force plane tapes UFOs (Mexico)

A Mexican air force plane on a mission to hunt illegal narcotics traffickers videotaped 11 unidentified flying objects (UFOs), according to a media report.

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In the tape, broadcast by Televisa network, the UFOs appear as white spots in the sky.

At first the pilots can be heard saying they think the alleged UFOs are planes carrying drug cargos.

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Then the infrared camera reveals another 10 luminous spots moving at great speed.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/12/1084289693075.html

Also, from the South African Independent Online:

Mexico City - Mexico's largest television network on Monday and Tuesday broadcast footage taken by air force pilots of what they say are unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

The footage shows bright lights with "movements and characteristics that do not have - up to now - a scientific explanation," according to the Televisa network.

The air force pilots are heard expressing amazement on the tape.

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"It is one of the most important film documents we have been able to access, especially because it comes from an official source," said Jaime Mausan, a journalist who has been tracking the UFO phenomenon for more than 25 years.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=122&art_id=qw1084294082176B252&set_id=1



Story on, ahem, Rense here, with more detail: http://www.rense.com/general52/deff.htm

My caveat: Just because something looks out of this world, doesn't mean that it necessarily is.

;-)

nt

smuggling drugs?

Oh, I see: they were spacey aliens!

Where did you get that picture? That film needs to be re-released so that people will see the truth.

It's the 'Waiting for the Saucermen' blipvert part way down the page here:
http://www.piratevideo.tv

I started doing the short videos on that site in Nov 2000, so they range from post-Sept 11 to just a few months ago when I did the most recent one (Peak Oil).

Fantastic stuff.

Many kudos to you.

Two BIG :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

of Reverend Moon!

"Turn Bush over to Gort for sanction or we'll turn your planet into a cinder"

Such power exists!

I wish

Thats classic!

They are heeeeeeereeeee- and they are up to no good :)

That would make them IFOs.

...for his views on this one! Maybe this is the BushCo October surprise....:freak:

but someone once said that the best proof that intelligent life exists on other planets is that they've never tried to contact us.

I can't take any more of Bush and his cohorts.:bounce:

I wonder why they travel in groups tho? or maybe its one craft?
questions, questions...

<nyuk, nyuk>

That's good!

It's been a long time since I heard the talk shows were "experts" call in and talk about the abductions, ETs and UFOs.

All I ask is for one of them to give us some tangible physical evidence of what they say. I haven't seen anything but photos that anyone could make. Where are the pieces of wrecked spaceships with properties and technology that doesn't exist on this planet?

Anyone?

All of the pieces of wrecked spaceships with properties and technology were confiscated by the government and are kept at a secret location in the desert Southwest U.S.

I used to laugh at these people, then the current regime came to power with the Neonazicons -- fetishizing secrecy, conducting secret searches and surveillance against civilians, and making illegal detentions, body snatching and sexual torture commonplace, in the U.S. and around the world.

Sadly, I guess now the joke is on us.

from the article:

"moving at great speed."

""movements and characteristics that do not have - up to now - a scientific explanation,"

The Mexican Air Force just got a picture of the sky-high U.S. Deficit!!!

in the literal sense of unidentified flying objects. Doesn't mean at all they're extraterrestrial.

But you do start to wonder just what they are seeing. A million inhabitants of Mexico City reported seeing UFOs in the mid 1990s. There comes a point when a million people say they saw something...they saw something. Otherwise you have no consensus reality at all. Doesn't mean they came from Alpha Centauri.


I didn't know Mexicans were still reporting UFOs -- thought the flap had been over for awhile. Interesting.

No, they are UFOs, as in Unidentified Flying Objects. The question should be: are they aliens?, not: are they UFOs?, but Wolfie ain't real bright.

overshoot White Sands and attack Mexico.
When they were testing V-2 at White Sands, I few landed in a cemetary in Juarez.

The military is probably testing all kinds of nasty things out in the southwest deserts, and if they are as competent in Area 51 as they are in Iraq and domestic policies, well......

Let's just say maybe we're lucky they didn't bomb Des Moines by accident.

they're here to save us from ourselves.

If you take a look at ">this photo, you can sort of see that the Joint Strike Fighter has three exhaust plumes, one from the main exhaust and one ducted thrust vane on each side. There are actually two interchangeable engines being developed for the aircraft, neither of which is acknowledged to be in the flying stage, but hey, how long did we have the F-117 before we admitted it? The Pratt & Whiney engine design is closely based upon the famed F-119 "supercruise" engine, already in use on the F-22.

The F-22 itself would be pretty recognizable on FLIR if it were close enough, because its exhaust is rectangular. On Rense's page (ahem), in the photograph directly beneath the one posted in this thread, one of the exhausts appears to be rectangular.

As far as being visible at short range on radar and FLIR, well, stealth aircraft aren't invisible. They just get detected at much shorter ranges. That might explain how they appeared to "come out of nowhere."

And visually, I can't offer much except in the way of speculating on optical camouflage. You gotta check out this video, but keep in mind it was made with a special camera.

I don't see how a FLIR would be able to see all three plumes on a JSF at the same time, as one should be obscured unless viewed directly from the rear.

Anyway I thought you might like a shot at a rational explanation.

more distraction for the masses. don' t look at these murders and rapes over here!

Like you sometimes get from laminated glass, such as safety glass. Can't tell anything from this little photo, though.

Not very impressive. You see such reflections every so often looking out at certain angles through airline windows.

Seems like there's an influx of UFO sightings during wartime...I think Jung wrote a thesis on this phenomenon attributing it to a collective unconsciousness wishing for intervention from a "higher power" when things are shitty in the world.

JB

is that the military is testing new toys.

JB

My personal two cents on this is that some of this hardware could be advanced black budget projects. But the UFO phenomenon goes back a lot further than Roswell, probably into antiquity.

Or we all could just be hallucinating.

Remember Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier? How many years of R&D went into that? What were the German scientists working on when they came to the US after the war?

You do have a point about antiquity, at least as far as the Bible is concerned. Ezekiel reputedly saw "a wheel in the air", for example.

They are Unidentified Flying Object Related Program Activities!

UFORPAs

Three headed frogs the initiate conversations about nuclear reactors and war. :kick:

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"Oil-field services giant Halliburton, which offers one of the broadest menus of services and equipment in the industry, has seen its business volume there nearly triple in the past three years, placing Mexico within the top tier of countries for activity."

/snip/

Houston's oil-field services companies are benefiting from Mexico's newfound will to go after its ample reserves for a few reasons, including geographic proximity. There also are longtime ties, such as Halliburton's history there since 1939.

/snip/

This Mexico work is also a reminder that Halliburton, whose military support operation has made it notorious, is even bigger in the realm of finding and producing oil.

/snip/

Innovations have been used to turn around the huge Cantarell Field in the Bay of Campeche, in which production dates to the early 1980s. Cantarell's output was down to 1 million barrels per day; now it is up to 2.1 million.




I dunno, but my radar goes up when I hear the name Halliburton, oil and the US all in one article.

So, when does Mexico get it's regime change?????
:shrug:

They are planning on liberating Mexico from the clutches of the aliens.

" Just because something looks out of this world, doesn't mean that it necessarily is."

Just because you see an enemy behind every bush does not mean that you are wrong.

What if??

The US ilitary is always 15 years ahead of what we even think can be done as a rule of thumb.

Those lights look suspiciously like lights on a plane of some sort, maybe something new.

Who knows.

1. Plastic bags filled with marsh gas.
2. Reflections in the Earth's atmosphere, or
3. Mass insanity.
John
Interestingly enough, that's from Firesign Theater and we're using it in the FUNDAY RADIO program June 19. For some reason, it seems appropriate here.
It is now 38 days, 17 hours and two minutes to FUNDAY. I hope to see lots of you folks here and, remember, I'm buying the beer.

And "earth Lights" are related to Earthquakes.


For more details on "Earth Lights" see:
http://www.acemake.com/PaulDevereux/earthlights.html

resist.

Haven't you heard of the Free Mexican Airforce?

In the Morelos mountains campesinos are planting their fields
Where the ghost of Zapata rides a horse that can still outrun the wind
There free in the sky and clear out of site
It's the free Mexican airforce, flying tonight

In the city of angels a cowboy is cooling his heels
Remembering that god gave us herbs and the fruits of the fields
But a criminal law that makes outlaws of those seeking light
made the free Mexican airforce, mescalito riding his white horse
yeah the free Mexican airforce is flying tonight

flying so high

How strange that an innocent herb causes money to burn
The day will kill you for making those rich fat cats squirm
but the fools who make rules with no difference between wrong or right
that's why the free Mexican airforce is flying tonight...

Uncle Sam in his misery put a nix on the fields of Guerrero
Saying shoot down all gringos and wetbacks that dare wear sombreros
Either run for your lives, surrender or stand up and fight
Or join the free Mexican airforce, mescalito riding his white horse
the free Mexican airforce, flying tonight

they're flying so high...

(instrumental)

Is not Marijuana destroying the minds of the young?
The confusion continued for power and greed in all forms
May the borders of evil with fall to the smugglers of light
Where the free Mexican airforce are flying tonight

In San Antonio they tell me that power and money are one
They can buy us or sell you to keep you afraid on the run
But no-one can stop us, my vision is clearly in sight
and the free Mexican airforce, mescalito riding his white horse
the free Mexican airforce is flying tonight

flying so high...

Some are smoking colitas while others are loading their guns
blowing smoke from their six shooters, spinning their barrels for fun
contrabandistas, banditos alike
were the free Mexican airforce who were flying tonight

High in the hills we are harvesting sweet sensimillia
The law wants it all cos they know that the wild weed can free ya
And freedom for us is the prison for the rulers of might
That's why the free Mexican airforce is flying tonight
The free Mexican airforce, mescalito riding his white horse

The free Mexican airforce is flying tonight!

oh, am I bringing up old sh*t?

It would be VERY advanced tech, but imagine the center of a plane and two wings pasted on the picture. The lights would be lights on the wings, and they would certainly appear to be in the same postions on both sides.

Sounds unlikely I know, but people probably would have thought the same thing about stealth bombers in the massive secrecy that went in to them.