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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:58 AM
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Pvt. England details specific abuse /humiliations
"She said guards forced detainees to crawl on their hands and knees on broken glass, threw a heavy ball at handcuffed prisoners and forced male detainees to wear women's 'maxi pads'."

Everyone Knew:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/10812117?source=PA

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 11:05 AM
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1. I'm sure she was encouraged, but she's also a creep
<Although England implicated more senior soldiers in the scandal, she told investigators that much of the abuse was "basically us fooling around".

<"We thought it looked funny, so pictures were taken," she said.>
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:39 PM
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2. Please keep talking.
She can redeem herself by exposing the details of her experiences.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 01:53 PM
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3. JUST A COINCIDENCE mentrual blood smeared on Camp X-Ray Prisoners?!
"It appears to be exactly the same techniques used in Afghanistan as were used in Iraq. I don't think they're getting their techniques over the Internet. There's obviously some systemic training."

Senator Patrick Leahy, May 12, 2003


They put a lot of research into the Maxi Pad/Mentrual Blood torture. This is NOT something Miss England and her buddies thought up on their own.

http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/2004/CampXray.htm
My Hell in Camp X-Ray

"Prisoners who had never seen an "unveiled" woman before would be forced to watch as the hookers touched their own naked bodies.

The men would return distraught. One said an American girl had smeared menstrual blood across his face in an act of humiliation.

Jamal said: "I knew of this happening about 10 times. It always seemed to be those who were very young or known to be particularly religious who would be taken away."






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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:20 PM
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4. what I don't understand is how do folks (US) think this shit is going
to help. all we're doing is raising the next group of terrorist, and of course we will call them crazy and wonder what did we do to them.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:48 AM
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7. <freeper> because it makes us look tough!
Al Qaida was emboldened to attack us on 9/11 because Clinton made us look weak! We have to show them we're tough and won't back down! Then they'll fear us and do what we want! Yeah!

This is known as the "Schoolyard Bully" theory of international relations. Most effective with nations where the oldest person is 12.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:09 AM
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9. I don't think they "want " it to help
The only thing I can figure is that it is part of the PNAC plan to keep us at war for as long as possible. I think they will do whatever it takes to evoke a massive Arab response.

Alas, I am no optimist.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:50 AM
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8. mentrual blood smeared ON POW FACES
HEY I WANT PICTURES OF THAT TO PUT ON A SIGN I AM GOING TO CARRY IN THE NEXT BIG PEACE MARCH
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:24 AM
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10. Yah. Sure. Like all the other coinkydinks since Bunnypants* & Pals
Seized our Free Nation to put it under their Iron Boot.

Sure, it's just a harmless frat prank, don't you know?

:puke:

Our military has disgraced itself with a stain that may NEVER wash away. Why? because once they became Imeprial Amermacht Soldiers serving Emperor Bunnypants* instead American Soldiers serving the Old Republic, their deterioration into Imperial Soldiers of Tyrannical Nature was preordained.

Only Free Countries treat prisoners better than Imperial Amerika and the rest of the Thrid World Nations.

Only the Free World does that (and not even all of them), so there is absolutely no hope that Imperial Soldiers would behave like the Soldiers of Free Nations.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:52 PM
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5. I think it has all the makings
of a new Toby Keith song. Maybe he can work in the Fallujah massacre of civilians with the torture, head bags and the maxi pads. I don't know how it will rhyme with his "boot up your ass" line, he'll work it out.
So proud to be an American these days.
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:44 AM
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6. This sounds more like Petey Pablo's rap song: "FREAK-A-LEEK!"
Edited on Wed May-19-04 10:52 AM by Barkley
"Do you want it on the floor?
Do you want it on the chair?
Do you want it over here?
Do you want it over there?
... Do you want it in ya ass?
I can give anything you can handle!"


{Chorus:}
FREEK-A-Leek

(How you like it daddy?)Mohammed
Hassan

(How you like it daddy?)Osama
FREEK-A-LEEK
Yasser

(How you like it daddy?)Jammal
Jamil

(How you like it daddy?)Yusef
FREEK-A-LEEK, Ibrahim

(How you like it daddy?)Yassim
Nawal

(How you like it daddy?)Karim
FREEK-A-LEEK
Farouk
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