GORE SPEECH LIVE (11 AM ET) ONLINE ONLY

http://moveon.org/

I hope this counts as breaking news.

I'm starting this a bit early as I wanted to give everyone a bit of a head start on getting their online setups going, just in case there's a lot of people trying to get online to watch.

The podium is empty, of course, but it is live already, which is good news.

What a pleasure to listen to someone with BRAINS who is actually able to pronounce words of more than one syllable! And to hear him tell it LIKE IT IS!....When he said America should be "feared only by her enemies" that rang a bell with me..a Canadian...We and many other countries in the world, who have always been your allies are now living in dread of what your president may visit upon us....I can't but believe your country will VOTE OUT the moron who is now in the White House along with his whole gang!!!

wait to see what other DU'ers thought of this speech. It said it all.....IMHO and I found it very gut wrenching to hear it all laid out by the man who really is President........

:kick:

Do we know what his topic will be?

:kick:

Governor of CA

Feldman said Gore in today's speech would use Iraq as a "departure point" for a wide-ranging critique of the Bush administration and its policies. The official announcement said the issues Gore will address include Iraq, the economy and the environment

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usgore073404875aug07,0,3073395.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

:D

lol

I'm ready to hear what Al has to say. Hope he rocks the house.

I'll be tuning in :)

Would have totally missed it, otherwise.

Thanks, Khephra. :hi: :bounce:

Gore may take a play out of Rove's playbook here.

EOM

I'm there now.

Since my audio hookup is disconnected ....

I could just wait for the release of the speech text ...

Yeah .... thats it ..

Keep checking the link in the original post.

sounds like lots of people are there from background noise......

I almost missed it myself. My computer just locked up.

But I got it rebooted, so I'm back! Looks like I didn't miss anything. He hasn't started yet.

right?

for us non video capable folks

since realplayer expects me to download an 8mb upgrade (24minutes) to view it....

grr.

dp

:-)

.

Cute, cute and cute

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :party: :hippie: :bounce:

Or if you can't watch it online.

http://moveon.org/gore-speech.html

and i can say this with sure knowledge having read it.
We were robbed in Nov. 2000...
and i want the REAL PRESIDENT back...
dp

Wow. That was a hell of a speech. Can you imagine Smirk giving a speech like that? We were robbed in 2000.

nt

..."To the contrary, the US pulled significant intelligence resources out of Pakistan and Afghanistan in order to get ready for the rushed invasion of Iraq and that disrupted the search for Osama at a critical time. And the indifference we showed to the rest of the world's opinion in the process undermined the global cooperation we need to win the war against terrorism."

now follow me on this one. gore is clearly implicitly supporting the invasion of afghanistan, the overthrow of the taliban and the pursuit of al qaeda and osama. while on one hand he says over and over again how we have been misled (at least) on virtually every question since bush took the white house, on the other hand, he seems to have no questions whatsoever on the official version of 9/11. bush lied on everything except 9/11. bush must have told us the out and out truth on that one. that's the story gore wants you to buy. huh?!?! does that strike anyone else as a unimaginably glaring oversight or internal inconsistency?

The reason Gore supported going into Afghanastan was because he and Clinton recognized that Osama bin Laden was a threat. Even if you believe that he had nothing to do with 9/11, he has already been implicated in the previous bombing of the WTC and the embassies in Africa. There was a reason that Osama was No. 1 on the most wanted list. When Bush took over, he was given a plan to attack Afghanastan in order to pursue Osama. Bush ignored it. Gore is not at all inconsistent on this issue.

It should be included in textbooks and required reading.

He hit every nail solidly on the head.

Just an amazing speech.

Too bad most sheeple will never know of it or it's contents.

and then again this AM...with the message: Gore speech on Iraq...WHEN????????

Looks like the moveon stream is "archived" I turned it on at 11:15 and it started right from the top, so you won't miss anything if you tune in late.....

Keep hounding CSPAN!!

in harms way. *sigh*

to give their talking heads more air time. :mad:

Great Speech So Far!

Talking about how the people of the U.S. were being misled

I forgot how much I love this man's voice.

"Robust debate in a democracy will almost always involve occasional rhetorical excesses and leaps of faith, and we're all used to that. I've even been guilty of it myself on occasion. But there is a big difference between that and a systematic effort to manipulate facts in service to a totalistic ideology that is felt to be more important than the mandates of basic honesty.

Unfortunately, I think it is no longer possible to avoid the conclusion that what the country is dealing with in the Bush Presidency is the latter. That is really the nub of the problem -- the common source for most of the false impressions that have been frustrating the normal and healthy workings of our democracy."

Gore just said to huge applause

Perfectly said!

Since Gore thought it was all the advisors on the economy, but they are gone now, it must be the President.

Maybe I've been wrong about Gore not being able to win if drafted. Gore is SO presidential. What a great speaker compared to the idiot. I'm impressed, very impressed.

He is definitely the kind of person one would classify as "Presidential" indeed. I always felt the media's portrayal of him as being stiff and whatnot was inaccurate, he's a quality speaker, ke obviously knows the issues, and he garnered the most votes in Presidential election history. I think if he ran again he would pull of an Electoral College victory. People do realize what a mistake they made in voting for Dubya over VP Gore.

Lack of "BASIC HONESTY"---Naming Cheney and his secret meetings...
..naming Halliburton......go AL!!

That's problem 1

Now onto problem 2---distortion of the truth....EPA stripped of global warming info.......substitue info paid for by American Petroleum Institute....Treasury now being told to change ramifications of tax law..
'Mishandling and selective use" Iraq = the distortion of best available evidence on climate change and tax policy....

POlicies chosen well in advance of the facts, using policy to help supporters.....

PROPAGANDA MACHINE to embed in public mind.....myth that GOVERNMENT IS VERY BAD except the part that redirects money to big outfits that have won their way into the inner circle!! And the wealthy should be left alone...

Hidden social agenda, now going after COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM...
test of compassion is ACTION!!!!

GO AL!!!!

that's out of Orwell's 1984!!!!

He is basically summarizing all of our fears and concerns of the past year in one short and sweet speech!!!!

Restoration of Checks and Balances.....oversight of Executive Branch...

New cluster of "new myths."

Onto nukes treaty, rejection of it, new nukes program....Point of no return.....


GO AL!

We have to harrass CSPAN!!

I wish this guy would run for pres. I'm a tentative Dean supporter, but I still think Gore's the man.

Go AL!!!

I've been helping to run the local Dean Meetup. I told them at the beginning if it looked like Gore would get back in or could be coaxed back in I was booking. So, in the words of William Shatner, "I'm outta here."

...that implies he is going to endorse someone before the actual nomination...I'm a Dean supporter, but whomsoever Al endorses should be, and likely will be, the nominee.

WOW!!!

"if we have to put up with such a broad invasion into our privacy, the 9-11 commission should learn how the cabinet handled specific warning s about 9-11

and rein in Ashcroft
Rumsfield
Total information awareness program thats out of 1984"

more or less... I'm speachless...

wish we'd tried it harder.

the repukes STOLE the WH, they did NOT by any measure WIN it. (except by a partisan vote of the SCOTUS)

Gore won the popular and electoral votes

CLinton/Gore....honest budget nos. etc.

"WE HAVE WORK TO DO!!!"

His speech was considered, cogent and seering. The truth and nothing but the truth. He should make the sacrifice for the good of the country.

...I didn't watch, but rather read the speech. We did this country a grave disservice by not elevating this man to his rightful place. Two things:

Al says that he will endorse one of the candidates later in the election cycle. This implies he will do so before the nomination. It is my opinion that whomsoever Al Gore endorses should be the nominee, and likely will be the nominee.

He is so incredibly spot on. He ties it all together, and delivers it well.

I'm just choked up. Al Gore is, today, just one of us, an incredibly intelligent, well-read man with great ideas, intimately familiar with the issues and challenges that face us. The fact that he says all this so brilliantly, without being a candidate, is great. He opened doors last year when he spoke out, and here he is opening them again. He's encouraging us to continue to challenge Bush, and taking it a step further. He's saying, "It's not just the advisors, it's the whole structure of the ideaologues who hold the reigns of power in the GOP. All of them must go."

Whew!

I am basically an unemotional SOB, but reading this speech brought out how deeply and how profoundly the bush cabal has wounded my country, and I am weeping for all that has been lost since 2001.

GOD DAMN THE SLIME THAT BROUGHT THE BUSH DISASTER UPON US!

Articulate, noncombative...just the facts. WOW!

Saved the speech to hard drive.

Definately a warning bell to AMERICA!

Hope this gets good coverage/

Gore and I think alike, I have decided that. He articulates it a little better than I do. That was a nice talk to hear given.

if he had won. How many soldiers would be alive. How much respect
the world would still have for America. How we would have enjoyed
our Budget Surplus.

If he runs, I will get out the vote for him--for sure.
His speech was outstanding! A breath of fresh air in the cesspool
of Bush smash-o-nomics, and eve of destruction politics.

Once you start mentioning endorsing someone else, even if you don't do it then, that's a clear signal that you're out of the running.

(from the last paragraph):

I am proud that my party has candidates for president committed to those values. I admire the effort and skill they are putting into their campaigns. I am not going to join them,

his country really needs him, and his country really needs him, that
he can't be convinced to run. I like Dean, but in my heart of hearts,
Gore should have had the job, has served as VP, and has the name
recognition to take back America.

This is the most important Election in our nation's history. It is
a must-win. Gore can win.

1. Gore would have been aware of Al Qaeda. Although a Gore admin. might not have prevented it they would have taken the threats a lot more seriously than GW. (More than likely a Gore administration would have warned the American public, then they would have been ridiculed in the reight-wing press.)

2. Gore recognizes that dependence on foreign oil and other energy resources complicates foreign policy. More than likely the government would have stepped up efforts for alternative fuel sources after Sept. 11.

3. Not in Iraq as a military force. A Gore administration would have read the entire report including the non-existent footnotes and more importantly the appendix of any report concerning Iraqi-terrorist involvement. More than likely any involvement in Iraq would be with the cooperation of the UN. (Hmmm, working WITH the UN, what a concept.)

4. We would wouldn't be freaking out so much about an overzealous Attorney General.

5. Taking steps towards implementing recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report.

6. Treating foreign governments and their leaders as sovereign nations rather than bullying them with the same type of republican tactics they use to railroad America.

7. In negotiations with North Korea.

8. A real economic team whose focus would be helping the American people rather than business interests.

9. cooperation with the families of Sept. 11. in determining what really happened and who was responsible.

10. NO WHITE HOUSE OTHER THAN THE REAL WHITE HOUSE.

Those are just the ones that pop off the top of my head. I'm sure there are dozens, nay hundreds, of other ways that America would be different.

printed in every newspaper and tacked to every telephone poll! (unfortunately it's long and takes an intelligent person to understand it......) but I hope this get's played and every DU'er has a chance to read or hear it. It should go down in history as a magnificent moment for those of us who have been waiting to hear our "President" speak.

http://moveon.org/gore-speech.html

Man I wish he'd run!

Clear, intelligent and straight forward. I absolutely agree to a previous post--this speech should be required reading for every Democrat, and we should pass it on to everyone else as well.

He clearly and concisely articulated our concerns with Bush*

AND

He spoke eloquently about the values of the Democratic Party.

btw: sorta made Lieberman look trite didn't he?

make Lieberman look trite - that is.

Gore knows whats happening and he knows how to articulate it. He will not run, but his endorsement will carry a lot of weight.

over...
Clear, so on message, wraps it all up in one neat package.
A brilliant speech.

If Gore had spoken this well on the stump in 2000, there would have been no opportunity to steal the presidency.

Sorry boys, but even Gore knows that the righteousness of this war, as Lieberman calls it, is just a false impression.

Endorsing Lieberman would make Gore look like nothing he's said in the past two years were true. That's yet another nail in the coffin of Lieberman's campaign coffin. Can you imagine how the press will run with it when Gore endorses someone other than Lieberman?

LOL!

:evilgrin:

available on demand! Mass emails the link to all it's members.
Or cspan runs it so I can record it. Something, he was excellent!

a place to e-mail comments. I'm a member.....maybe I can reply to one of the old e-mails from Eli.

If anyone else knows a way to get it online......please post. Or, post a way to contact Move On to see if they can archive it.

Just got an email from them. They are so on it already.

http://moveon.org/

Really fast work, right?

(snip) Gore Assails Bush Policies in U.S., Iraq

Thursday August 7, 2003 5:29 PM


By RICHARD PYLE

Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - Former Vice President Al Gore, assailing U.S. policies in Iraq and at home, on Thursday argued that the Bush administration ``routinely shows disrespect'' for the ``honest and open debate'' that produces the truth.

``I think it's partly because they feel they already know the truth, and aren't very curious to learn about any facts that might contradict it,'' Gore said in a speech at New York University.

The 2000 Democratic presidential nominee, addressing about 600 people in a speech sponsored by the liberal activist group Moveon.Org, said the nation's military and economic policies under President Bush had upset many Americans.

``The direction in which our nation is being led is deeply troubling to me, not only in Iraq but also at home, on economic policy, social policy and environmental policy,'' Gore said. (snip/...)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3000317,00.html

interested than our own community here at home. This will be taken seriously by serious minds and powers......I hope at least.

I'm surprised there isn't more interest here by folks up in GD Forum where Swartzenneger and Candidate wars are reigning. But, maybe most people didn't have a chance to hear the speech or read it yet......:-(

"(1) The tax cuts would unleash a lot of new investment that would create lots of new jobs.

(2) We wouldn't have to worry about a return to big budget deficits -- because all the new growth in the economy caused by the tax cuts would lead to a lot of new revenue.

(3) Most of the benefits would go to average middle-income families, not to the wealthy, as some partisans claimed.

Unfortunately, here too, every single one of these impressions turned out to be wrong. Instead of creating jobs, for example, we are losing millions of jobs -- net losses for three years in a row. That hasn't happened since the Great Depression. As I've noted before, I was the first one laid off." :D

And they have the NERVE to say he's stiff and humorless...

You are Mr. Wonderful. And keep fighting until your last breath.

I just read it from Gore News...our algore04.com
is having some positive changes being done...new name under

Al Gore Democrats.com
The internet's largest gathering place for Gore supporters...organize, discuss and act.

So look for it in the near future...I believe it will be up and running soon.

Al's speech was wonderful to read, I can imagine how good it must of been to listen to it live.
He's a true patriot and president of the people!

Thank you for saying it like it is...being a VOICE for us AL! :-)

Just visited the Al Gore Democrats.com, and saw this, from Al Gore TV!


AL "Trent" Gore

His Saturday Night Live show was amazingly good.

Anyone who didn't see that event, would be so interested in this!
http://www.algoredemocrats.com/tv/

THANK YOU!

This will go down in memory as one of the great speeches I have ever heard, not just because of its eloquence, but also because it was never needed more than now.

after 5:00p EST at http://moveon.org/ for those that missed it or just want to see it again :)

Here: http://www.c-span.org/

Under 'Latest Video'.

:bounce:

We're all very excited about President Gore's speech today, but in order to keep LBN neat and tidy, it's time to lock some of the duplicate threads on this topic.

Let's consolidate our discussion into the following two threads:

Khephra's thread (this thread!) early this morning, alerting DUers to the speech:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=55249&mesg_id=55249

JaneQPublic's thread this afternoon, for media reaction to the speech:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=55584&mesg_id=55584

Thanks!
VolcanoJen
DU Moderator

Thanks!
VolcanoJen
DU Moderator

Yep! No difference between Bush* and Gore! Nonewhatsoever AT ALL! :argh: :grr: :mad: :nuke: To that, I say this, all those who believed that then and believe it still......... Happy now?, Are you happy now?, I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY NOW!

He MUST run. He can bring the world together. I am in awe of his speech. He hit every single issue squarley on the head, and indicted the most corrupt administration to EVER serve in the White House...or is that "loot" the White House?

I accuse Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Perle/Wolfowitz/Murdoch/Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter/Rove/Fleischer/and all the rest of BETRAYING AMERICA. How dare they fill their pockets with what little the people have? I am sick of arrogance, dishonesty, and the judgemental attitude of the very few.

Al Gore, if you read Democratic Underground, please realize that I am a Tennesean, I have voted for you in every single election in which you ran since I was old enough to vote (I am now 36). I admire you profoundly, and always have. If you will run, I will take my sorry Appalachian hillbilly ass out into the cold Republican wilderness that surrounds me here in Carter County, Tennessee, and PROUDLY stump for you! PROUDLY.

Save us from ourselves and those who would manipulate honest, caring, hardworking people who want nothing more than to be happy and loved. The majority of Americans are UNLIKE the usurpers of the White House. They need to be awakened to their predicament, and someone who loves them all must be the one to do it.

Thank you, sir.

You know, while I was listening I was thinking two things:

1) He may do far more good while NOT being a Presidential candidate, because there will be fewer restraints on what he must say, and he won't be having to play to the cameras so much;

2) I don't know how they're going to let him get away with telling the truth like this. I am very afraid for him right now.

He is bullet proof. America would LOVE to show this bunch what for...and what better way to do it than by running the man who most Americans believe REALLY WON THE 2000 ELECTION. Most Americans believe in fair play. I think even our Supreme Court would rule differently today. by a 6-3 vote.

but I have to say he seemed clear on not running.

I still want him to be drafted and think he should be.

But I now must go with Dean as the best candidate and I SUPPORT GORE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE!!!

Run Al. PLEASE RUN!!!

I read the speech and was like - okay this is good BUT...

LISTENING TO AL I THINK HE SOUNDS GREAT AND WE NEED HIM TO RUN!!!!


PLEASE KEEP YOURSELF AND YOUR DAUGHTERS AND WIFE AND FAMILY OUT OF SMALL AND OTHER AIRCRAFT. CRASHES BY EMP ARE NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION WITH THE BFEE.

‘Draft Gore’ efforts step up across state

By Shir Haberman
shaberman@seacoastonline.com

PORTSMOUTH - The field of potential Democratic nominees could increase by one shortly.

The Draft Gore 2004 Committee officially launched its activities in New Hampshire Thursday, by mailing letters to 147 town party chairmen across the state and announcing a write-in campaign for the former vice president.

"We think he is the best man for the job," said Mac Hathaway, who is heading up organizing the Draft Gore efforts in the state. "He was denied a job (in 2000) and we were denied a vote."
cont'd at http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/08082003/news/43747.htm

A Web site for the Draft Gore effort has been set up. It is http://draftgore.com.

GET INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:party:

via Canada.....thank you for the welcome

Yes he must.....

get involved...scream....beg.....for the love of humanity...

Reinstating the Draft
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25726-2003Aug6.html

A 10th Democratic presidential candidate? Draft Gore 2004 http://www.electgore04.com/ one of a handful of groups trying to lure former vice president Al Gore back into public life, will announce today a write-in campaign for the thus-far non-candidate in New Hampshire. The effort will largely consist of a publicity campaign intended to rally voters there, the site of the first presidential primary, to support the only person the committee says can defeat President Bush.

"The desire for a rematch is a very powerful motivator," said one of its organizers, Mac Hathaway, referring to the 2000 election. "I think the Democratic Party is tremendously remiss in ignoring that."

The group will send letters to the Granite State Democratic Party, along with its town committees around the state. Later, Hathaway said, the California-based group will probably place newspaper ads there and open a local campaign office.

The group got a bit of moral support yesterday from former New York governor Mario M. Cuomo. According to the Associated Press, Cuomo told an Albany-based radio station that he wouldn't mind seeing Gore run again next year.

"Right now, the Democratic voice is not a single voice. It is not a chorus -- it is a babble," Cuomo said. "I would like to see him get in."

Not going to happen, said Michael Feldman, a spokesman for the former vice president.

"Absolutely not," he said. "He's not going to be running."
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if the overwhelming demand exists...if Dem's insist...he will run
Canadian under duress


-DraftGore: http://www.draftgore.com/
-Al Gore Support Center: http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/
-Gore 2004: http://www.gore2004us.com/
-Elect Gore 2004: http://www.electgore04.com/

and then there's the following that just began ....

To: Al Gore / Democratic Party

Sign this Petition http://www.petitiononline.com/Gore04/petition.html to urge Al Gore to run for President in 2004, recently President Bush has lied about Iraq, gave billions in tax cuts to the rich causing states to raise taxes, and invaded our civil liberties. Polls still show STRONG support for Al Gore. Fight back by getting a strong Democrat in the race for President! Al Gore!

That one got saved and printed. I got goose bumps reading it. It was everything I have been wanting to say, but couldn't find the words to say it.

Thank you, Al Gore.

(I, too, was struck by a sense of melancholy while reading it, and I voted Libertarian in the 2000 election. I would imagine the world would look very different today if the real President were in the White House, and not merely the Squatter.)

Gore couldn't have distanced himself from him more.
Speaking with MoveOn, right after Lieberman rips on Moveon as 'far left'.

I loved every minute of it.
I can't think of a more important statement at a more important time.
One of the best ever!

That's what Al didn't tell us, and Lieberman is pretty far right for a dem candidate...

should pick Al Gore for a running mate, but alas he probably won't take it.

I am going to comment before I read any responses in this thread. Just finished listening to Al Gores speech. Read it twice today on Buzzflash. In my opinion it is the most important political speech in my lifetime. Absolutely amazing. How do I know it was important? The major cable networks quickly switched to Colin Powell, and Rush went apoplectic. To say that Gores speech was anything less than a damning indictment of this administration and its policies would be an understatement. Way to go Al. The supreme court said my vote did not count and put nothing more than a criminal in your house. I should have marched in the streets for you. My apologies.

Simply stunning. I cannot BELIEVE he came right out and SAID what we have been thinking. I've never seen anything like it. Awesome!

> In my opinion it is the most important political speech in my lifetime. <

I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone should download the text and commit it to memory. This speech is the most comprehensive and insightful assessment of our times...definately one for the history books. Thank you, Al Gore!
:kick:

Omigod. I can't believe what I hear when he opens his mouth. He says what I've been thinking; he says it in a clear and concise manner; and he is able to articulate nuances without tying up his tongue.

I've never gotten over 2000 and this speech is one more reason why.

We need to find away to get him to run. America deserves a leader and the world deserves a statesman. We and they get it in Gore.

Moyers' speech at the Take Back America Conference in June of this year. If you liked Big Al telling it like it is, you'll love Bill doing the same thing. Both gave me hope for the future of this country, something I seem to have misplaced. Check it out.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0610-11.htm

close to the time his ex=running mate blasted MoveOn. They have moved in opposite directions since little george was annointed.

I'd love to get a copy of Gore's speech.

We have streaming video in all three major versions - - QuickTime, RealPlayer and WindowsMedia, plus a special broadband version available in QuickTime only.

Transcript and video can be found here:
http://www.algoredemocrats.com/news/gnn/EpypkyAVZEchXicSeq.shtml

We have most of Gore's major speeches and 2002 interviews online in our Gore TV section:
http://www.algoredemocrats.com/tv

Transcripts of many of his major speeches can be found in our transcript section:
http://www.algoredemocrats.com/gorefacts/speeches/index.shtml