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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:46 AM
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Clinton: Kerry running smart campaign
NEW YORK (AP) -- Former President Clinton said Thursday that Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry is smart not to comment daily on every development in Iraq because "he recognizes that he's not the president."

Clinton also said his memoirs, due out weeks before this summer's Democratic National Convention, won't steal Kerry's spotlight and will only help the party.

Speaking at his office in Harlem, Clinton said he didn't think Kerry was running "too safe a campaign." Some political strategists have suggested Kerry is failing to exploit increasing skepticism about President Bush's handling of the war, as violence in Iraq escalates and more details emerge about the abuse of Iraqi prisoners.

"He's the candidate for president, he's not somebody that's supposed to give day-by-day commentary on events," Clinton said. "He's made quite clear what he believes about the major issues in the news today, and I think he's shown a certain reticence."


http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/27/clinton.kerry.ap/index.html
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:01 AM
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1. I agree with Bill
Kerry IS tough - and smart.The meat grinder(RW haters) is trying to goad him into telling them HIS plans, because frankly, they have one.Their best original thoughts are scare tactics.Listen to Bush's radio addresses on Saturdays - it's like listening to a radio broadcast from Orwell's"1984".The terr'wrists this,on 9/11 that and a they will be defeated thrown in here and there.Oh yea anyway Kerry's plan for Iraq is pretty much now becoming Bush's"new" policy;UN,NATO.Now when the haters say Kerry wants to play "kissy face"w/the UN well look who's talking.And when they ask"What's Kerry's idea?"Big Dogs'hey he isn't the president...yet,and doesn't have to comment,and shouldn't.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:07 AM
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2. If Kerry want to be president
Edited on Fri May-28-04 08:07 AM by CWebster
One would hope he would have something to say about something.

For crying out loud, if now is not the time to speak, then when is it ever?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:28 AM
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6. Kerry gives speeches practically every day w positions etc
He is criticising Bush admin everyday and offering alternatives.

It is not as if he is out in Crawford falling off a bike or clearing brush.

You will find reports of his comments and speeches on Yahoo News, or check the news section of www.johnkerry.com.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:30 AM
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9. Yep
I understand that there is no daylight to be seen 'twixt the Bush-Kerry positions.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:51 AM
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10. "Let It Be" is the same song, But Paul McCartney does it better than I do
I know you are working with a pretty broad brush, but their are lots of differences between Bush and Kerry positions.

At any rate, when JK says he will internationalize and GWB says he will internationalize, it is similar to the analogy in my header. . .GWB just can't hit the high notes.
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:15 AM
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3. Clinton has got it right
I think Clinton's comments are right on. I think that the criticism of Kerry's "safe approach" is unwarranted and is probably seeded on the right. They'd like it if he said lots of things about current events, then they could accuse him of being "inappropriate" or "flip-flopping" if the news changed.

He's been clear about his positions, and alas, it's true that he not the president right now (this to end sometime soon!). If he spoke out more, he'd be accused of interfering with a wartime administration.

I've appreciated the fact that his pronouncements of foreign affairs have been hopeful, and "big picture". He's got the correct ideas for bringing respect back to our country. Lord knows, we need it now.

And, of course, there's the old adage, "when your opponent is digging himself into a hole, don't get in his way.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:20 AM
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4. Welcome to DU -
great post cyn2.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:21 AM
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5. God forbid anyone speak about the concentration camps
in Nazi Germany. It might entail running the risk of someone spinning your words!

When has Clinton been right since Bush was perched on the throne? The time when he said we should just move away from the contrived reasons to invade Iraq, because everyone "makes mistakes". Keep in mind, his wife dutifully fell in line to support this mess- and she has her own political ambitions to consider.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:10 AM
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11. re: running for president ....
What would Clinton know? All he has done is win TWO presidential elections?

:shrug:
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:18 AM
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14. moved the party to the Right and got impeached
I'll take Gore, thank you, who had to run with Clinton's scandals on his back and still won the popular vote.

Kerry needs to listen to Gore, not Clinton. In fact, if the ticket was Gore-Dean this election would be a breeze. Bush would be history and his gang of thuggish neo-cons would be held accountable for their crimes. Gore-Dean- those are Democrats who at least stand for something, make a stand and aren't quivering in the corner when not trying to triangulate off the junta's scams.

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:36 AM
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16. re: advice on campaigns ...
you must be right.

It would be silly to listen to someone who won twice with overwhelming margins. I mean what would HE know about winning?

Re: impeachment? Surely you cannot be advocating that was a grand moment for the rule of law when the gops did that can you? Is that why you brought that up?

Rather, I think the impeachment was a victory for forces of hatred and repression but that's just me. What would I know ...
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:40 AM
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17. wasn't overwhelming margins.
and of course, supporting this criminal and illegal war is such a high moment in the cause of goodness and decency.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:45 AM
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18. your ideology is ...
interfering with your practical political judgement. You may not consider the victories overwhelming but one thing is certain: neither was close enough to steal.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 10:15 AM
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19. Both of his elections were electoral landslides
BTW, I think Clinton and Gore have good advice to offer Kerry.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 10:21 AM
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21. Gore would be the nominee if he had chosen to run
but he opted out. That was his decision.
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Ann Arbor Dem Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:28 AM
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7. I agree...great post, Cyn2!
It's about timing...Kerry won't disappoint us. I think when the convention comes around he will come out swinging.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:12 AM
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12. Welcome. Ann Richards said the same thing a week ago.
Edited on Fri May-28-04 09:13 AM by efhmc
When bad things are going down, let your opponent have space to do them.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:07 PM
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26. But i still think Clinton should wait to release his book. Why give the
right wing more fodder? This will just energize the RW base whereas, if they didn't have Clinton's book to target, a lot of them would just sit out this next election because they are pissed at Bush. I hope Clinton changes his mind.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:40 PM
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27. Hi cyn2!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:45 PM
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28. If Kerry refuses to say anything because...
he's afraid it might hurt him politically, then there will be little opposition to Bush's destructive policies and, because the refusal to speak out and argue against him, he will win the election.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 08:29 AM
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8. Yep. Just ask Howard Dean et al.
He's a tough opponent.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:16 AM
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13. Give Chimpy enough rope, and he'll hang himself.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:20 AM
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15. Wouldn't you think
He had enough rope by now?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 10:17 AM
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20. That's why he's floundering
with approvsl ratings in the low-to-mid-40s. And I suspect he hasn't hit rock bottom.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 10:27 AM
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22. Of course Kerry isn't doing much better than
running neck in neck.

It is as if Kerry presents himself on the same wavelength as Bush, but more capable. It is NOT as if he challenges Bush on much.

Is our media really so yellow that any murmur of the truth will be the political death knell, causing uncharismatic politicians to play it safe by being yellow-bellied?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 10:53 AM
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23. I agree with Clinton.
I took the time to watch all of Kerry's ads on his website yesterday. I don't watch broadcast t.v., and very little cable.. so I have yet to see any political ads. I was really impressed with the message and style of Kerry's ads... I was a Howard Dean loyalist, who supports Kerry now that he's our nominee. I feel so much better about that, after seeing the ads. I do wish he'd address the issues of small business owners specifically and strongly... that is a group of people who often have a more liberal social leaning, but vote Republican because they believe that the GOP is more friendly to the small business owner.

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GreatScott Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:00 AM
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24. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but,
I don't think anything counts until after Labor Day.

The people who follow the news now are the ones that have already decided who they're going to vote for.

The swing voters don't pay any attention to all this stuff. Of course, that's good and bad.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:07 PM
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25. Yes, No doubt Kerry will "Liven Up" in Aug Sep Oct
Quite frankly it is hard to compete with the "Bush Show" right now.
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