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hedgetrimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:07 AM
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Prisoner-abuse soldier pictured having sex with guards
~SNIP~

" was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said one senator.

"Almost everybody was naked all the time," another said.

~SNIP~

"I don’t know how the hell these people got into our army," said Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, from Colorado. "There were several pictures of Iraqi women who were disrobed or putting their shirts up. They were not smiling in the pictures, that’s for sure. But it didn’t look like they had been beaten or hurt."

~SNIP~

The single most destructive spasm of violence at the prison took place in daylight on 24 November. By the end of the riot, three Iraqis had lost their lives and nine were wounded, Nine US soldiers were injured.

... more ...

link: http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=547922004

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Slowly the pieces come to paint the picture of life for the U.S. troops and the Iraqi prisoners of Abu Ghraib... now I see they are all prisoners... locked into events that are beyond them and they are stuck in having to go on with it... (silence)...
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:09 AM
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1. The worst part is...
That these pictures and videos will make it onto the net at some point. Furthermore, Lynndie will ultimately pose for a spread in Hustler and those pictures will get out there too.

Oh, the humanity.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:32 AM
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9. The rape pictures are already on the net . . .
. . . (I think.) :shrug:

http://joevialls.altermedia.info/myahudi/rape.html

It doesn't exactly look consensual. And, according to this website, some of the women were killed after being raped. ??? I guess we'll eventually find out if these pictures are authentic. :(

TYY
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nonbelief Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:06 AM
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13. Those are stills from a porn movie
The photos of "rape'in Iraq on the site you linked to are in fact stills from a porn movie, that have been doing the rounds for a while.

The real rape photos and video footage have yet to leak.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:51 AM
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16. The author says that they are not staged . . .
"For nearly two months I have been in possession of images far worse than these, in fact so sickening that even as a retired combat veteran myself, they turned my stomach. After receiving the images through Jordan from women's refuges in Iraq and other sources, I agonized week after week about posting them on the Internet, before coming to the conclusion that this would be a practical impossibility, at least until one of America's own "respected" media outlets showed at least some of these disgusting torture pictures, and before an 'alternative media' site in turn tried to pretend that the pack rape images were "staged porn".

The likelihood of a sophisticated COINTELPRO operation is strongly reinforced by World News Daily titling its report, Bogus GI rape photos used as Arab propaganda, while at the same time challenging the website, Committee for the Defense of Saddam Hussein and Albasrah, to "remove the photos from the website and admit they are staged images". No respectable website would do this without hard evidence, which WND does not present, and especially not in the face of corroboration from women's refuges inside Iraq."

http://joevialls.altermedia.info/myahudi/rape.html

________

The only way any of us will know the truth about these pictures is if the Pentagon releases what they have to the public. Until that time, any images that ARE leaked to the internet will promptly be labeled as staged porn.

TYY
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:07 AM
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14. No they're not... those are "rape porn" pictures.
You can find tons of stuff like this on the net.

These same pictures have been used before, and they are STILL not pictures of the rapes that actually occured.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:01 PM
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18. How do you know that? . . .
. . . The author maintains that they are authentic. I don't frequent porn sites on the internet so I'm not in a position to be certain, but since is sounds like perhaps you do have knowledge of internet porn, can you show me where these pictures were posted at a porn site prior to 2004? I have no doubt that once the Pentagon releases the real Iraq rape images, they will end up on porn sites. Do you have evidence that these were posted to the internet prior to 2004?

TYY
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:14 AM
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2. "Almost everybody was naked all the time,"
:wtf:
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:17 AM
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3. Sounds like a Manson Family picnic!
Jeebus...
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:22 AM
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4. Bring Out The Gimp
Edited on Fri May-14-04 01:24 AM by phrenzy
All I can think of the more I hear about this place is a whole prison turned over to "Zed" - "Bring out the gimp" - Then Lyndie England comes out.

I think this whole twisted thing was multifaceted. I think that you had the systematic 'breaking down' of the prisoners as a matter of course, but then I think this in turn led to an 'anything goes' environment which allowed England & Co. to go nuts w/ the Gang Bangs etc and turn the whole place into some twisted fetish palace.

The Gimps' sleepin'

Man, this is quickly becoming one of the most depraved wars ever. I mean, just getting sicker and sicker in the most intimate of ways.

Can't wait for the movies and magazine spreads that are inevitably coming as a result of "Abu Gharib'
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:26 AM
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5. I wonder if that prison twisted their minds
I mean that had to be one freaky place to work...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:45 AM
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6. So, what,
was this prison some sort of weird perverted sex camp or something?

Just how shocking are the photos we haven't seen? I can use my imagination, but I fear it's just not brutal enough.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:50 AM
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7. It's like Clockwork Orange meets Lord of the Flies.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:23 AM
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8. add some dueling banjos n/t
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 03:52 AM
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10. urghhhhh...

..some Toby Keith, perhaps?
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frankieT Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:14 AM
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15. there are more explicit examples
some exploitation movies in the 70's.
the most famous is the S&M Ilsa She Wolf of The SS by Jess Franco.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 04:05 AM
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11. Diverting the anger to a sidetrack
So, there are several hundred pictures about prisoners abused and tortured. If these pictures show consensual sex among guards - what has this to with the abuse EXCEPT that it shows how kinky these "foul apples" were?

Why has someone included these with the other pictures? Why are senators and media focusing at the sex pictures?

Because that's what gets peoples attention off the fact that the abuse was SYSTEMATIC.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:55 AM
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17. That's what I think, too
get everyone thinking of it as a frat party... that's how they want to spin it.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 04:54 AM
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12. "Almost everybody was naked all the time"
But some of the people were naked just some of the time.

Clothes make the man: don't judge a book by it's cover - for haste makes waste: he who hesitates is lost.
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demoman123 Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:07 PM
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19. Ah, some hott sex after you've just gotten done torturing some people!
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:07 PM by demoman123
To paraphrase Rush Limbaugh, it's a great way to blow off steam! :)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:26 PM
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20. At a bare minimum (sorry for the pun)
This casts doubt on the professionalism of the U.S. army.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 03:14 PM
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21. You can see the Lynndie interview...
Go here and click on the link ....
bottom line under News 4 Video

http://www.kcnc.com/
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 03:42 PM
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22. I'd lift my shirt up for a photo if someone with a gun was nearby! N/T
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