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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:39 AM
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PENTAGON “UNAWARE” OF SADDAM HANDOVER
PENTAGON “UNAWARE” OF SADDAM HANDOVER
15.6.2004. 18:36:33

Interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi announced that former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein would be handed over to local authorities within two weeks.

But the Pentagon says it is not aware of any immediate plans for Saddam and thousands of other Iraqi detainees, to be transferred from US custody to Iraq.

more: http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=87297®ion=6


Have to admit I am not familiar with the news source...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:47 AM
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1. Not so sure about this
since I am unfamiliar with the source... after I posted this I scoured the Saddam release in two weeks stories - and I didn't pick up on this theme (that the Pentagon was unaware). Appologies for prematurely starting the thread. I have asked the mods to lock the thread.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:48 AM
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2. SBS...
is a free to air foreign station here in Australia, and as a source they are reliable.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:59 AM
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6. OK, I gotta mention this.
A "Lesbian Militia" with kitchen impliments in their symbol? Ummmmmmmmm, ok.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:43 AM
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9. Oh please!
It is actually sarcasm!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:52 AM
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11. Ah!
Sarcasm. We don't do that here anymore. I was that last practitioner and I got tired of the funny looks so I quit about 6 weeks ago.
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serf Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:58 AM
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14. good answer
I'd rather be here with you than with the finest people in the world.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:07 PM
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20. Hi serf!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:31 AM
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17. Oh
You have not begin to see the implements!
Lesbians are scary, huh? Women that have no need for men make you shake in your empty shorts, huh?
You are so expendable...believe that!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:49 AM
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19. Awwwwwwwww, that was so cute.
Now come and give unkie Dark a big kiss.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:55 AM
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3. AP release
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:58 AM
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5. Fools! They're all assuming * gives a shit about international law
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 06:56 AM
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4. hmmmm....
although I don't have any familiarity with the news source either, the story is interesting.

"Yes, Saddam and the others will be handed over to the Iraqi government, and their trial will begin as soon as possible, God willing," he said.

The head of Iraq's special tribunal on war crimes, Salem Chalabi, said the country will soon have a detention centre ready to hold Saddam and his former henchmen.

He said arrest warrants would be required before the former leader was transferred to Iraqi authorities.


Salem Chalabi is Ahmed Chalabi's nephew, right?

International law states that as soon as the occupier transfers "authority" it has to give up its "prisoners", right?

So, if I'm following the laws and logic here, we are transferring "authority" to a quasi-sovereign (sort of like quasi-pregnant) government and our troops are there at the "invitation" of that entity, but we are no longer "occupiers" and must get out of the POW (or detainee) business and relinquish all prisoners, but our Pentagon (sort of in charge of the military operation) doesn't understand international law well enough to figure this out.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:08 AM
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8. Guess the headline should simply read "Pentagon Unaware" - sheesh!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:47 AM
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10. That's the truth!
Rumsferatu's right hand doesn't even know what IT is doing, much less the left hand...

A huge cluster-fuck, our Government. Do you suppose there is an agency that still has Big Dog's picture on the wall? or Nixon's?
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:02 AM
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7. Heard it on the CBC broadcast this morning too
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 07:04 AM by sybylla
I'm sure it will start to appear in more mainstream news outlets soon.

So is the Pentagon hell-bent on breaking international law, or is Iraq's fledgling government three steps ahead of our well established democracy all the time?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:54 AM
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12. BBC news this morning
reported that, The Iraqi Interim Gov has said that they will be in charge of Saddam and other prisoners. The report quoted a U.S. official as saying that, some of the prisoners would remain under their control.

I have the feeling that a fight is brewing over who will be running
the jails, courts, and who gets the "high profile" cases.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:51 AM
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13. what a caotic mess!
why did we invade Iraq again? The reasons and excuses keep changing...:eyes: This is the most incompetent group. They don't know what the hell is going on from one day to the next...:eyes:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:22 AM
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15. we cannot turn them over to a regime
thay may employ torture and other methods to 'interrogate' them, or guarantee them a fair trial.

oh, fuck, I can't even say that with a straight face any more. thank you george bush.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:11 AM
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16. BBC: US ducks Saddam trial timetable
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM by muriel_volestrangler
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3809391.stm

The US has avoided committing itself to a timetable to hand over ex-President Saddam Hussein to Iraqi authorities.
A White House spokesman insisted that Saddam Hussein would face Iraqi justice "at the appropriate time" but refused to be drawn into setting a date.

Also:

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040615/API/406150671

But Bush declined to be pinned down on timing.

"I want to make sure that when sovereignty is transferred, Saddam Hussein stays in jail," Bush said.

"We're over there for a reason," he added, noting that the U.S. military would continue to provide security for Iraq for the time being.

Bush said that the "appropriate time for the transfer of Saddam Hussein" was one of several remaining major issues that the United States is working on with the new Iraqi interim government.


And apparently Dan Senor has said the Americans will keep him 'until the end of hostilities'. Which apparently doesn't mean June 30th. ie it means until the November election.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:47 AM
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18. The Pentagon is not aware of much lately. I think that this should
be there motto and Rummy Rule of Law.
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