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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:07 PM
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GOP pushes $2.4T budget through House
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/lateststories/index.ssf?/base/politics-3/1084983242187190.xml

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans began pushing a $2.4 trillion budget for next year through the House on Wednesday and, at the same time, criticized moderate GOP senators opposed to the measure's weakened limits on tax cuts.

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Hastert said the House would not let those moderates "nail us down so we couldn't react to the economy" by making it harder to cut taxes.

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The budget would provide increases President Bush requested for next year for defense and domestic security spending. It also includes $50 billion he has not yet sought for next year's costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Under Congress' rules, final congressional passage of a budget would let the House avoid a direct vote later on a politically sensitive bill that would raise the government's borrowing limit by an additional $690 billion to $8.1 trillion.

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:24 PM
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1. Neocons are trying to bankrupt this country...and this proves it
There is no other rational explanation for this insane spending.

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rebellious woman Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:30 PM
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3. BFEE revenge! Hell bent for his armeggedon and the great rapture! I
Edited on Wed May-19-04 12:32 PM by rebellious woman
believe the sooner the better...Maybe then mother
earth can have peace..God knows the humans will never
let her, look at what we have done to planet earth! It
didn't even take four years....
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:48 PM
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10. They are trying to steal back every penny paid out in SS.
Edited on Wed May-19-04 01:48 PM by gsh999
And destroy Social Security and Medicare at the same time. Even the blind can see their agenda. The only ones who cannot see are the brainwashed, ignorant millions who blindly follow their neocon leaders.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:05 PM
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11. Don't worry they will try to make sure most don't know about it
http://www.drizzle.com/~bongboy/pms/fascist_propaganda.html

Neo-Conservative Fascist Propaganda For the Mindless
By Brent VanDevender and Chuck Valentine


An intellectual, writer and political activist, I have gotten quite sick of the ignorant political propaganda which has almost completely dominated the American mass media, especially since 9/11.

These fundamentalist neo-conservative fascists deliberately murder thousands of American civilians and military personnel and millions of innocent foreign civilians and military personnel. They profit from the war and chaos and extreme hatred that follow.

They have taken away almost all of America's freedom, dignity and intellect. Neo-conservative fascists like Bill O' Reilly of Fox News keep the ignorant American masses brainwashed with his ridiculous political propaganda which only someone with the intelligence quotient of a six month old baby would believe. Far too many Americans absorb the vile rantings of a politically motivated jackass such as O'Reilly because they've been trained to accept lies as truths when repeated enough and because of the passivity which television imposes on the masses who are already too busy and/or lazy to think for themselves. Given the collusion between the news media in this country and the neocon power machine, most Americans accept this slanted 'reporting' as gospel, never seeking out what really happened. The US news media eagerly collaborate with the political interests of their masters to suppress legitimate stories and to repeat lies as truth until accepted by the public. Many recent examples of suppressed stories can be found at Project Censored http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/index.html

Simultaneously, Al-Jazeera keeps the ignorant Arab masses brainwashed with equally ridiculous political propaganda. The effects of this brainwashing are that an Arab is brainwashed into killing an American so that the American government can say "We don't know where these people came from but they just killed a lot of you. Do you mind if we go kill them?" The American reaction is, of course, an emphatic "Yes!" which results in overt aggression and desperate acts of terrorism performed by the most depraved opponents of civilization itself, the New World Order, lead by the Bush administration, against yet more innocent civilians and military personnel in central Asia.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:27 PM
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2. These feakin' RWers are completely out of control!!!
They are killing this country.

:argh:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:45 PM
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5. But that's what they want, so it can be "reborn" in the Bushevik Image
which is likely a grotesque melange of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Imperial Rome, Pinochet's Chile and Marcos' Phillipines.

But it doesn't resemble any Free Nation that ever existed, including the Old Republic it is trying to replace.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:35 PM
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4. Man, that is whole lot of less governement
:eyes:
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:01 PM
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6. Why a $690 bln limit raise for a $367 bln deficit?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:10 PM
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17. Because they are lying
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:22 PM
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7. They all seem like crooks to me
I listened this author yesterday on Democracy Now, he left no doubt (and filled one of my final suspicions). To me they all need swept out so the nation can get a fresh start. The only thing they all seem to know how to do is compromise to in effect screw most everybody but the ultra rich.



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NON-PARTISAN exposé on how our gov't is screwing us, May 17, 2004
Reviewer: John from Riverdale, MD
Despite repeated statements to the contrary, THE AUTHOR, DAVID CAY JOHNSTON IS IN FACT A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.

I don't know where people get the idea the author is a liberal. Maybe because his book criticizes George W.'s tax policies. They seem to overlook the fact that he just as often criticizes Bill Clinton's policies. He goes on to show that regardless of party affiliation, for several decades our elected officials in the whitehouse and congress have been continuously and consistently shifting more and more of the cost of running this country from those who are most able to pay to those who are struggling to get by.

I'm about half way through the book, and I'm already thinking I need to buy a copy and give it to everyone I know. I think we should demand our senators and congress people all read this book and then tell us what they are going to do to guarantee the super rich take up their fair share of the tax burden and lighten it for those at the bottom. And if they don't enact it within a year, we'll vote them out office. And we won't accept a short term pacifier that will later transform into an even greater burden. We need a permanent solution.

This book explains in terms most people can understand the various ways in which our tax system cheats the average American. Even if the topic of taxes and finances typically makes your brain cloud over, you'll still be understand this book. The use of several examples to explain a given point help you grasp the concepts. I finally got impatient and jumped to the chapter whose title seemed to suggest might it contain the author's suggested solution "Is Reform Possible?". He points out problems with some recently suggested fixes, but doesn't suggest one himself. I think part of the problem is that while most people, after reading this book, will agree our current system is unfair, it's hard to agree on what a fair system would look like.

Every American citizen who pays taxes needs to read this book.
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1591840198/002-0048185-9531210?v=glance#product-details

Liston the interview hear
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/18/1350212
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:26 PM
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8. I'm convinced * will be remembered as the worst president ever.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:38 PM
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9. I hear the sound of GOPers digging their own political graves.
They will pay for their fiscal irresponsibility.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:07 PM
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12. we'll be the ones paying
And, whoever is unlucky enough to be running the government when the chickens finally come home to roost.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:23 PM
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13. For the first time, I sent a blazing letter to my state's only Repub
Rep. this morning on their demand to extend *'s tax program for the wealthy and increase the $1000/kid tax credit to those couples making up to $289,000/yr. I was so angry that I forgot to save a copy of my email letter before I submitted it. I have written to this guy about a dozen times a month and I don't think he has ever agreed with or voted for anything I supported. Until now, I have been very polite and the good deal is that his office always sends back a response... But today, I told him that I had had it with the Repub House and their inane spending..hundreds of billions for corporation speciality tax breaks, the 'might makes right' police of Chimpy, the fear mongering, the disrespect of the religious right of the US Constitution, etc. He represents Bentonville, Arkansas, home to the Walton family (Wal-Mart) who got a total of $984 million in tax savings from the Republicans!! I said I would do everything in my power to take back my country in November. I suppose Asscroft will be sitting on my back step when I get home.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:52 PM
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14. Borrow and Spend! Borrow and Spend! Borrow and Spend!

Red ink! Red ink! Borrow and Spend! :evilgrin:
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:42 PM
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15. 700 BILLION DEFICIT??
yowsa

sell dollars..
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:48 PM
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16. Senate will defeat it
Susan Collins says that she will vote no and they say she is just one of 5 moderate republicans to oppose the budget. I assume they are Snowe, Chafee, McCain, and Collins along with maybe Voinovich or Specter I guess. So, it seems clear that the budget won't get enough votes in the Senate so the budget will fail.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:12 PM
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18. 25% of GNP? A 1 Trillion Dollar Govt was just 4years ago!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:41 AM
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19. it'll be a tougher fight in the senate
lets see if the mod repubs will stick to their guns or fold under pressure.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:48 AM
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20. $50 BILLION not
even asked for? WTF!
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