GOP gay group booted from N.C. convention

GOP gay group booted from N.C. convention

Gay Republicans in North Carolina said state party officials told them their group isn't welcome at a convention this weekend because "homosexuality is not normal" and their agenda is "counterproductive to the Republican agenda."

Bill Peaslee, a spokesman for the state GOP, said its leaders rescinded their offer to grant the Log Cabin Republicans a table at the convention because "in our opinion, they're not really a Republican organization. Their political agenda is different than our political agenda."

"While they call themselves loyal Republicans, they spend more time and more resources pointing out what's wrong with the party than what's right," Peaslee added. "They're attacking Republicans. We're in the business of electing Republicans. They're not loyal."

Ed Farthing, the Log Cabin organizer in North Carolina, said he had purchased a table at the party's convention on behalf of the group in April. The party accepted the money and issued a table, he said.

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http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/20/nc.logcabin/index.html

...personified by their party leader George W. Bush. I honetly hope that they aren't surprsied by this.

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There freakin freepers

...but I would welcome them if they want to switch parties.

Keep your eye on the prise. AWOL must be defeated. If it takes the LCR's, Pat Buchanan, Clark, Kay, O'Neil, Warner, Lugar, (man, the list of republicans fighting bush is really long) then so be it. - Hell, I'd even take Jesse Helms on my side it it helped defeat shrub.

Let's get a big tent. The bigger the better. I think we're gonna need one.

Takes all kinds I guess, of course the Republican Party would disagree.

of there than welcome them in.

...and I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Methinks you might be a freeper?

language. The point is the repubs are only hurting themselves, just as the democrats do by not allowing someone that considers themselves a democrat to join the party.

Also, how childish of you to call me a freeper because I disagree with you on one issue.

Especially when one is being sarcastic, humorous, or ironic.

It means "it seems to me".

Oh, and if you are wondering why the welcome wagon seems a bit chilly, it's probably because many here are a bit wary of people with under 10 posts and just signed up today crashing right out of the gate bashing the democratic party (falsely at that, I might add, considering there are a number of pro-life democrats and they are entirely welcome at our convention).

there are several pro-life Democrats that participate here. I do expect them to be consistent and be ANTI-Death penalty if they are going to claim they are pro-life..but I also expect them to consider the life of the mother. Outlawing abortion simply makes it a blackmarket service....if one is truly pro-life then they would work toward social justice to make sure basic necessities are available to the children that follow their policy,i.e. affordable housing, food, child care so their mom or dad can work if the hail from a single family home etc.

In fact, I'd venture to guess abortion would be far less likely if these basic needs were met in America.

So...are you consistent? Or do you just like to use your political power to force women to do what you want them to do?

I am pro-life and against the death penalty.
I have a daughter, so I am all about women's rights.

However, I don't equate abortion with women's rights.

I think women should have control of their bodies, that is why I believe in freakin birth control, and things of that nature.

After a child is in the womb, however, it is ALIVE! Killing it is the equivlent of Nazi's killing a Jewish person. We as a society should now allow such things to happen. If you have ever seen a video of what happens during an abortion, then you would see the parallels.

I totally agree that if it comes down to medical reasons, then the life of the mother should be saved and the child should die. Abortion as birth control is not good though.

A society should be measured on what it allows to happen to the most helpless among them. In this case it is the child.

You stated your opinion. You are entitled to your beliefs on the topic of abortion. Why would anyone need to respond to that?

"Killing it is the equivlent of Nazi's killing a Jewish person"

Yeah, right. We have rounded up all pregnant woman and put them in death camps, right?

We move them in overpacked boxcars, right?

We gas them and then burn them in ovens, right?

I think you and your 17 posts made a wrong turn, so now you can go back whence you came...

RL

A zygot does not resemble a child, nor does an embryo and neither can survive independently of the host. Only in RARE circumstances are abortions done beyond these stages and usually the issue is the health of the mother. The video's you are watching are no doubt extreme in their depictions. Please don't use the Nazi comparison, I am Jewish. There is no parellel between systematically starving grown adults for months with only a bite of bread daily, storing them in containers similar to those used for veal calves until they are skeletal remains and then sticking them in a hole and shooting them or taking them to a gas chamber and a medical procedure. None at all.

Before we can discuss this I think you need a better grasp on basic biology and embyologic development...otherwise, these baseless appeals to emotion are simply that.

I normally wouldn't do this, but you started the 'grasp of the English language' garbage.

So listen carefully, pro-life, pro-woman new guy:

You need an apostrophe at the end of "freakin". It indicates the excision of the g.

You also need to get rid of the apostrophe in Nazi's. You're going for plural, not for posession. So it's just N-a-z-i-s.

As to the points you were trying to make...why should I bother? You're not here to listen, that much is clear.

Have a nice, anti-abortion day.

Why did you pick a fight about this on your first day at DU? Back up, take a little time to get to know us, and calm down with the accusations.

And welcome to DU!

I don't think that anyone will kick you out of dem conventions either.

you put first, your daughter's or a fetus? Just curious. And what if your daughter just didn't want a fetus she was impregnated with for what you might consider a selfish reason , like school or a career , or even her looks.Would you force her to carry it?
People who are against a womens right to choice all grant the fetus preference over the rights of the mother. You cannot grant the fetus preference and be for women's rights .Sorry.

The point is the repubs are only hurting themselves, just as the democrats do by not allowing someone that considers themselves a democrat to join the party.

Sen. Nelson and (ugh) Miller I believe are anti-abortion and there's a few others in the Senate and the House

The party is just not going to change its pro choice positions to accomodate them.

It's also a violation of the rules here.

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It's a thing we do here - we stick to facts.

and the Party has never invited me to leave.

...if they're willing to put up with all of these indignities and stay Repub.

Someday, they're gonna have to buy their souls back.

teams with the republicans. They must really believe in something, or they are idiots.

Being a member of a political party that actively pushes to deny you civil rights and recognition is foolhardy regardless of what else they stand for.

It would be like Jewish people saying, "Yeah, the Nazis aren't really Jewish friendly, but they have a great economic plan, so I'll vote with them!"

But we're happy to accept your vote, if you should be so dumb as to give it to us.

delay and his ilk are rethuglicons.

"While they call themselves loyal Republicans, they spend more time and more resources pointing out what's wrong with the party than what's right," Peaslee added. "They're attacking Republicans. We're in the business of electing Republicans. They're not loyal."

They don't like taking constructive criticism, all the while screaming to the public that they're tolerant and that they realize they need to diversify their ranks. Riiiiiight.....

Guess this must be another example of that Big Tent, "party of inclusion" mentality Republicans are always talking about...

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This kind of complete identification with the 'religious' right is a sign of their weakness, IMO. They are scared and are keen to keep their 'base' locked up. The problem for them is that a lot of people who vote or have voted republican aren't impressed with the christian right.

or if used more loosely, any dumbass right winger, or 'moran'.

Republicans, dominated by the Christian coalition and other other extreme Christian right wingers, not only hate gays but actually want a Theocracy in this country. They don't want hmosexuality to be legal. Come on over, log cabin Republicans! You're welcome over here!

Ed Farthing, the Log Cabin organizer in North Carolina, said he had purchased a table at the party's convention on behalf of the group in April. The party accepted the money and issued a table, he said.

That would appear to be a contract, the acceptance of money in return for the table. Isn't this one of the things wrong with corporate America? That promises aren't kept? Where's the responsibility?

Well, I'm not complaining, the repukes don't need anyone to help them implode, they're doing fine all on their own. With Bush at the helm, the rallying cry sounds out, "all hands abandon ship!"

espoused by (South) Carolinian Lee Atwater...

Plant it right in the middle of the graveyard, right next to "Compassionate Conservatism". R.I.P.

for gay Republicans. They support a party which would deny women our reproductive rights. They support a party which trashes our environment. They support a party which supports big business over the concerns of working people. They support a party which has involved us in an invasion and an occupation which is costing us in lives and resources. All out of sympathy.

Gays are going to be drug through the mud by Bush's campaign. It's going to be one of the ugliest political campaigns in history as the GOP sacrifices gays on the altar of political expediency. The attack ads will be horrific.

I heard an interview on local radio this morning with the attorney who is the head of the log cabin republicans here. He said that he's been active in party politics since 1958. His "key" issues are small government and keeping the government out of people's lives.

In the state that elected Jesse Helms five times, is anyone really surprised?

How people who are openly gay and not self-hating can be Republican right now. If it's about fiscal conservatism and anti-affirmative action, fine, let them join the libertarian party. But why are they trying to suck up to fundies who think they will literally burn in hell?

"It's like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders" Who knows? Beats me.

but the problem is that they would not be caught dead joining the Democratic party if they have to. Sensible gay people join the Democratic party for obvious reasons, these Log Cabin Republicans put conservative ideology over their own interests 100 percent of the time.

Why? Because they can afford it.

Gay people want civil unions mostly because of the reasonable economic benefit that would come from a state-recognized partnership. These Log Cabin types are already rich and don't really need the state to subsidize or recognize their domestic situation. Sure they still have to deal with the stigma of not having loving relationships reified by the state, but to them it is only a minor annoyance.

So forgive me if I don't express any sympathies for these people as they allow themselves to be disrespected time and time again by their fellow troglodytes.

Except in this case they knew ahead of time what they were getting.

Maybe now they have been abused enough to "get help" and leave.

RL

Y'all want to consider joining the social justice crowd?

will come to realize that their humanity is more important than their wallets and just leave the party.