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oldhat (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:22 PM Original message |
The Times and Iraq (NYT "Apology") |
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KissMyAsscroft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fuck you, you revisionist fucks... |
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Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I second that emotion! |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Agreed! |
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GaryL (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Yee Haw! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. "Eat shit and die!" |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 04:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Agreed! Where is Judith Miller's pink slip? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 07:01 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Doubly agreed. I don't see the NYT firing anyone. (nt) |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Triple here. nt |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 07:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
65. If they REALLY meant what they said, they'd fire Miller and Seelye! |
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llmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Right on! |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. THEY CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
92. I third it... |
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Quick! Look over there! Still terror!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Add to your piece of evidence |
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frank frankly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. they didn't mention JUDITH MILLER by name |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. "some have focused their criticism on individual reporters" |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Damn straight! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Nope - and I for one - will not even read a story that she writes. Ever. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. To mention Judith Miller is to mention Chalabi |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 07:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
63. Judith Miller is merely a byline. |
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harper (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Blah, blah, blah |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. RIGHT ! |
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DEMVET-USMC (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. The N.Y.Times has the integrity to admit mistakes when they make them |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. As much as I love to stomp on media whores |
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Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Actually DEMVET-USMC, I believe the Corporations have given |
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DEMVET-USMC (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. I hope you are right about the corporations giving the green light to |
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Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
79. Me too! Good to meet you as well, hey do you want to use |
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KDLarsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 02:11 AM Response to Reply #79 |
90. Wouldn't it be easier to add it his sig line? |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. We have had non-denial denials, now we have... |
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xray s (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. Gee...here I thought they aspired to be the Washington Times! |
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Miss Authoritiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. We're sorry if you believed us. |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. Finally. |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. a few bad apples in the bunch huh? |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. where the hell is the apology for not |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. well, will you look at that |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
18. Boo Hoo. Too little too late. n/t |
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zydeco (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. "not as rigorous as it should have been"? |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. So are they going to have this on page 1? |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. ...damned |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Repeating #1 above because it deserves it. |
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union_maid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is a fantastic development |
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KissMyAsscroft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Yeah...start reporting on Kerry... |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Thank You for Noticing How Big This Very Well Could Be |
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Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Alice's Restaurant ..... |
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The White Tree (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 06:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
60. OOooh |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 06:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. "Excepting Alice"....... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Oh you mean like Dan Rather's apology? Yeah that meant alot. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. If Judith Miller is still on the NYT payroll this rings hollow |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm torn between tears of relief and unquencheable fury! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. What a total load of crap |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not good enough...they were accomplices in crimes against humanity |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
34. Don't apologize to us |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. AND HERE IS THE OPENING, FOLKS |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Good suggestion. |
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TryingToWarnYou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well, thanks for nothing!! |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. They link to 9 of her articles |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. This isn't about ONE reporter. The depth and bredth of the NYTime's |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. The editorial decision to run with her, pg1, is just as suspect |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
40. Here's my letter to the Times |
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baby_bear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. My opinion is that this is huge |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. right you are! This = the Pentagon Papers! |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-04 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
44. Did they get a memo from the White House saying, "OK to apologize"? |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Breaking News...Now NYTimes for Dummies has a new revised edition! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
45. It's remarkable how far down the scale of reliability the NYTimes has gone |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
49. maybe some day they will apologize for .. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:30 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. yes! OMG! |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 03:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I think We should Mass-Email then with THAT Very Theme |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
57. FIRE JUDITH MILLER!!!!! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
58. So would the NYT like to come clean |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
59. The non-apology "apology" is declined |
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dusty64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
64. They have all but |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
66. Judith Miller = Jayson Blair of the International beat |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #66 |
93. The Decline and Fall of American Journalism (Part LXV) |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
67. I'm guessing that their readership is going down-- |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
69. Golly, and it only took 800 dead soldiers . . . |
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myccrider (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. ROTFLMAO!!!!! |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Excellent letter |
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myccrider (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Thx |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
70. N.Y. Times lists problems in war coverage - MSGOP |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
71. Like when you MURDER someone and then say you're sorry? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
73. I wonder how many times they rewrote this little diatribe |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
77. Hopefully this means that this means they're going to kick some major butt |
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peterh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. The L.A. Times is publicly saying what many here feel… |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
81. Maybe, they were too busy |
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SandyUSA (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
82. Article on Judith Miller going back to 1991 and Bush Sr. |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Laurie Mylroie.... |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Agency |
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JSJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Laurie Mylroie was drunk... |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm sorry the NYT sucks so much! |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-04 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. When I read this article, "The Times and Iraq", I almost cried |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
87. the oldmedia whorehouses gotta go. |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
89. A kick with NYT contact list |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-04 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
91. The new sick world we live in. |
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